Heh, Xaymaca! Nice to hear from you.
On 3/19/06, Vincent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Dakota Jack wrote:
> > Here is a JSF big gun. At least now we know what this surprising new
> > committer who seems to know nothing about Struts does; he re
I have expressed my "technical concerns" more than once. I have even had
Craig agree with them, in a sense. JSF is built for those who are
technically challenged and for tools. I don't think even Craig thinks that
JSF is superior as a product for advanced webwork. Who knows anymore,
however. L
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Dakota Jack wrote:
Here is a JSF big gun. At least now we know what this surprising new
committer who seems to know nothing about Struts does; he reads
motivational books.
On 3/19/06, Gary VanMatre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: "Alexandre Poitras"
yeah I am using LenyaCMS for a major client but it's totally based on xsl, xsp,
java, ant
CMS produces static html pages that are picked up by several struts application.
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Actually, it's been my understanding that struts is pretty much
a BYOM (Bring Your Own Model) kind of framework. Tutorials that show
workable ways of abstracting out persistence to DAOs and such
are always welcome to me. Like Ricks struts-spring-ibatis tutorial:
http://www.learntechnology.net/stru
Do current automated builds of Shale Mailreader represent its finished
or near-finished state, or it is still work in progress?
Michael.
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Welcome Jonathan! Better late than never :)
Jonathan Revusky wrote:
I think here we have to agree to disagree. I see there being a
responsibility involved that you don't. It isn't like anyone can just
come along and contribute, contrary to what we might want people to
believe, because there
I cannot find the place to download Clay.
Does Clay exist inside Shale already?
In the first few lines of documentation, it says Clay is similar to Tapestry
and Facelets. If there are available products to use, does Clay closely
clung to Shale or Struts?
On 3/20/06, Alexandre Poitras <[EMAIL PRO
I will let Gary or Craig answer this one but if you use Shale, Clay is
your answer.
On 3/19/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As I find JSF has h:subview or other h: component,
> can I use JSF component only such that I can do without Tiles?
> If yes, should it be h:subview or oth
What? You want me to discuss what I don't like in Tapestry or what I
prefer in JSF? I have no real concerns about Tapestry, I just prefer
the way some things are done in JSF. But I wouldn't be afraid of using
Tapestry either, it is indeed a good framework. You are the one always
bashing JSF, so exp
As I find JSF has h:subview or other h: component,
can I use JSF component only such that I can do without Tiles?
If yes, should it be h:subview or other component?
Thanks
perhaps this thread is now "has struts reached the obfuscation"
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>> I think that any project has to have some coherent message ...
>> to have such an incoherent message due to this Action/Shale
>> bifurcation seems very negative. It just seems complicated and
>> confused.
Jonathan, I whole heartedly agree. I do not know who came up with the idea
that "Struts"
Jonathan Revusky wrote:
> ... person who visits your website and starts looking at the
> mail archive and so on has to be able to figure out quite quickly "WTF
> is struts" and to have such an incoherent message due to this
> Action/Shale bifurcation seems very negative. It just seems
> complicat
Frank W. Zammetti wrote:
Ted Husted wrote:
On 3/14/06, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
but I to this day do not believe it was the motivation of the larger
entities involved.
True. If those "larger entities" had any say, we wouldn't be merging
with WebWork. If anyone wanted p
You know, Gary, when you are advocating what has already been done
well, Tapestry, under a new name, JSF, claiming to be the leading edge
is not liable to lead to confidence in how you are finding your
cheese. This is especially so when you have to try to sell the work
by trying to wrangle the bra
On 3/19/06, Mark Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 3/19/06, Dakota Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Frequently we find developers coding away to make something in Struts fit
> > what they need on the job rather than what Struts needs.
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> Isn't that the point? So what does struts need acco
Here is a JSF big gun. At least now we know what this surprising new
committer who seems to know nothing about Struts does; he reads
motivational books.
On 3/19/06, Gary VanMatre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >From: "Alexandre Poitras" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > You keep saying Tapesty "does what
Well, since this is your preferred mode, lead the way. I will follow.
I felt that this was pretty safe, but if you have some contrary
opinions, please roll them out and I will be more than happy to
address your concerns. If you don't have anything specific, then I am
not interested.
On 3/19/06,
Sounds like Gurpreet.S.Dhanoa is decribing the same shotgun apporach
that I was saying I used (making local copies of referenced files),
which I've always been sure was suboptimal but it got me out of trouble.
(ie: it "works")
I'll try to take in the comments given of how to fix it optimally for
ne
On 3/19/06, Dakota Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I really do see these fallacies coming up at all. The fallacies which
> typically come up are ones like: (1) argument ad hominem; (2) appeal to
> authority; (3) appeal to common practice; (4) appeal to emotion; (5) appeal
> to flattery; (6) appl
Hey that's look like a very good book Gary. I was looking for
something new to read so maybe I'll give it a try. Thank :)
On 3/19/06, Gary VanMatre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >From: "Alexandre Poitras" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > You keep saying Tapesty "does what JSF wants to do better than JSF
>From: "Alexandre Poitras" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> You keep saying Tapesty "does what JSF wants to do better than JSF
> does it". I have looked into the two from a technical point of view
> and I prefered JSF. How about giving some technical arguments for once
> since you are complaing about lo
http://www.wilsonresearch.com/2006/ostgawards06/ostgawards4.php
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You keep saying Tapesty "does what JSF wants to do better than JSF
does it". I have looked into the two from a technical point of view
and I prefered JSF. How about giving some technical arguments for once
since you are complaing about logic fallacies? Is it because it isn't
a standard?
On 3/19/06
Since this is Friday: How about a little Monty Python
*Receptionist:* Yes, sir?
*Man:* I'd like to have an argument please.
*Receptionist:* Certainly, sir, have you been here before...?
*Man:* No, this is my first time.
*Receptionist:* I see. Do you want to have the full argument, or were you
I really do see these fallacies coming up at all. The fallacies which
typically come up are ones like: (1) argument ad hominem; (2) appeal to
authority; (3) appeal to common practice; (4) appeal to emotion; (5) appeal
to flattery; (6) appleal to popularity; (7) appeal to riducle; (8) biased
sample
On 3/19/06, Dakota Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Indeed! Hoo hah! Has anyone asked why Tapestry, which is just JSF done
> well in my opinion, is causing no difficulties on the Struts list?
Diveristy is important, even those who don't agree with a darwinian
model seem to agree with this. Tryi
http://sourceforge.net/projects/infonoia
.V
On 3/18/06, Shshank Jain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hii,
Are there any Content management systems (CMS) which can be easily
integrated into Struts based systems ?
Presently trying to get things working with lenya.
-Shanky
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