Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-15 Thread Michael Jouravlev
URLs are universal, while JSR-168 manages portlets through central controller (speaking of Front Controller and MVC) and specialized API. A very intrusive approach if you ask me. But this is offtopic for this thread ;) On 3/15/06, Leon Rosenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Speaking of JSF, > is t

Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-15 Thread Leon Rosenberg
Speaking of JSF, is there somewhere a Filter or n extension allowing you to use JSF/Shale/MyFaces without having a single url and send everything over POST? Until there is one, I don't see how you can use JSF in portals, but if there is one, I'd love to try it out :-) regards Leon ---

Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-15 Thread Leon Rosenberg
same here, jobpilot (germans monster.com): java 1538 java struts 120 java jsf 18 On 3/16/06, Hey Nony Moose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey Nony Moose wrote: > > >... Keyword = jsf ... 21 jobs > >... Keyword = struts ... 126 jobs > >source: http://www.jobnet.com.au click "Job Search" and try th

Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-15 Thread Dakota Jack
These figures match what I see. I see no traction at all. If there is some, it is not surfacing where I move and live. On 3/15/06, Hey Nony Moose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hey Nony Moose wrote: > > >... Keyword = jsf ... 21 jobs > >... Keyword = struts ... 126 jobs > >source: http://www.job

Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-15 Thread Dakota Jack
On 3/15/06, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If you believe that, nothing I can do will persuade you otherwise. I'll > just leave you with my personal belief ... MyFaces is very close to > knocking > off Struts as the second most popular Java-focused Apache project (after > Tomca

RE: Struts Action returning null - Design query?

2006-03-15 Thread Saurabh Bobde
Thanks a lot, for all the responses. That helps! Saurabh Bobde ~~~ "DISCLAIMER: The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, any further disclosure or use, dissem

Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-15 Thread Dakota Jack
Hmmm? Isn't it the case that many were brought here just for Shale? That does not seem to square with this prayer business. The reason people keep asking is not because they are stupid but because something does not seem right with the answers. I mean, really, how did some of these new committe

Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-15 Thread Dakota Jack
I don't think JSF is polarizing. I think that the way it has been pushed into areas it does not belong is polarizing. There is absolutely nothing wrong with JSF, in my opinion, but there is something wrong with the way its advocates have strong-armed and misled people. That's what I have dislike

Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-15 Thread Dakota Jack
Who was "bemoaning"? On 3/15/06, Greg Reddin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mar 14, 2006, at 10:25 PM, Frank W. Zammetti wrote: > > > JSF is a way for a lot of people to make money. Many vendors have > > a stake in its "commercial" success or failure. This has been true > > from the beginni

Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-15 Thread Dakota Jack
The problem is that Struts has been neglected and is no longer a viable option for the future. Much of this, in my opinion, is due to splitting the "afficienadoes" with JSF's attempt to get the branding. I don't think that the merger is going to do it. I cannot see how Struts is going to be able

RE: query about application resource and charset

2006-03-15 Thread Roy, Ansuman
Thanks Antonio, that solved the problem. I used java.util.Properties so now the special characters are not coming by the way, what if I try to put russian characters or use non ascii characters in my keys?? would it be converted to ascii and what would be the display like for example the Pound

Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-15 Thread netsql
So I got to talk to a few start ups in SV. Here is my guess of market share of new projects in '07. If you disagree, I will give you a refund. 1.C# is big ( Maverick.net I hope. I am surprised how many companies are converting this quick) 35% 2.Ajax is big (client side, not emitted from server

Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-15 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Wow, if your going to reference that, can we at least get a formatted copy? :) Ted Husted wrote: On 3/15/06, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That little disagreement ended with a bloody war, as we all know. We've already had our wars at Apache, and they resulted in the Rules for

Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-15 Thread Hey Nony Moose
Hey Nony Moose wrote: >... Keyword = jsf ... 21 jobs >... Keyword = struts ... 126 jobs >source: http://www.jobnet.com.au click "Job Search" and try the keywords > and by the way ... ... skill = j2ee ... 559 jobs ... skill = ejb ... 94 jobs ... skill = .net ... 835 jobs ... skill = cobol ... 58 j

Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-15 Thread Hey Nony Moose
Craig McClanahan wrote: >I see job postings that used to be 80/20 "struts and everything else" start >to be 30/30/20 "struts/JSF/everything else". > try 60/10/x maybe people in first world countries have a different mix ... I just searched Jobnet ... a big IT job board down on the other side of th

Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-15 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 3/15/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/15/06, Michael Jouravlev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > can you help with the link to Shale Mailreader, could not find it. > > Nightly builds: > * http://cvs.apache.org/builds/struts/nightly/struts-shale/ > > Maven reports (Javadoc and so

Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-15 Thread Wendy Smoak
On 3/15/06, Michael Jouravlev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > can you help with the link to Shale Mailreader, could not find it. Nightly builds: * http://cvs.apache.org/builds/struts/nightly/struts-shale/ Maven reports (Javadoc and source xref, etc): * http://struts.apache.org/struts-shale/shale-

Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-15 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 3/15/06, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I see more books about JSF that were published in the three *months* after > 1.0 went final than in the three *years* after Struts 1.0 went final (and > that takes some doing -- Struts got a *huge* amount of coverage). Most Struts books par

Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-15 Thread Ted Husted
On 3/15/06, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That little disagreement ended with a bloody war, as we all know. We've already had our wars at Apache, and they resulted in the Rules for Revolutionaires. * http://incubator.apache.org/learn/rules-for-revolutionaries.html >From our pers

Re: Struts Calendar Component

2006-03-15 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
It's not Struts-specific, but there is a calendar widget in the Java Web Parts UIWidgets taglib: http://javawebparts.sourceforge.net More specifically: http://javawebparts.sourceforge.net/javadocs/javawebparts/taglib/uiwidgets/CalendarTag.html There's plenty of calendar widgets out there, th

Struts Calendar Component

2006-03-15 Thread bib_lucene bib
Hi All Can you please recommend a calendar component for my struts based webapp. The one which can be displayed next to a date text box, selecting date in the calendar will show in text box. Thanks for help. bib/- - Yahoo! Mail B

Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-15 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Craig McClanahan wrote: On 3/15/06, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Growing like wildfire? Hmm... well, I'm certainly not intimately familiar with that community, so I can't argue that point. If you believe that, nothing I can do will persuade you otherwise. If I believe wha

Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-15 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 3/15/06, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Growing like wildfire? Hmm... well, I'm certainly not intimately > familiar with that community, so I can't argue that point. If you believe that, nothing I can do will persuade you otherwise. I'll just leave you with my personal beli

Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-15 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Ted Husted wrote: But, right now, I don't know who's crazier. The committers who make these decisions or the people who keep insisting on asking the same question again and again, just so we can give the same answer again and again. It's sad that some people don't like the answer, but asking aga

Re: Extending PropertyMessageResources

2006-03-15 Thread James Mitchell
Extend the factory as well, and specify that in the struts-config.xml -- James Mitchell EdgeTech, Inc. http://edgetechservices.net/ 678.910.8017 Skype: jmitchtx On Mar 15, 2006, at 1:41 PM, Mulligan, Scott H wrote: I need to customize the order in which resource bundles are read for messag

Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-15 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 3/15/06, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/15/06, Michael Jouravlev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So why again MyFaces is not under Struts umbrella while Shale is? > > It's sad that some people don't like the answer, but asking again is > not going to change anything. As the maxim go

Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-15 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Craig McClanahan wrote: Please try these opinions out on the MyFaces crowd :-). Like I said in another post, there are certainly those that believe that JSF is, to steal DJ's quote, the cat's meow. The MyFaces crowd would clearly fall in that category :) > In case you didn't know, that i

Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-15 Thread Ted Husted
On 3/15/06, Michael Jouravlev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So why again MyFaces is not under Struts umbrella while Shale is? Because, as it stands, the *people* who want to create Shale are already here, and this is where they would like to do the work. At some point in time, the individuals who

Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-15 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 3/15/06, Michael Jouravlev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 3/15/06, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 3/14/06, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Dakota Jack wrote: > > > > For my part, I have to disagree with Frank. JSF has been around > forever > > > a

Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-15 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 3/15/06, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/14/06, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Dakota Jack wrote: > > > For my part, I have to disagree with Frank. JSF has been around forever > > and > > > has no discernable traction. Perhaps that is the reason Craig i

Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-15 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 3/14/06, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dakota Jack wrote: > > For my part, I have to disagree with Frank. JSF has been around forever > and > > has no discernable traction. Perhaps that is the reason Craig is a > little > > testy nowadays. I don't know about that. > > I don

Extending PropertyMessageResources

2006-03-15 Thread Mulligan, Scott H
I need to customize the order in which resource bundles are read for messages. Specifically, I have default bundles for groups to which a country belongs. First I search the bundle for the language/country (fr_FR). If I can't find the property, I want to search the group resource bundles to whic

Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-15 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
On Wed, March 15, 2006 12:49 pm, Nick Heudecker said: > Then again, I'm probably the easiest guy to sell a car too... be straight > >> with me from the start, and even if your story (read; price) isn't as >> good >> as the salesman who isn't as straight, you probably made the sale :) >> >> > > I've

Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-15 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
On Wed, March 15, 2006 12:48 pm, Greg Reddin said: > I think it's largely because the JCP moved into a space that was > already well-populated and people tend to be very skeptical of > governing bodies. -snip- > Developers seem to have the most difficult time with the "not created > here" syndrome.

RE:MessageResources from Plugin or RequestProcessor

2006-03-15 Thread Joe Hertz
I should say... A roadblock short of reimplementing the code in the protected method Action.getResources() elsewhere. No cleaner way? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-15 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 3/15/06, Greg Reddin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Developers seem to have the most difficult time with the "not created > here" syndrome. It often not just a syndrome. When you feel that you have it, "the solution" right in your hands, you are all itching and want to share with others. "See, is

MessageResources from Plugin or RequestProcessor

2006-03-15 Thread Joe Hertz
How do I get to a MessageResource bundle like I would with Action.getResources() from the inside of my RequestProcessor or Plugin implementation? I assume from the moduleConfig, but I keep hitting dead ends in the API javadocs. TIA ---

Re: Passing value from one form to another

2006-03-15 Thread Jari Fredriksson
Yariel Ramos Moreno wrote: Hi: I have a form with a text area (input) and whe I submit it, I need to show this value in the input field of another form. How can I do this?? One solution is to use common form bean for both forms, and keeping that in session scope maybe. I'm pretty new to st

Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-15 Thread Nick Heudecker
Then again, I'm probably the easiest guy to sell a car too... be straight > with me from the start, and even if your story (read; price) isn't as good > as the salesman who isn't as straight, you probably made the sale :) > > I've got a loads of stuff to sell you. I don't know how well it works,

Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-15 Thread Greg Reddin
On Mar 15, 2006, at 11:26 AM, Frank W. Zammetti wrote: Isn't it interesting how polarizing JSF seems to be? I don't know about you, but I talk to more people with a strong opinion either way than most other technologies. The only other one I can think of in the same vein is EJBs. Seems

Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-15 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
On Wed, March 15, 2006 12:13 pm, Greg Reddin said: > > On Mar 15, 2006, at 10:13 AM, Frank W. Zammetti wrote: > >> I value honesty and openness above all else, and when I >> feel like those ideals are not being met completely, even if >> relatively >> beningnly as is the case in sales generally, it

Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-15 Thread Greg Reddin
On Mar 15, 2006, at 10:13 AM, Frank W. Zammetti wrote: I value honesty and openness above all else, and when I feel like those ideals are not being met completely, even if relatively beningnly as is the case in sales generally, it bugs me a bit. Hmm, interesting. I value honesty and openn

Re: Multiple buttons with Dispatch Action

2006-03-15 Thread Ahmed Hashim
I think it will be better to change one of the buttons. Anyway, Thank too much for your help. On 3/15/06, Dave Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Niall Pemberton wrote: > > LOL, maybe we can work together on a LazyRandomDispatchAction > > implementation? > > > > Ah, that would be better; it w

Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-15 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
On Wed, March 15, 2006 10:40 am, Greg Reddin said: > I find it ironic that people are bemoaning JSF for its commercial > interests. To be clear, *I* have not bemoaned the commercial interests. In fact, I said at least twice in this very thread that I have no problem with it. What I do bemoan, an

Re: Multiple buttons with Dispatch Action

2006-03-15 Thread Dave Newton
Niall Pemberton wrote: > LOL, maybe we can work together on a LazyRandomDispatchAction > implementation? > Ah, that would be better; it would save having to write the methods until they're called. "Gah; I'm getting a page from the website. I have to write an action method--hang on." Dave -

Re: Multiple buttons with Dispatch Action

2006-03-15 Thread Niall Pemberton
LOL, maybe we can work together on a LazyRandomDispatchAction implementation? Niall - Original Message - From: "Dave Newton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 4:00 PM > > Use my implementation of RandomDispatchAction, which will run a > pseudo-random method matching a

Re: Multiple buttons with Dispatch Action

2006-03-15 Thread Dave Newton
Wendy Smoak wrote: > No. LDA does a reverse lookup from the property value to the key (and > then from the key to the method name.) If there are two identical > values in your .properties file, how would it know which key to pick? > Use my implementation of RandomDispatchAction, which will ru

Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-15 Thread Niall Pemberton
Paul, A word of caution, don't put in too much effort unless you can get a committers interest. Franks right in this respect and it can be v.frustrating. In my points about "donating back" I was thinking more that if businesses had given more back over the years then we would already have a group

Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-15 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
On Wed, March 15, 2006 3:21 am, Niall Pemberton said: > The > thing I find really dishonest though, is I thought I would have to pay for > java studio creator and now I find its free. This is just completely out > of > order and I feel let down and mis-lead. Same goes for ADF faces and > JDeveloper

Re: xslt

2006-03-15 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
I don't know if AJAX is in your plans, but AjaxTags in Java Web Parts offers an XSLT response handler to do client-side transformations... http://javawebparts.sourceforge.net This handler uses Sarissa under the covers, so even if you wind up not using the tags, they may serve as an example of usi

Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-15 Thread Greg Reddin
On Mar 14, 2006, at 10:25 PM, Frank W. Zammetti wrote: JSF is a way for a lot of people to make money. Many vendors have a stake in its "commercial" success or failure. This has been true from the beginning. Some would say the whole point of JSF from the start was to make money for one

xslt

2006-03-15 Thread Morten Andersen
I've developed a struts based application that uses XSLT intensively on the server side. I would like to move some of these transformations to the client side. I use struts 1.1 I tryed incorporating stxx, but this limits the use of RequestProcessor that I use in the application. I know of the

Re: Multiple buttons with Dispatch Action

2006-03-15 Thread Wendy Smoak
On 3/15/06, Ahmed Hashim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can I solve the problem of 2 buttons with the same name using > LookupDispatchAction ? No. LDA does a reverse lookup from the property value to the key (and then from the key to the method name.) If there are two identical values in your .pr

Parsing error processing resource path /WEB-INF/struts-config.xml java.io.FileNotFoundException in ActionServlet init

2006-03-15 Thread Friso van Vollenhoven
Hi, Upon deploying my application on JBoss 4.0.2 I get this error: 16:11:34,122 ERROR [ActionServlet] Parsing error processing resource path /WEB-INF/struts-config.xml java.io.FileNotFoundException at org.apache.naming.resources.DirContextURLConnection.getInputStream(DirContex tURLConnecti

help logic:equals

2006-03-15 Thread Alberto Marquÿffffe9s
Y problem is the following one I want to cross 2 lists using logic:iterate these 2 lists are of objectos VO. These 2 objectos NovedadesVO and TemasVO have in common a property (subject) when it is the same chain in both I want to print a message I have used logic:equal but it does not work. The exa

url after validation

2006-03-15 Thread Karel Honzl
Hi, I'm using validation on action form. I have action for displayng input form named /insert and other action for form submission named /insertsubmit . But when form don't pass validation url in browser is changed to /insertsubmit.do, but I want to have there /insert.do. Is it possible to do it?

Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-15 Thread Niall Pemberton
I don't think they're"junk" - although I don't particularly like LDA. I think disptach actions are an alternative "flavour" and its down to people to select what they prefer. Probably docs explaining the different implementations, how they work and their strengths/weaknesses would be a good idea th

Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-15 Thread Paul Benedict
Niall wrote: >> Its all those businesses that have taken and >> given nothing back - the silent majority. I am tired debating the philosophy of Struts; it doesn't produce any results. :) After reading Niall's elegant answer, I believe the best way of making my voice heard is through contributi

Upgrade problem to Tomcat 5.5.16, login with Realm fails

2006-03-15 Thread Joacim Turesson
Hi! I'm currently running my webapplication using Tomcat 5.5.12 and it works great. When I upgrade to Tomcat 5.5.16 I no longer able to login in to the webapplication using Form based login with Memory Realm (in my development area). The webapplication is written in struts and all resources

Re: query about application resource and charset

2006-03-15 Thread Antonio Petrelli
Roy, Ansuman ha scritto: I parse through the xml and using io i write it into a .properties file I think instead of java io i should use java.util's property class is it?? Yes, java.util.Properties. ".properties" files must be ASCII 7-bit, the "Properties" class takes all the burden of encod

Re: [OT] Jasper Reports

2006-03-15 Thread netsql
Did you want to send an email to him or did you want to post in Jasper Reports forms to see if someone can help you. .V Nandakishore Nekkanti wrote: HI Teodor Danciu I am facing a problem while using Jasper Reports. I am using JRxlsExporter to export to Excel fromat.I want to export the repor

RE: query about application resource and charset

2006-03-15 Thread Roy, Ansuman
using key value pairs. Basically the xml file has hello.name Roy I parse through the xml and using io i write it into a .properties file I think instead of java io i should use java.util's property class is it?? regards, Anshuman -Original Message- From: Antonio Petre

[OT] Jasper Reports

2006-03-15 Thread Nandakishore Nekkanti
HI Teodor Danciu I am facing a problem while using Jasper Reports. I am using JRxlsExporter to export to Excel fromat.I want to export the report to a file and i want all the data to be appended to the same file.Why i am forcing to do like this is , If my report contains records more than 2 la

Re: query about application resource and charset

2006-03-15 Thread Antonio Petrelli
Roy, Ansuman ha scritto: But the struts application uses bean tags every where so I have to generate the property file How do you generate this file then? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands,

RE: query about application resource and charset

2006-03-15 Thread Roy, Ansuman
Thanks a lot for the info. But the way I go about is html file xslt--> xml file --java code --> . properties file But the struts application uses bean tags every where so I have to generate the property file any further suggestion, regards, Anshuman -Original Message- From: Antoni

Re: query about application resource and charset

2006-03-15 Thread Antonio Petrelli
Roy, Ansuman ha scritto: Hi, I have a content management system that generates the application resources.properties file. Now the value of many keys are found to be of filled with  keys. File .properties MUST have escape codes for special characters (i.e. \u codes). This is the default beh

Re: Map backed actionForm and pushing multiselect value in the map

2006-03-15 Thread vijay venkataraman
Can someone take time to answer this question. Thanks, Vijay vijay venkataraman wrote: |Hi, Sorry if you receive this twice. I didn't see this mail for more than 4 hours after sending it. I have a Form bean backed by a Map. I want to capture the responses of the input fields in the jsp in t

Re: Multiple buttons with Dispatch Action

2006-03-15 Thread Ahmed Hashim
I'll solve the execute calling. the problem is the class EventActionDispatcher comes with struts 1.2.9 I am using 1.2.8 Can I solve the problem of 2 buttons with the same name using LookupDispatchAction ? On 3/15/06, Michael Jouravlev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 3/15/06, Ahmed Hashim <[E

Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-15 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 3/15/06, Niall Pemberton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Frank W. Zammetti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 7:37 AM > > > I will say though, and I have said in the past, that accepting some of > > the new ideas that come around every now a

Re: Multiple buttons with Dispatch Action

2006-03-15 Thread Michael Jouravlev
On 3/15/06, Ahmed Hashim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd like to ask about the LookupDispatchAction > If my action extends from LookupDispatchAction, can I use the execute method > In case the user request the Action Directly? not from clicking a button? execute() is always called first. > I wan

Re: Multiple buttons with Dispatch Action

2006-03-15 Thread Ahmed Hashim
I'd like to ask about the LookupDispatchAction If my action extends from LookupDispatchAction, can I use the execute method In case the user request the Action Directly? not from clicking a button? I want the action to do the following: 1- Load the page 2- When the user click on button X it will e

Re: has struts reached the saturation

2006-03-15 Thread Niall Pemberton
- Original Message - From: "Frank W. Zammetti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 7:37 AM > I will say though, and I have said in the past, that accepting some of > the new ideas that come around every now and again, even if you don't > buy into them 100%, might help Stru