Re: Struts Web Service project on SF.net

2005-01-22 Thread Craig McClanahan
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:48:13 -0500, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > More importantly though, where I think it differs in a material way, is > the fact that my solution gives you the ability to expose services but > still use all the resources of your container, your application and

Re: upgrading from 1.1 to 1.2.6 -- any guides?

2005-01-22 Thread James Mitchell
What steps did you take? Did you recompile your application with the new jars? Did you update the .tlds? .dtds? -- James Mitchell Software Engineer / Open Source Evangelist EdgeTech, Inc. 678.910.8017 AIM: jmitchtx - Original Message - From: "Dakota Jack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts

Re: upgrading from 1.1 to 1.2.6 -- any guides?

2005-01-22 Thread Dakota Jack
None, which is the biggest problem. I usually start Tomcat as a service and in this case the service bombs without logging what when wrong. Tomcat is not the problem. It logs fine with Struts 1.1. Perhaps I made a mistake with how I set things up. If you don't have anything specific for Struts

Re: upgrading from 1.1 to 1.2.6 -- any guides?

2005-01-22 Thread James Mitchell
What is the problem? What errors are you seeing? -- James Mitchell Software Engineer / Open Source Evangelist EdgeTech, Inc. 678.910.8017 AIM: jmitchtx - Original Message - From: "Dakota Jack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 1:18 AM Subj

upgrading from 1.1 to 1.2.6 -- any guides?

2005-01-22 Thread Dakota Jack
Are there any guides for upgrading from 1.1 to 1.2.6? I did what should be obvious and had no success. Jack -- -- "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its back." ~Dakota Jack~ "You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep." ~N

[OT] Re: Struts Web Service project on SF.net

2005-01-22 Thread Dakota Jack
Don't worry about reinventing the wheel, Frank. Even little kids do that. Inventing the wheel is nothing. The real difficulty was the axel, bearings, etc. ;-) Jack -- -- "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its back." ~Dakota Jack~ "Yo

Re: [OT] Re: constants interface

2005-01-22 Thread Dakota Jack
Yah, you're right. But what gets me going is not code issues. I could care less about disagreements about that. I should ignore things like " No, as usual, you miss my point. ", but I just cannot get used to that sort of thing, it seems. I'll try harder to ignore them. I am sure my getting tic

Re: How to get a dynamic property attribute

2005-01-22 Thread Dakota Jack
Thanks, Wendy. Much appreciated. I hadn't really checked LazyActionForm out, because I am using 1.1. Now, I guess, I have to see what is required to step up to 1.2.6. Jack On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 20:18:54 -0700, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: "Dakota Jack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >

RE: OT constants interface

2005-01-22 Thread e-denton Java Programmer
What makes this sort of interface acceptable? package java.io; public interface Serializable { } Instead of, maybe... public interface Serializable { public final boolean isSerializable { return true; } } -Original Message- From: Dakota Jack [mailto:[EM

RE: OT constants interface

2005-01-22 Thread e-denton Java Programmer
What makes this sort of interface acceptable? package java.io; public interface Serializable { } Instead of, maybe... public interface Serializable { public final boolean isSerializable { return true; } } -Original Message- From: Dakota Jack [mailto:[EM

Re: Struts commons logging and debugging

2005-01-22 Thread send2rajesh
Has anybody experienced the problem described below ? Thanks for help! - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 11:27 PM Subject: Struts commons logging and debugging Hi, I am using struts 1.1 with Weblogic 7. I am

Re: [OT] Re: constants interface

2005-01-22 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Wow, this is getting a little hostile fellas... It's not like we're trying to decide whether Heidi Klum is hotter than Tyra Banks (she is, but not by much), and we're not trying to decide whether Enterprise should be cancelled (I say one more season to right the ship), and it's not like we're tr

Re: Struts Web Service project on SF.net

2005-01-22 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Will Stranathan wrote: Not to show how terribly behind the times I am, but isn't that precisely one of the things Axis does? To be perfectly honest, I don't know. I don't know much about Axis, so I'm not sure I can comment. But, being as how not really knowing what I'm talking about has neve

Re: How to get a dynamic property attribute

2005-01-22 Thread Wendy Smoak
From: "Dakota Jack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> However, this is impossible because Struts requires that the form have a getter with the name of the property value, i.e. getWhatever() for "whatever". Anyone have a good idea(er) on how to do this without changing the Struts code? Struts has LazyValidatorFo

How to get a dynamic property attribute

2005-01-22 Thread Dakota Jack
I would like to do something like:  '' However, this is impossible because S

Re: [OT] Re: constants interface

2005-01-22 Thread Dakota Jack
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 01:49:56 +0100, Leon Rosenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I think the whole thing comes down to Leon thinking that > > classes cannot implement a constant interface, which they can > > and, unfortunately do. The important thing, however, is that > > they can and that me

Select Multiple issues

2005-01-22 Thread Will Stranathan
Does anybody have a good example of an ActionForm/ combo that works? I've been banging my head against a wall for a week now trying to figure out what the issue is. With tracing turned on, the Struts RequestProcessor IS receiving a String[], but when BeanUtils attempts to call the setters in m

Re: Struts Web Service project on SF.net

2005-01-22 Thread Will Stranathan
Not to show how terribly behind the times I am, but isn't that precisely one of the things Axis does? You pop a war file into your container, add your existing business code, and voila, standard java methods are exposed as web services? Not saying your plans won't cure cancer, but are you rein

[OT] Re: constants interface

2005-01-22 Thread Leon Rosenberg
> I think the whole thing comes down to Leon thinking that > classes cannot implement a constant interface, which they can > and, unfortunately do. The important thing, however, is that > they can and that means that your design will be flawed if > you do that. > > Am I getting you right, L

[OT] Re: constants interface

2005-01-22 Thread Leon Rosenberg
> I think the whole thing comes down to Leon thinking that > classes cannot implement a constant interface, which they can > and, unfortunately do. The important thing, however, is that > they can and that means that your design will be flawed if > you do that. > > Am I getting you right, L

Re: [OT] Re: constants interface

2005-01-22 Thread Dakota Jack
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:39:47 -0500, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Which is why the use of an interface instead of a class makes > >>no sense. It merely makes bad coding possible and does > >>nothing else for you. > > Jack, your not saying using an interface in general is bad I

Re: Struts Web Service project on SF.net

2005-01-22 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Leon Rosenberg wrote: May I ask You what is the actual goal of your project? "This project provides a simple mechanism whereby existing business logic components of a Struts-based application can be exposed as rudimentary Web Services without the need to change any existing application code." Hmm,

Re: Struts Web Service project on SF.net

2005-01-22 Thread Leon Rosenberg
Hello Frank, May I ask You what is the actual goal of your project? "This project provides a simple mechanism whereby existing business logic components of a Struts-based application can be exposed as rudimentary Web Services without the need to change any existing application code." Hmm, I don'

Re: Struts Web Service project on SF.net

2005-01-22 Thread Leon Rosenberg
Hello Frank, May I ask You what is the actual goal of your project? "This project provides a simple mechanism whereby existing business logic components of a Struts-based application can be exposed as rudimentary Web Services without the need to change any existing application code." Hmm, I don'

[OT] Re: constants interface

2005-01-22 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Which is why the use of an interface instead of a class makes no sense. It merely makes bad coding possible and does nothing else for you. Jack, your not saying using an interface in general is bad I hope?!? :) This is an interesting discussion, but obviously off topic, so I've marked my respon

Re: Struts Web Service project on SF.net

2005-01-22 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Dakota Jack wrote: Hello, Frank, I really think this project is the creme d' la creme. Good show! I definitely will use this and might contribute, if I come up with anything useful. I don't think there is any issue with melding this and chain. Thanks Jack, I appreciate it! I'd of course appreci

re: constants interface

2005-01-22 Thread Leon Rosenberg
> Which is why the use of an interface instead of a class makes > no sense. It merely makes bad coding possible and does > nothing else for you. I have to disagree. If I have a constant pool in a class, i have to protect it from instantiation (giving it private constructor) and give it a spe

re: constants interface

2005-01-22 Thread Leon Rosenberg
> Which is why the use of an interface instead of a class makes > no sense. It merely makes bad coding possible and does > nothing else for you. I have to disagree. If I have a constant pool in a class, i have to protect it from instantiation (giving it private constructor) and give it a spe

Re: constants interface

2005-01-22 Thread Dakota Jack
Which is why the use of an interface instead of a class makes no sense. It merely makes bad coding possible and does nothing else for you. Jack On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:11:53 +0100, Leon Rosenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I wouldn't say it's a question of preference, the 'second approach'

Re: constants interface

2005-01-22 Thread Dakota Jack
To summarize Joshua Bloch, Once you use an interface for constants, you allow users of that interface to implement the interface to access the constants. However, that a class uses a constant internally is an implementation detail. The combination of these two things means that an implementation

Re: Struts Web Service project on SF.net

2005-01-22 Thread Dakota Jack
Hello, Frank, I really think this project is the creme d' la creme. Good show! I definitely will use this and might contribute, if I come up with anything useful. I don't think there is any issue with melding this and chain. On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:04:00 -0500, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTEC

AW: constants interface

2005-01-22 Thread Leon Rosenberg
> The thread initiation example was ok according to bloch. Sorry, small correction, the thread example wasn't ok according to bloch, but since anyone in the world, including mr. Bloch himself, are using interfaces to export constants, i think it's considered ok...

AW: constants interface

2005-01-22 Thread Leon Rosenberg
> The thread initiation example was ok according to bloch. Sorry, small correction, the thread example wasn't ok according to bloch, but since anyone in the world, including mr. Bloch himself, are using interfaces to export constants, i think it's considered ok...

AW: constants interface

2005-01-22 Thread Leon Rosenberg
Because he defines interfaces as class definition / object pattern solely. Using interfaces for constant definition doesn't fit this purpose. However, it was not ment for this case: public interface MyInterface { public static final String YES = "yes"; } What you shouldn't define in int

AW: constants interface

2005-01-22 Thread Leon Rosenberg
Because he defines interfaces as class definition / object pattern solely. Using interfaces for constant definition doesn't fit this purpose. However, it was not ment for this case: public interface MyInterface { public static final String YES = "yes"; } What you shouldn't define in int

Re: Struts Web Service project on SF.net

2005-01-22 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
I agree about chain... I just took a look it a week or so ago, just a few minutes looking over it (actually, I forget who it was, but someone posted a very nice summary on it a week or two ago on this very list). I thought about how to get the same effect as my project within that paradigm, and

Re: constants interface

2005-01-22 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
David, I'm snowed in today here in Pennsylvania, so I can't go out and get that book :) Can you enumerate some of the reasons Bloch advocates this? It seems like a reasonable thing to suggest, I'd like to know his rationale for it though. -- Frank W. Zammetti Founder and Chief Software Archit

Re: Struts Web Service project on SF.net

2005-01-22 Thread Vic
Sounds like an interesting project. Once 1.3 is a bit more stable but before it's released I will look for a good way to integrate JDNC (Swing WebStart) into 1.3 so I will keep an eye on. Chain is very simple and very powerfull. .V Frank W. Zammetti wrote: Just wanted to drop a note to let

RE: constants interface

2005-01-22 Thread David Bolsover
It is worth taking a look at the excellent book 'Effective Java' by Joshua Bloch - he outlines a number of reasons for avoiding the constant interface pattern and instead advocates the use of a constant utility class as in.. public class MyInterface { public static final String YES = "yes"; }

RE: constants interface

2005-01-22 Thread Leon Rosenberg
I wouldn't say it's a question of preference, the 'second approach' is an absolute NOGO and banned by each and every code conventions and code style book. Regards Leon > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Frank W. Zammetti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Gesendet: Samstag, 22. Januar 2005 16

RE: constants interface

2005-01-22 Thread Leon Rosenberg
I wouldn't say it's a question of preference, the 'second approach' is an absolute NOGO and banned by each and every code conventions and code style book. Regards Leon > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Frank W. Zammetti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Gesendet: Samstag, 22. Januar 2005 16

Re: constants interface

2005-01-22 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
I'm not sure there's a "better" answer... I'd say I see the first approach used more often... In fact, I'm not sure I can think of an instance where I've seen the second approach *IF* we're talking about an interface specifically for storing constants... Obviously when your extending an interfa

constants interface

2005-01-22 Thread Carl Smith
In Java, sometimes you would define an interface containg the constants: public interface MyInterface { public static final String YES = "yes"; } To access the contants, there are two ways public class WayOne { public void myMethod(){ String yes = MyInterface.YES;