Re: Adding a custom type for Joda Time DateTime

2011-08-09 Thread Andrus Adamchik
Hi Marc, Very cool. Haven't used Joda Time myself yet, but heard a lot of good things about it. This list strips attachments (so we didn't get it), and also would be cool if could cover some legal bases and later include your ExtendedType in Cayenne base. So would it be possible for you to ope

Re: Coexisting with WebObjects

2011-08-09 Thread David Avendasora
On Aug 10, 2011, at 9:54 AM, Aristedes Maniatis wrote: > When Apple dropped the Java-Cocoa bridge some years ago, the entire developer > toolset was also dropped. And the community picked up those tools and rewrote > them in pure Java (as Eclipse plugins). I think that was the last of the > Ob

Re: Coexisting with WebObjects

2011-08-09 Thread Andrus Adamchik
Didn't have a chance to read the entire thread yet (especially since it diverged to a general EOF/WO discussion). Maybe that was answered already, but here is a Cayenne solution to "legacy" sequences: > The problem is that Cayenne and WebObjects use differently named sequences to > allocate pri

Re: Coexisting with WebObjects

2011-08-09 Thread Aristedes Maniatis
On Wed Aug 10 11:35:03 2011, Joe Baldwin wrote: The last time I worked on a WO project was in 1999. At that time there was a Java library. However, it was a thin layer on top of Obj-C. The Webobjects application server I believe is (or was) a native app, that I think was Obj-C. My info is

Re: Coexisting with WebObjects

2011-08-09 Thread Joe Baldwin
> You do realize that WebObjects was rewritten in Java about 10 years ago, > right? It's 100% pure Java. All of iTunes, the Apple Store, the App Store, > etc. are Java WebObjects applications, not Objective-C. The last time I worked on a WO project was in 1999. At that time there was a Java li

Re: Coexisting with WebObjects

2011-08-09 Thread David Avendasora
On Aug 10, 2011, at 8:41 AM, Joe Baldwin wrote: > David, > > > On Aug 9, 2011, at 6:26 PM, David Avendasora wrote: > >>> Yes well I think there is still an Amiga community so the community bit is >>> sort of as important as a bake sale. >> >> :-) An interesting perspective. What is Cayenne,

Re: Coexisting with WebObjects

2011-08-09 Thread David Avendasora
Hi Joe, On Aug 10, 2011, at 8:19 AM, Joe Baldwin wrote: > Tim, > >> advantage for them. I don't think I'd be going out on a limb to suggest that >> Apple is a more nimble market force in part because of WebObjects. It is a >> weapon. Is there another technology that would be as nimble? So far

Re: Coexisting with WebObjects

2011-08-09 Thread Aristedes Maniatis
Cool! We haven't had one of these conversations around here for a long time. :-) On 9/08/11 11:06 PM, Michael Gentry wrote: EOF supported inheritance better (again, Cayenne is improving in that area, too). Well, interestingly the reasons why I moved my company away from WO some years ago w

Re: Coexisting with WebObjects

2011-08-09 Thread Joe Baldwin
David, On Aug 9, 2011, at 6:26 PM, David Avendasora wrote: >> Yes well I think there is still an Amiga community so the community bit is >> sort of as important as a bake sale. > > :-) An interesting perspective. What is Cayenne, or any Apache project for > that matter, other than a community

Re: Coexisting with WebObjects

2011-08-09 Thread Joe Baldwin
Tim, > advantage for them. I don't think I'd be going out on a limb to suggest that > Apple is a more nimble market force in part because of WebObjects. It is a > weapon. Is there another technology that would be as nimble? So far not. Good point. Look, I was one of the first programmers to

Re: Coexisting with WebObjects

2011-08-09 Thread Tim Worman
I'd take it a step further. I bet almost every dollar Apple makes passes through WebObjects and the technology represents a significant business advantage for them. I don't think I'd be going out on a limb to suggest that Apple is a more nimble market force in part because of WebObjects. It is a

Re: Coexisting with WebObjects

2011-08-09 Thread David Avendasora
On Aug 10, 2011, at 5:38 AM, Joe Baldwin wrote: > Yes well I think there is still an Amiga community so the community bit is > sort of as important as a bake sale. :-) An interesting perspective. What is Cayenne, or any Apache project for that matter, other than a community of developers? I be

Re: Coexisting with WebObjects

2011-08-09 Thread Joe Baldwin
Yes well I think there is still an Amiga community so the community bit is sort of as important as a bake sale. However, wikipedia cites that it is used in iTunes and the apple store. These are not bad projects to have on your resume. It is sort of a shock because NeXT was selling WebObjects f

Re: Coexisting with WebObjects

2011-08-09 Thread David Avendasora
On Aug 9, 2011, at 9:06 PM, Michael Gentry wrote: > We were all sad to see WO (and EOF) > wither and die, but at least T5+Cayenne seems to work rather well > together. The news of WO's death are greatly exaggerated. There's still a thriving, active developer community (wocommunity.org), the Web

Re: Coexisting with WebObjects

2011-08-09 Thread Joe Baldwin
Michael, > EOF supported inheritance better (again, Cayenne is improving in that area, > too). Well the single most important advancement is your memory management as well as maintaining the extremely useful faulting model that EOF did so well. Apple's objective-C library had a *horrible* me

Re: weird PK generation

2011-08-09 Thread Michael Gentry
Hey Bruno, I don't think anyone has had time to look at this. Any chance you could put together a sample model for us to use to make sure we are on the same page? Thanks, mrg On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Bruno René Santos wrote: > Hi Michael, > > I have just downgrade to cayenne 3.0.1 an

Re: Coexisting with WebObjects

2011-08-09 Thread Michael Gentry
Hi Joe, I'm not sure if Cayenne was created to be a next generation EOF or just an open-source ORM that was heavily influenced by the concepts in EOF. Andrus could answer that one better. There are still some areas of EOF that I'd consider superior to Cayenne, namely EOModeler was nicer than Cay