Re: remote debugging just stopped being available.

2017-09-05 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
7;t mind, can you > file one? > > BTW what was the exact error? > > Best, > Panos > -- > > On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 4:40 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > Yeah, I just discovered that a little while ago. So, is

Re: remote debugging just stopped being available.

2017-09-05 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
20332 on this bug. Now I've got at least one or two more RD bugs that I'm working on reporting - one is the crash, the other is one that seems to be causing RD to not work at all for me, either. 20333 on the mergAV/remote debug crash I built a little sample app to see if I could further diagnose

Re: remote debugging just stopped being available.

2017-09-07 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I wonder why it won't even start for me, now. On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 1:28 AM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 9/7/17 12:17 AM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote: > >> >> On 7 Sep 2017, at 3:15 pm, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < >>> use-livecode@

[off]8/8+/X

2017-09-12 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I'd say LC should be putting some more effort into Android. I feel even more of a shift coming. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God

Re: Script Editor Autocomplete Optional?

2017-09-14 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Maybe a little more nuanced control over it would be nice, but turning it on/off is a start. For example, I'd like to be able to use a shortcut to use it when I want it - perhaps option-tab or something similar. On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 2:19 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode < use-livecode@l

Re: [ANN] Release 8.2.0 DP-1

2017-09-14 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
wow. there are lots of autocomplete suggestions on bugzilla, already. On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 4:43 AM, James At The Hale via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Community Plus is a brilliant idea. > Fills the gaping void that Apple inflicted on us by not allowing the > Communi

Re: Script Editor Autocomplete Optional?

2017-09-14 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Question from the blog post ( https://livecode.com/new-autocomplete-live-errors-in-livecode-8-2/) In the snippet manager, you only define the name:type pair once, the first time that it is used, in the examples. Other places in the script, you only list the name. Does the name:type line have to a

Re: Script Editor Autocomplete Optional?

2017-09-15 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I agree that it will also be nice if more people use it because it will encourage more verbose, easier to read syntax use. Now...can we get code folding and block marking? Can we? Can we? PLEEEASE? On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 11:13 AM, prothero--- via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.ru

Re: Need a MergAV for dummies guide

2017-09-15 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
PINK: Any luck? What version of LC are you using? There was an issue and a special build for mergav a bit ago, but I think that's been fixed. I'm using mergAV in several apps, with no issues. On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 4:55 PM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> w

Re: Testing iOS apps on attached device

2017-09-16 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
you've got a provisioning profile issue, so the install is failing silently. It's documented in bug report xx. To figure out what the heck is going on, do the install using xcode and you'll get the error message. After you have the PP issue resolved, testing directly on the device will work.

Re: How to debug a hard crash of a windows standalone nowadays?

2017-09-18 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I generally embed debugging code so I can find out where the issue is. You can write info to a log file, a dialog, etc. On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 9:31 AM, Malte Pfaff-Brill via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I have a windows standalone that has been moved from

Re: Constraining an input field's contents to be a single line.

2017-09-18 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
If you have a mobile text field object, then have you looked at inputReturnKey? On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 4:17 PM, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I'm sure there must be an easy way I'm missing . he said in hope :-) > > I want a field to contain a single

Re: Constraining an input field's contents to be a single line.

2017-09-20 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
did that work, alex? On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Mike Kerner wrote: > If you have a mobile text field object, then have you looked at > inputReturnKey? > > > On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 4:17 PM, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> I'm sure there must be

Re: Constraining an input field's contents to be a single line.

2017-09-20 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
The easiest thing to do is to use a mobile input field, but if you aren't interested in doing that, Let's see: Crazy idea that I haven't tried 1: You might be able to trap the field getting the focus, and if it does get the focus, lock the screen until you can process textChanged, keyDown, etc., r

Re: Constraining an input field's contents to be a single line.

2017-09-21 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
gt; > appear to be any direct equivalent for mobile text fields (though there > may > > be other ways to achieve the same result on mobile text fields - I really > > haven't looked at them yet). > > > > In fact, maybe that's the question I *should* ask. >

Re: Constraining an input field's contents to be a single line.

2017-09-21 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Sep 21, 2017, at 05:59 , Mike Kerner via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > what do the asterisks do? > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit t

Re: Scrolling Groups on Mobile - Show a little of what is below

2017-09-21 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I agree with J. The simplest visual cue that there is something in the box is for the lid to be ajar. Cabinets with the door ajar begged to be open. Doors that are mostly but not completely closed are the same way. Lists should carry the same cue. On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 1:45 AM, Alan via use-l

Re: Scrolling Groups on Mobile - Show a little of what is below

2017-09-21 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
g wheel is a better choice for > lists. > > Bob S > > > > On Sep 21, 2017, at 08:14 , Mike Kerner via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > I agree with J. The simplest visual cue that there is something in the > box > > is

Re: Scrolling Groups on Mobile - Show a little of what is below

2017-09-21 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
ing a scrolling wheel is a better choice for >> lists. >> >> Bob S >> >> >> > On Sep 21, 2017, at 08:14 , Mike Kerner via use-livecode < >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >> > >> > I agree with J. The simplest visual c

Re: Constraining an input field's contents to be a single line.

2017-09-21 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
well, if you have tmc2, then native mobile fields are a breeze. If you don't, then they're still pretty easy once you make your first one. On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 7:32 PM, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 21/09/2017 16:14, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode

Re: Remote debugging - expected behavior

2017-09-28 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Then why not remove remote debugger from the (cluttered) inclusions list and only include it if the developer chooses 'test' (similar to what Monte was wondering in that QR). It seems weird and unnecessary, and possibly insecure to do it otherwise (insecure because if you forget to remove it from

Re: Remote debugging - expected behavior

2017-09-28 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
#x27;m not currently testing script errors, I'm testing other things and I > don't need remote debugging right now. It's getting in the way. > > > On 9/28/17 3:32 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: > >> Then why not remove remote debugger from the (cluttered)

Re: Remote debugging - expected behavior

2017-09-29 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Even when I use breakpoint, I'm having issues with remote debugging, which is QR...something. On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 8:18 AM, Trevor DeVore via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 12:56 AM J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.co

Re: mergZXing alternative

2017-10-02 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Which platform are you going for? mergav is for ios and osx. You can't use "search for", you have to include it manually. it works fine for me in my apps. On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 1:03 PM, Andrew Bell via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I just got around to building a new v

Re: mergZXing alternative

2017-10-03 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
There are barcode calls in mergav. There is also a sample stack that demonstrates how to use it for scanning barcodes. All the MergAV calls are documented in the dictionary. I believe the other reason why zx was deprecated was because av is faster and more accurate - at least it would appear to b

Re: 60 years of the Space Age

2017-10-05 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
What about 34 years of Space Ace? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Ace On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > And that brings up an interesting point. Who is to say that artificial > intelligence will be any smarter than the huma

Re: OAuth2 Status?

2017-10-09 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I'm using it with the new dropbox library. On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 1:58 PM, pink via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Does OAuth2 currently work? I’m using LC 9 Indy DP9, I tried 3 different > APIs (Toodledo, Todoist, and Slack) > > In all 3 cases, an empty window pops up br

Re: Trying to use OAuth2 for Dropbox in 9 DP 9

2017-10-10 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Also, if you're migrating from the phx_dropbox library, if you're interacting with the base directory, you have to include the slash. On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 7:28 AM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > On 10 Oct 2017, at 9:53 pm, Ben Rubinstein via use-l

Re: Dropbox library (LC 9) - does dropboxGetCurrentAccount work?

2017-10-10 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I'll look later. On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 5:17 PM, Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > New dropbox library great... but when I try to use > dropboxGetCurrentAccount, I consistently get a 400 error code (i.e. Bad > Request). > > Is this working for anyone else

Re: Dropbox library (LC 9) - does dropboxGetCurrentAccount work?

2017-10-10 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
The thing I tell everyone to do when they want to mess with the new library is download the original that inspired it, and play with that, because it's got better documentation and you can mess with everything. Granted LC's command names are different, but underneath the code is more-or-less the s

Re: Dropbox library (LC 9) - does dropboxGetCurrentAccount work?

2017-10-10 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
It works for me in both 8 and 9. The only way I get error 400 is if I enclose the arguments in parenthesis (which tells LC that all of that goodness goes into the first parameter) Remember, this is a command, not a function, so the arguments are not enclosed: dropboxGetCurrentAccount oauthToken, a

Re: Dropbox library (LC 9) - does dropboxGetCurrentAccount work?

2017-10-11 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
gged in to, or a button offering to log > in. Is there another way? > > Many thanks, > > Ben > > > On 11/10/2017 01:49, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: > >> It works for me in both 8 and 9. >> The only way I get error 400 is if I enclose the arguments in par

Re: Dropbox library (LC 9) - does dropboxGetCurrentAccount work?

2017-10-11 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
gt; if it's supposed to take two, that would explain the 400 error! But how >> does one obtain the account_id in the first place? >> >> I'm really only wanting to make this call because it looked liked the >> cheapest way to find out if the app has a valid toke

Re: Dropbox library (LC 9) - does dropboxGetCurrentAccount work?

2017-10-11 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
gt; does one obtain the account_id in the first place? >>> >>> I'm really only wanting to make this call because it looked liked the >>> cheapest way to find out if the app has a valid token for Dropobox; I can >>> either display the account it's logge

Re: Dropbox library (LC 9) - does dropboxGetCurrentAccount work?

2017-10-11 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
issue a pull request. >> > > How are you patching it to work? I can't see any way of issuing a POST > request in LC code (without using curl, which won't work on mobile) that > gets round this problem. > > > On 11/10/2017 11:58, Mike Kerner via use-livecode w

Re: Dropbox library (LC 9) - does dropboxGetCurrentAccount work?

2017-10-11 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
;> to break something else before I issue a pull request. >>> >> >> How are you patching it to work? I can't see any way of issuing a POST >> request in LC code (without using curl, which won't work on mobile) that >> gets round this problem. >> >

Re: Dropbox library (LC 9) - does dropboxGetCurrentAccount work?

2017-10-11 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
n LC's library, and I patched it to get it to work, >>>> but I want to understand more of why, and also to make sure I'm not >>>> going >>>> to break something else before I issue a pull request. >>>> >>> >>> How are you patc

Re: Dropbox library (LC 9) - does dropboxGetCurrentAccount work?

2017-10-11 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
> > Thanks for your help, > > Ben > > > On 11/10/2017 14:23, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: > >> And, curiously, as it turns out, the other endpoints that take a null post >> accept empty (and don't like getting "null"). It seems this only aff

Re: Dropbox library in LC 9 - centralise the access token?

2017-10-11 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
so file a qr. since it's written in LC it should be doable by either of us...or anyone On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > The new Dropbox library is (going to be) great. But while it's still only > in DP, can I suggest a mo

Re: Dropbox library in LC 9 - centralise the access token?

2017-10-11 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
And I don't know how modest it will be - the syntax of every command in the library would have to be updated, which means everyone's code (who is using the library) would have to update it. We could also have a new dropbox library that implements this, but then it would be up to the team to depreca

Re: Dropbox library in LC 9 - centralise the access token?

2017-10-11 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Most of the filestore apps, be they box, dropbox, google drive, oneDrive, etc. only operate on one account at a time. That's one of the nice things about the API's - you can operate on an unlimited number from your app. On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 2:00 PM, Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode < use-liveco

Re: Handy behavior snippet

2017-10-11 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
In dp9, now, when you right-click on an object, the first line is edit script, the second is edit behavior script. On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 1:04 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I can't remember when it was added but I've been using v9 for a while so >

Re: libURLLast/xx/headers on mobile?

2017-10-13 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Is there a QR, yet, on a better way to find inclusions that are missing? I'm inclined to check everything for desktop apps and be done with it so I don't run into weird debugging situations, since in standalone, LC scrips just terminate when they run into trouble. On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 8:43 AM,

Re: libURLLast/xx/headers on mobile?

2017-10-13 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
and...yep, it bit me, this morning, to the tune of about 90 minutes. There are libraries that are similar, but not similar enough, and because you have to manually select the inclusions, there are times... Unfortunately, the x64 vs non-x-64 issue is also a problem, because you can't include the x-

Re: DG2 Question

2017-10-13 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Hopefully the scrolling especially will get some help. On tablets we have large tables that go both horizontally and vertically, and the response can be clunky, especially when compared to mobTableField. On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 4:10 PM, Tom Glod via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> w

Re: [ANN] Release 8.2.0 DP-2

2017-10-14 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
That, and the standalone settings are on my list of things I want to take a shot at when I get time. The PB is buggy, and I miss thumbnails. On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 5:41 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 10/13/2017 12:40 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-live

Re: is a date

2017-10-15 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
why not have the engine do it for you - use convert to convert the possible date to whatever format you're expecting. If it the answer isn't the same, then you don't have a date. On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 7:05 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Yeah. Unle

Re: is a date

2017-10-16 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
HEY BOB COPYCAT! On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 1:34 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > May want to check out the MasterLibrary then. It's got a lot of great > commands and functinos, one of which will format a date any way you like, > including sql date. > > Bob

Re: is a date

2017-10-16 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Did I miss someone checking if the allegedly valid date is really a valid date? I don't think 99/99/99 is valid. On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 2:07 PM, Mike Kerner wrote: > HEY BOB COPYCAT! > > On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 1:34 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >

quicken dates

2017-10-16 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Way back in the day, Quicken allowed all kinds of shenanigans with dates It allowed a variety of delimiters It allowed pseudo-dates: 20 -- 20th of the current month 10/20 -- 10/20/current year + -- tomorrow m -- first of this month h -- last of this month etc. I really like this, because it makes

Re: quicken dates

2017-10-16 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
ill > incorporate your method for all my date fields! Unfortunately there are a > TON of line wrapping errors introduced by your pasted code. I'll have to > sus it all out. > > Bob S > > > > On Oct 16, 2017, at 11:16 , Mike Kerner via use-livecode < > use-liveco

Re: How to meet an integer

2017-10-16 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
you..one? On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 12:12 PM, hh via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > JLG wrote: > > Until I met my husband, ALL my dates were zeros. > > You won. > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com

Re: Need Dropbox guidance

2017-10-17 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I'm mostly converted to the LC library, and everything seems to be working. Best options to try: 1) Download Gerard's original stack, and see what works and what breaks (and what the responses are). https://github.com/macMikey/dropboxapi_v2. This is my default choice as I have learned a lot beatin

Re: How to meet an integer

2017-10-17 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
golfclap for hh. bravo. ish. On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 7:36 AM, hh via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> Mike K. wrote: > >> On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth > >> On the second day, God created the oceans. > >> On the third day, God put the animals o

Re: Need Dropbox guidance

2017-10-18 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
How are you getting the stack into pData? I just tried this, and it worked: on mouseup answer file "" put it into theFile put url ("binfile:/"&thefile) into foo dropboxUpload oauthKey, "/foo.livecodescript", "add", true, false, foo answer "it:"&&it&&CR&CR&"the result:"&&the result en

Re: Need Dropbox guidance

2017-10-18 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Well, I haven't been sending binary files, so check to see if what you get back is the same as what you sent up. The phx_dropbox library required encoding binary data. ALSO, don't you have to put a single slash after "binfile:"? I don't remember. On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 7:37 PM, pink via use-liv

Re: Clipboard pastes into single spreadsheet cell

2017-10-19 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
What I discovered when I was fiddling around with this was that when I copy text from a text editor (ST, atom, BBE, TW), and check the fullClipboardData in LC, the only key is "text". The rtf, html, etc. are all missing (put the keys of the fullClipboardData). When I put something into the clipbo

Re: Need Dropbox guidance

2017-10-19 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
what was wrong with the previous try? On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 9:36 AM, pink via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I did have a slash in the value of tFilePath > > I'm starting to understand my confusion, we're not uploading and > downloading > files, but putting and getting d

Re: Interview wtth inventor of hypercard Bill Atkinson

2017-10-19 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Wasn't yesterday VisiCalc's birthday? If ever there was a case of IP ripoff, it was that one. On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 4:24 PM, Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Tom Glod wrote: > > Here is a great interview with Bill. in which he reveals > > amo

Re: Autosaving stacks corrupted on network drives

2017-10-24 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Yes, this especially happens with simultaneous sync tools such as google drive (now backup and sync), microsoft ,oneDrive box, and dropbox. There are a variety of things that play into this annoying behavior, but the most common one is timing and latency/connectivity. It really gets to be bad if

Re: Autosaving stacks corrupted on network drives

2017-10-25 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Yes. Transactions are the individual operations, i.e. an audit trail. Then if there is corruption in the db, it is able to "play back" the transactions to recreate it. On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 10:31 AM, tbodine via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Thanks, Mark and Trevor, fo

Re: Autosaving stacks corrupted on network drives

2017-10-25 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
s of creating the semaphore file does not happen? > > Bob S > > > > On Oct 24, 2017, at 16:01 , Mike Kerner via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > Possible solutions: > > 1) Do what LibreOffice does. Create an invisible semaphore

Re: Autosaving stacks corrupted on network drives

2017-10-25 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
;> network share this process of creating the semaphore file does not happen? >> >> Bob S >> >> >> > On Oct 24, 2017, at 16:01 , Mike Kerner via use-livecode < >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >> > >> > Possible solutions: >&

Re: Autosaving stacks corrupted on network drives

2017-10-25 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
open in the IDE. If my theory is correct, you > should have no problem doing so. > > I did this and sure enough, I was able to put the file in the trash, AND > THEN EMPTY IT! But when I saved again in the IDE, it recreated the file. > > Bob S > > > > On Oct 25,

Re: Standalone Building for multiple platforms

2017-10-25 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I have a similar issue when I even build for one platform, except with behavior stacks. After the build, all the behaviors unload and the stacksInUse is reset. Every time I build I have to preOpenStack to get the other stacks back in. On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecod

Re: Call for Speakers 2018

2017-10-26 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I already asked Kevin to add a series on hacking the IDE. We could do a project as part of that, perhaps redoing the project browser - that would probably take long enough to require an hour each session... On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 5:31 AM, Heather Laine via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runre

Re: LiveCode Windows Applications on Ubuntu

2017-10-26 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Which reminds me - I've never seen an email server that had the option to strip out all attachments and links. On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 10:39 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > They clicked the link, didn't they? I Told them! DON'T CLICK THE LINK!!! > > Bob

Re: Call for Speakers 2018

2017-10-27 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
comfortable with the code so we all feel more comfortable diving in, doing things, and therefore expanding the IDE developer group. On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 12:08 AM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > On 26 Oct 2017, at 11:28 pm, Mike Kerner v

Re: Call for Speakers 2018

2017-10-27 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 10/27/2017 04:36 AM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: > >> The main question is how do we make all of us more >> comfortable with the code so we all feel more comfortable diving in, doing >> things, a

Re: Call for Speakers 2018

2017-10-27 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
t 27, 2017 at 2:01 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> On 10/27/2017 04:36 AM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: >> >>> The main question is how do we make all of us more >>> comfortable with the code so we al

Re: Relative Paths in Property Inspector

2017-10-29 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
it is related. As soon as I saw your post I said "gee, that looks familiar". On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 3:02 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote: > Backstory: > > Sometime back in a round with HQ we got the engine to "remember" relative > path settings for the filenames of images

Re: Relative Paths in Property Inspector

2017-10-29 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
What I meant was not that you shouldn't file a QR, but that I think that all the requests for relative paths should be combined because I think relative paths across LC would be beneficial. Sorry for not being clear about that. I have four obvious cases, where I see a benefit: 1) Using multiple ma

Re: Relative Paths in Property Inspector

2017-10-30 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Sure, but if you were to do that, then I should have an LC-wide preference that I can set so that I don't have to fix it for every project. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and man

Re: I Hate Full Screen!

2017-10-30 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Ya know, it would be neat if you could select fullscreen mode, and then all the palettes would become part of the border - so maybe on the left would be tools, on the right would be PI, and if I have other plugins open (think three palettes for tmc2) they would go left or right depending on need.

Re: Relative Paths in Property Inspector

2017-10-30 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
On "b", I have three machines that I use. Two of them use Google's Backup and Sync service, and the other uses Google's Drive File Stream. So in for two of the machines, the answer is "mostly yes" - the difference is the username, as the "Drive" folder is in the user folder. For the the third, t

Re: Relative Paths in Property Inspector

2017-10-30 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
hat is > different? > > At any rate you do seem to have a different, though obviously related > issue. > > > > > On 10/30/17, 6:09 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Mike Kerner via > use-livecode" use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > On "b

Re: Relative Paths in Property Inspector

2017-10-30 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
> > On Oct 30, 2017, at 10:48 , Mike Kerner via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > If you use Backup and Sync (the old "Drive"), your folder is ~/Google > Drive/ > > If you use Drive Stream and do not map the mount point to

Re: Relative Paths in Property Inspector

2017-10-30 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Yes, Brian. So I'm not sure what you're getting at. On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:07 PM, Brian Milby via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > ./ is current directory. ~/ is the user home directory. > On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 2:00 PM Mike Kerner via use-liv

Re: Relative Paths in Property Inspector

2017-10-30 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
This would mean that all of the Dropbox/Google > Drive/network share stuff would work as expected. You could also zip a > stack with the associated assets and as long as the structure was preserved > another user could unzip and use the stack. > On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 2:12 PM Mi

Re: Relative Paths in Property Inspector

2017-10-30 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
All I'm trying to "Get" is a simpler way to store the extensions folder on a network/sync so I get the exact same environment on every box. On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 4:11 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 10/30/2017 12:45 PM, Mike

Re: Relative Paths in Property Inspector

2017-10-30 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
10/30/2017 01:51 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: > >> I've got my extensionos folder in Dropbox. All my machines have Dropbox >> installed and it syncs to all of them. >> >> On 10/30/17 3:20 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: >> >>> All

Re: Relative Paths in Property Inspector

2017-10-31 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
prefs on each machine. You only have to do it once, and > going forward it just works for any other LC versions you install since all > versions on a machine share the same prefs file. > > > On 10/30/17 9:55 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: > >> So what do you hav

Re: Relative Paths in Property Inspector

2017-10-31 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
2017 07:55 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: > >> So what do you have for your paths? Are your usernames the same? For me, >> I run into the issue because my usernames aren't the same on every box, so >> the absolute path varies. >> > > Are you referring to

Re: iPhone X or "Apple is just the most annoying company of all time"

2017-11-02 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
If it's like the 5c and doesn't sell, this won't be a problem. On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 1:35 PM, Brian Milby via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > With the X Apple is suggesting that the status bar not be turned off in > most cases. That would eliminate the issue of the top sid

Re: The coming of SVG

2017-11-03 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
OOOH. Cool. So pretty soon maybe I can render interfaces in Sketch after applying themes from my favorite interface design houses... On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 9:19 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > My most recent talk at LCG (in October)

Re: Call for Speakers 2018

2017-11-03 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
his. On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 2:26 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Sounds like my coding experience every single day. ;-) > > Bob S > > > > On Oct 27, 2017, at 11:23 , Mike Kerner via use-livecode < > use-livecode@list

Re: The coming of SVG

2017-11-03 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
SVG's are not just standalone objects. They are also part of various widgets. On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Bleiler, Timothy via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > This is good news!! > > Is there any reason not to call the control “SVG?” > Why create another abstraction in

Re: The coming of SVG

2017-11-03 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
At least historically, paintings were bitmapped, not vector (think MacPaint vs. MacDraw) On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 3:40 PM, hh via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Look forward to the first release of . > > For the name, what about "painting"? > > __

Re: The coming of SVG

2017-11-03 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Please, not "vi" On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 4:14 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 11/3/17 1:41 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: > >> As I said one of the goals of this control would eventually be to replace >> the image object - so at some po

Re: The coming of SVG

2017-11-04 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
The issue with art is that anything that I do will automatically be relabeled "areYouKiddingThatIsNotArt", and abbreviated "thatIsSoNotArt", with a synonym "hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha" On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 2:34 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrot

Re: The coming of SVG

2017-11-05 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
@mark when possible, I think it's better to keep the vocabulary simpler or more obvious in LC. It's one of the benefits of the environment and the tool - less mental effort around the tool and the language. When possible, I think it's better to make it obvious to non-nerds, which will also mean

Re: The coming of SVG

2017-11-06 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I hope not, because I was thinking the same thing. One of those properties could be "type" or "class", and that could be "svg", for instance. On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 9:34 AM, Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > This might be a stupid question, but might it be

using LC as an emulator

2017-11-06 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Anyone write an emulator in LC? I've got an old ERP system that we own all the source to. I'd like to. The environment is interpreted, so if I could make an emulator/wrapper, I could in theory move the whole thing into LC and dump the old environments. -- On the first day, God created the hea

Re: using LC as an emulator

2017-11-06 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
in HP BASIC for an environment called Eloquence, which is an HP 3000/HP250 legacy environment that now runs on your stock iron hardware and OS's. On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 6:24 PM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 11/6/2017 2:22 PM, Mike

Re: using LC as an emulator

2017-11-07 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I know what it does. I own it. I've been working on it and in it since I was in grade school. I just don't like it. On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 11:07 AM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 11/06/2017 07:00 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode

Re: using LC as an emulator

2017-11-07 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
tool to the mix, here, I thought I'd chase this idea, first. As for a spec for HP BASIC, yes, it is well documented. I have both paper and online manuals. On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 11:28 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 2017-11-07 04:00,

Re: using LC as an emulator

2017-11-07 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I'll email you offline. On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 1:36 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 2017-11-07 17:42, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: > >> No, the ERP is written in HP BASIC, so I would want to emulate the >> la

Re: using LC as an emulator

2017-11-08 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
e a way to get at the HPB tokens and emulate each of them > in LC. Also IIRC HPB uses a pretty simple symbol table for variables and > such. > > > > Do you know about HTBasic which emulated HPBasic under DOS (I think)? > The company was Trans-Era. I have no idea if they are st

Re: using LC as an emulator

2017-11-08 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
ach >> might be to figure a way to get at the HPB tokens and emulate each of them >> in LC. Also IIRC HPB uses a pretty simple symbol table for variables and >> such. >> > >> > Do you know about HTBasic which emulated HPBasic under DOS (I think)? >> The com

Re: The coming of SVG

2017-11-08 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I was just reading an article, this morning, about the trainwreck of new gestures to accommodate the X's lack of a home button, and I guess what the author was saying is pretty much what I'm trying to say: If it isn't obvious and easy, then it's wrong. Keep the language on the level of what a gra

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