Re: Which git service suits a LiveCoder best?

2020-04-22 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
github. pricing is getting better, especially in the last month, to compete with gitlab. we have projects in both github and gitlab (and I guess one person is messing with Azure, or whatever M$'s other git thang is), but people seem to be using github more. gitkraken is the most popular gui our p

Re: Which git service suits a LiveCoder best?

2020-04-28 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I wouldn't say it's using levure as intended. trevor, in his videos, anyway, does not export every script to an SOS, only ones that are a certain length. if you do it that way, then scriptTracker could be valuable. I choose to put every script in SOS's, so scriptTracker isn't particularly useful f

Re: Best relational database for IOS / Android

2020-04-29 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
do you mean for c/s? if it's client-only, then sqlite and mysql are perfectly integrated into lc for ios. On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 9:55 AM Skip Kimpel via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Good morning, > > In your opinion, what is the best relational database to use for an I

mergGoogle source OSS'd

2020-05-12 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
LC has decided to deprecate mergGoogle, which is disappointing since my company uses it hourly to generate reports from our ERP system that our customers can use to check up on you-name-it. However, LC also generously agreed to OSS it, so here it is. https://github.com/macMikey/merggoogle -- On t

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.0 RC-2

2020-05-20 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
if i do a build for ios, the build number is what shows in xcode as the "version", and the "version" does not appear anywhere. On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 11:43 AM panagiotis merakos via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Dear list members, > > We are pleased to announce the relea

lc vs macos vs xc vs ios table

2020-05-20 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
do we have a table somewhere on which versions can be connected? i just tried to rebuild one of our apps for the annual app-build-of-doom, and discovered that: i can't seem to build for ios 9.3.5 (some older ipads), because i need to run xcode 11 on catalina. on 9.3.5 the app flashes white and the

Re: ANN: glx2 script editor 4.1

2020-05-25 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
thanks, mark. On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 11:31 PM Mark Wieder via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I have moved the repository from bitbucket to github because reasons. > > This is the latest build. It's now at glx2ScriptEditor version 4.1. > Release notes and a documentation w

Re: lc vs macos vs xc vs ios table

2020-05-26 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
here's an interesting note for me the next time I'm in a panic over an annual build: XC prior to 11 won't run on catalina (maybe 10 will, so maybe pretend I said "10" back there). On your machine, you'll see the circle-slash through the icon for xcode 9.x, which means apps that you built with LC 8

Re: ADA Compliency

2020-05-28 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Oh gawd, I had an ancient college sweaty OMG FINALS panic attack, because I thought you wrote Ada, not ADA. On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 6:57 PM Dan Friedman via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Has anyone done anything in regards to ADA compliancy in mobile apps built > with Li

base64urlencode

2020-06-16 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
does anyone have a routine to do base64urlencoding? it's not the same as base64encoding or urlencoding. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving.

Re: base64urlencode

2020-06-16 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
you sure? there is a difference in padding, as well, it seems. On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 12:44 PM Mark Wieder via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 6/16/20 9:24 AM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: > > does anyone have a routine to do base64urlencoding

SHA256withRSA

2020-06-16 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
how about SHA256withRSA - anyone have an lc script? -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, "This is good." __

stacks panel in standalone application settings disabled

2020-06-23 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
why would everything on the stacks panel of the standalone application settings be disabled? -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God sai

Re: stacks panel in standalone application settings disabled

2020-06-23 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
uh, isn't that a problem if you have behaviors included and you need to add or remove some? On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 4:57 PM J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 6/23/20 2:34 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: > > why would ever

datagrid delay hilite

2020-06-23 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
i just put a new dg in a mobile app (was using the mergDGScroller before), and noticed that the auto-hilite is very fast, like so fast that the dg selects the row instead of recognizing that what you're really trying to do is scroll. has anyone resolved that? -- On the first day, God created the

Re: stacks panel in standalone application settings disabled

2020-06-24 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
ce but it works. > > On 6/23/20 4:11 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: > > uh, isn't that a problem if you have behaviors included and you need to > add > > or remove some? > > > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 4:57 PM J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < > > use

Re: datagrid delay hilite

2020-06-24 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
nm, the datagrid library uses mobileControlSet sScrollerId, "delayTouches", "false" instead of true. bug report issued. On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 5:30 PM Mike Kerner wrote: > i just put a new dg in a mobile app (was using the mergDGScroller before), > and noticed that the auto-hilite is very fast

Re: datagrid delay hilite

2020-06-24 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
ntentionally is > iOS only. What is the solution for Android? > > Ralph DiMola > IT Director > Evergreen Information Services > rdim...@evergreeninfo.net > > -Original Message- > From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On > Behalf >

Re: stacks panel in standalone application settings disabled

2020-06-24 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
what's really weird is even if you turn on the other platforms, it stays disabled. On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 2:47 PM J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 6/24/20 7:26 AM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: > > why would it be disable

Re: iOS - open next field?

2020-07-01 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
yep. use the on inputReturnKey event then mobileControlTarget() to get the current field You need to know what the next field is to get the focus, then you use use mobileControlDo (next object),"focus" I generally have a handler in the card to do this, and I also generally have a list of the field

Re: iOS - open next field?

2020-07-01 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
oh, wait, I thought you meant the return key, or in your photo, the "go", key. nothing to see here, move along, move along. On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 10:40 AM Mike Kerner wrote: > yep. > use the on inputReturnKey event > then mobileControlTarget() to get the current field > You need to know what th

Re: OAuth2 was Re: google sheets - anybody doing anything besides mergGoogle

2020-07-21 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
. I've come across > > references which suggest that, but they date back to last year, and I > believe > > I've used this stack in January. (I also tried using LC 9.0.4 with the > same > > result.) > > > > I will try to get back to this. In the meantime,

Re: Google API Oauth - refresh tokens?

2020-08-03 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I'm pretty sure that refresh tokens are used with service accounts (the account has its own authorization so that it can do things, but it does not have its own storage or documents). Authentication is more involved, including, for instance, generating a JWT which has to be built and sent to Googl

Re: Cross Platform Font Layout - current workarounds

2020-08-25 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
this has always been a problem with multiple development tools, at least for as long as I can remember x-platform development tools and WYSIWYG being a thing, so Win 95, and MacOS 6 or 7 (uh...7?). I agree it would be great if LC would try harder, since the goal is to make the developer's life eas

Re: Basic question about behaviors

2020-08-25 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
i like "this me" less and less every time i read it. On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 11:30 PM Brian Milby via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Wouldn’t it just be “me”? And “this me” should be the behavior object. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Aug 24, 2020, at 11:19 PM, prothero

Re: Basic question about behaviors

2020-08-26 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 12:41 PM Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I LOVE 'this me'. This extraordinary use of coding language is truly where > LC shines and why I love it so much, - sometimes. [sigh] > > Sean > and that's why your fonts break - because yo

Hacktoberfest is coming

2020-08-27 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
It's just over a month away, this year's Hacktoberfest If you have or know of a LC repo that would appreciate some love, please put it here, and let's see if we can get some folks involved in participating in making the LC universe a better place. In case you have no idea what I'm talking about, H

Re: DataGrid 2 swipe actions

2020-08-27 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
name's mikey. y'all can call me... mikey howdy. i think it was just one line of code, too, right? it was just a matter of setting the delayTouches to true. i have no idea why it was originally "false". On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 11:39 AM Mark Wieder via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.c

Re: DataGrid 2 swipe actions

2020-08-27 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
meantime(s), setting the delayTouches to false(s) on a DG(s) breaks scrolling(s), thus my PR(s), from however-long-ago it(s) was. :-P Tag. You(s)'re it(s) On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 2:17 PM Mark Waddingham via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 2020-08-27 17

Re: DataGrid 2 swipe actions

2020-08-27 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22798 i submitted a PR as well. If you do a Show Package Contents on the LC binary, then navigate to Content->Tools->/Toolset->palettes->revdatagridlibrary and open "behaviorsdatagridbuttonbehavior.livecodescript" change line 371 to mobileControlSet sScr

Re: DataGrid 2 swipe actions

2020-08-27 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
ix works for you - great... > > Unfortunately it breaks some functionality for others so isn’t mergeable > as it stands. > > Warmest Regards, > > Mark. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 27 Aug 2020, at 20:58, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < > use-livecode@

Re: DataGrid 2 swipe actions

2020-08-29 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I don't think so. The scroller is a separate native object that overlays the rest of the interface. On desktop, the scrolling is handled by the object with the scrollbar. On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 5:09 AM Mark Smith via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Is there not a way to

Re: Layers in PBrowser

2020-08-31 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
The pb sucks. however, HACKTOERFEST IS COMING! Issue some PR's to fix the PB in Hacktober, get some swag... ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferen

Re: Hacktoberfest is coming

2020-09-02 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
ly don't want to do any work thats > going to sit there for a year+ > > Maybe someone from the mothership can give a yay or nay. > > On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 10:55 PM Mark Wieder via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > On 8/27/20 9:05 AM, M

Re: Hacktoberfest is coming

2020-09-03 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
it's not the engine, it's the ide portion, which is not binary. in addition, as it is a fork, it would be maintained in parallel with the LC version, so when LC releases an update, beta or otherwise to the ide, you would merge it into the fork, and review all the diffs. in some other projects, the

Re: Hacktoberfest is coming

2020-09-09 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
it's yours until you get a cease and desist letter. On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 1:06 PM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > That's really an old saying?? I came up with the saying People don't > change until it hurts not to. I thought I was being pithy. > > Bob S > >

Re: Hacktoberfest is coming

2020-09-24 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
It's almost here - Hacktoberfest 2020! And now registration is open https://hacktoberfest.digitalocean.com All you have to do is register, then make a total of four pull requests to any public repo during the month of October. Pull requests can be updating LiveCode's documentation, making a contrib

Re: Hacktoberfest is coming

2020-10-01 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
and it's the first day of hacktoberfest so get your fingers over to https://hacktoberfest.digitalocean.com to register then make four pull requests during october, and score a free 2020 hacktoberfest t-shirt update the LC IDE! improve something in the docs! make mobile datagrids work

Re: reading QR-code on Mac from an imported image

2020-11-23 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
why not ask LC if they will compile the external from ios to macos? On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 1:43 PM J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Right, no idea. I've heard the barcode reader can read QR codes but that > requires camera access and is for scanning exter

apns

2020-12-12 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
has anyone worked out the new way to do apns? since apple is dumping the old way... -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, "This

Re: New MacBook Pro Results

2020-12-14 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
the good news is that both are just normal stacks (as is tmControls/2), so you should be able to fix them. On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 3:27 PM Roger Guay via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Thought some of you might like to know, LC 6.0 works fine in MacOS Big Sur > on the new

USA OSHA ITA Reporting

2021-03-04 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
For anyone in the USA who is subject to OSHA's ITA reporting, have you implemented a solution that you would be willing to share? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your s

Re: USA OSHA ITA Reporting

2021-03-05 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
to submit anything. > > Rick > > > On Mar 4, 2021, at 9:27 AM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > For anyone in the USA who is subject to OSHA's ITA reporting, have you > > implemented a solution that you woul

Re: USA OSHA ITA Reporting

2021-03-05 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
What do you need? > > Are you trying to find an app that already > uses the API? > > Rick > > > On Mar 5, 2021, at 9:33 AM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > rick, > > ITA reporting is not new. it has bee

inputEndEditing out of sequence?

2021-04-03 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Can someone else test this? 9.6.0 ios create a native field have a button that navigates to another card in the script of the card with the field put an onInputEditing handler enter something into the native field hit the button does the onInputEditing fire before or after the card transition? For

ios field widget

2021-04-22 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I'm working on moving a tmc2 project to widgets and I noticed for the first time that there isn't an ios field widget. There's an android field widget and an macos field widget, but no ios field widget. Obviously we can code one out, but does someone have a widget? Are there any widget collections?

dg with native controls in template

2021-04-29 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Let's say we want to have a scrolling area, like a DG, and we want one of the columns in that thing to be a native radio button on mobile, which we can activate with touch. I'm not aware of a way to do that in LC at present. Yes? No? Maybe so? ___ use-liv

Re: dg with native controls in template

2021-04-30 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
n or a graphic image into a DG column, would either > of those work? Then you just need to script the behaviour of the widget or > graphic when it’s tapped on. I do something similar with check and uncheck > SVG icons. > > > On Apr 29, 2021, at 8:23 PM, Mike Kerner v

Re: dg with native controls in template

2021-05-01 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
p would clip it properly). > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Apr 30, 2021, at 9:47 AM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > not a terrible idea. > > We could probably also just set the hilite of a row. > > Something I&#

9.6.2 rc5/xcode 12.1 ipad simulator

2021-05-07 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I'm getting an error when trying to fire up the simulator: "Booting available device failed with error: Boot a device" In case I was missing a simulator, I fired up XC and then made sure that the ios simulator for 14.0 was installed, but no joy. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and t

9.6.0 simulator issue

2021-05-07 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Since 9.6.2 is giving me issues, I decided to try the simulator in 9.6.0. That is giving me "Unable to start simulator: 634,0,0,unknown C++ exception 573,263,1,revPhoneSetSimulatorSDK" -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the thi

Re: 9.6.0 simulator issue

2021-05-07 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
t want to try that. Simulator first, then load the app and > try the Test button. > > Mark > > > On May 7, 2021, at 7:28 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > Since 9.6.2 is giving me issues, I decided to try the

Re: 9.6.0 simulator issue

2021-05-07 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
t; > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> Hi Mike, >> >> I have seen this problem as well, rebooted, reloaded everything and it >> worked. You might want to try that. Simulator first, then load the app and >> try the Test button. >> >> Mark >> >&

navbar pre hiliteChanged

2021-05-13 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
How do you handle the situation where a user taps on the navBar but you want to intercept and cancel it? Example: User clicks on the navBar to switch cards, but there is an error on the existing card, so the navigation and the hilite changing should be stopped. _

Re: navbar pre hiliteChanged

2021-05-13 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
memo for the next person who discovers this thread: 1. as has been previously discussed in other threads, the navigation bar receives the hiliteChanged message even if the hilite does not change (which happens when the user taps on the currently hilited segment) 2. in my testing in 9.6.x, if you se

Re: XCode command line tools 12

2021-05-20 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I disagree with not putting it in your applications folder. What I will do, instead, is rename the folder to "XCode"+version On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 8:09 PM Ralph DiMola via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > This has worked for me. > > 1) Never upgrade or install Xcode from t

Re: Implementing UNDO

2021-05-21 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I _think_ that there might also be an undo manager built into levure, if you are interested. On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 9:20 AM Klaus major-k via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Hi Craig, > > > Am 21.05.2021 um 15:12 schrieb Craig Newman via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists

Re: Implementing UNDO

2021-05-21 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
fyi, for posterity, here is the link to the wiki for levure's undo manager helper https://github.com/trevordevore/levure/wiki/helper-undo_manager On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 2:34 PM David Epstein via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > LC’s built in undo does not appear to undo any

Re: lock messages and navigation bar widget

2021-05-21 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
"hilitedChanged" is currently the only message sent to the navbar search the how list for "navbar pre hilitechanged" from a couple of weeks ago, when I dealt with a similar issue. On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 3:11 PM Brian Milby via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Yes, I was imp

Re: bordercolor of buttons

2021-06-09 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
i wish we had tmc3 On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 10:09 AM Klaus major-k via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > looks like there is a (related) report already: > > > > Am 09.06.2021 um 14:49 schrieb Sean Cole (Pi) via us

could not find a valid identity to use for the selected profile - again

2021-07-19 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I am at a loss, this morning, to debug this, because it's not like i have not dealt with this issue repeatedly in the last ten years lc 9.6.0 xc 11.4 I removed my certs from the keychain and my profiles from the profiles folder i used xc to download the profiles checked the standalone application s

Re: could not find a valid identity to use for the selected profile - again

2021-07-19 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
it, do you see a private key? If a private key is missing, then this is > the culprit. > > Kind regards > Panos > -- > > On Mon, 19 Jul 2021 at 17:29, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > I am at a loss, this morning,

Re: could not find a valid identity to use for the selected profile - again

2021-07-19 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
tificateauthority/AppleWWDRCAG3.cer > > More details about this: https://developer.apple.com/support/expiration/ > > Cheers, > Panos > -- > > On Mon, 19 Jul 2021 at 18:26, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > Let's

what is the point of aps.cer?

2021-07-26 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
in the new APNS regime, you have to create an aps.cer file, but it does not seem like it is ever used in APNS. You use your .k8 file to do the work, and i don't see the aps.cer file being bundled or otherwise accessed, afterwards. you don't compile your app with it, either. -- On the first day, G

Licensing model change

2021-08-31 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I just read and watched Kevin's announcement about LC licensing. The value for us in the OSS license was simply a greater level of assurance that there would be longevity in the event that LC the company failed, as the source was still there for someone else to pick up. I think that's how MC -> RR.

Re: Licensing model change

2021-08-31 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I did not mean that we could get it to another firm for commercial use, I meant that we could potentially limp through, ourselves, with the exception of the pieces that were not OSS'd. Most of the time when we ask for source escrow, the fees are insane, if the developer will even discuss it. On Tu

Re: LiveCode community edition is gone

2021-08-31 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Don't forget the discount for however long that's good for On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 1:00 PM Kaveh via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Now I have to work out the new maze of pricing! > > On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 at 17:07, Andre Garzia via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev

Re: LiveCode community edition is gone

2021-09-01 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Extending on something Bernd said, I would hope the gang will consider is keeping portions that are built upon the engine OSS, even with a restrictive commercial license. Something else for all of us to remember, when LC went OSS, there was a reason, and at least part of that was financial. As with

Re: LiveCode Community - anyone up for maintaining the community edition?

2021-09-01 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
You could always get at the IDE. You still can. Hopefully that won't change, because there are plenty of times where something is broken and it takes forever to get it fixed. On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 9:37 AM Timothy Bleiler via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I’m afraid I hav

Re: Bye, and thanks for the fish

2021-09-02 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
@keith ok, so run the numbers On Thu, Sep 2, 2021 at 7:56 AM Keith Martin via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Unless someone’s hoarding gold that’s an interesting but not all that > useful pricing comparison. I prefer the Big Mac Index ( > https://www.statista.com/statistic

Re: Suggestion: Non-Appbuilding Community Edition

2021-09-02 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I don't know how much of a difference the compiling/building makes. While it is true that anyone who wants to "run an app" (even that's obviously incorrect, since stacks <> apps) can just download the free version, there is no way for that author to protect the source. Is that enough of an incentiv

Re: Licensing model change

2021-09-02 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I was not paying that close attention to all the details. Did LC take the current community installer down? If they did not, then this act seems odd. If they did, then I am not surprised. On Thu, Sep 2, 2021 at 12:07 PM Bernard Devlin via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I s

Re: Licensing model change

2021-09-02 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I'd also be curious how the new model compares to xojo On Thu, Sep 2, 2021 at 12:17 PM Mike Kerner wrote: > I was not paying that close attention to all the details. Did LC take the > current community installer down? If they did not, then this act seems odd. > If they did, then I am not surpris

"Unknown error." in LC when trying to test to connected ios device

2021-09-15 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Mac OS 11.5.2 LC 9.6.2 XCode 12.1 I choose a device from the Development->Test Target menu, then select Development->Test We get as far as the app getting signed, and then the error is thrown. I'm pretty sure the certs and profiles are current, since I manually removed them and then used XC to rein

Re: "Unknown error." in LC when trying to test to connected ios device

2021-09-16 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
ftware > (Now with 20% less chalk dust!) > web https://elementarysoftware.com/ > email sc...@elementarysoftware.com > booth1-360-734-4701 > -------------- > > > On Sep 15, 2021, at 1:58 PM, Mike Kerner via use-liv

Re: New MacBook Pro Display Notch

2021-10-19 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I'm not sure this will be a problem, unless you are trying to display something in the menubar, since that's where the notch is going to be. On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 5:14 AM Richmond via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I should have thought the simplest way round this proble

Re: Mud slinging versus genuine criticism

2021-10-25 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I'm glad we have these sorts of discussions out in the open. I hope there is not an appeal coming based on the lists that are submitted. And even though this horse is dead, maybe some day we can have equal rights for all items, especially the poor, empty ones. For those of you that don't recall, th

ios app: "Error opening database: cannot set file protection"

2021-10-26 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Well, this is a new message that I can't seem to find a reference to: I have an app that I've been working on for months. I did the first build of it that I've done in a bit, and got that message: Error opening database: cannot set file protection After hitting "OK", the app quits. -- On the firs

Re: Mudslinging and consequences - a change to our policy

2021-10-27 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
hey, bob, inflation isn't that bad, yet. the extra ellipses on the end... ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailma

Re: LC Bug Survey Metasurvey - Ranking Criteria

2021-10-28 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
As you probably recall, back in The Day, we could bug vote. Sometimes I miss The Day. I considered the immeasurable harm I have done to keyboards, especially mechanical ones. I loved some of those keyboards. They gave their lives for some of those bugs. I also considered the number of bottles of sc

widget store

2021-10-31 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
since the lc extension store is essentially empty, does anyone have a widget store, somewhere? i want to leave tmc2 behind, but i keep finding out just how painful the alternative is. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the thir

Re: widget store

2021-11-02 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
It is really weird that we are in a widget desert, like LCB has been ignored. I looked at LCB a couple of times, like when I was trying to fix some of the issues with the treeView widget before I just got tired of fighting with it. On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 6:22 PM matthias rebbe via use-livecode <

Re: Bug survey

2021-11-02 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
sounds like you should be filing a bug report. that also sounds like strange behavior. On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 4:42 PM francois.chaplais via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I wanted to answer the LC bug survey. > > The problem is that there is probably no bug number for my p

mobile accelerometer

2021-11-02 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
is anyone using the mobile accelerometer functionality? i am thinking of adding it to our shop floor app to stop updates while forklifts are moving. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold

Re: mobile accelerometer

2021-11-03 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Right - it's the deceleration and delay that I'm hoping I can use to determine that the forklift has stopped moving. And yes, there are simpler ways to do everything - but if I was going for simple, I would have stationary, wired workstations running our ERP software, not a mobile app running on th

win 11

2021-11-03 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
anyone screwing with win 11 and lc? -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, "This is good." __

Re: Bug survey

2021-11-03 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Does anyone remember the bug number for the mobile event ordering issue? I can't find it in the bug db and it just bit me so I was going to email LC to modify my list. This is the bug where (on mobile) events don't necessarily thread, so if you are in the middle of a handler and you try to jump out

Re: Bug survey

2021-11-03 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
oh yeah, and another one I forgot about because I've just dealt with it for so long: silent error fails on mobile - again I don't see it in the bug db any more. On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 5:03 PM Mike Kerner wrote: > Does anyone remember the bug number for the mobile event ordering issue? I > can't

Re: Bug survey

2021-11-04 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
3, 2021 at 5:48 PM J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 11/3/21 4:03 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: > > This is the bug where (on mobile) events don't necessarily thread, so if > > you are in the middle of a handler and y

Re: M1 Mac Windows 10 ARM in Parallels and LC

2021-11-05 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
remind me next week. my MBP just arrived, yesterday, and after 20 hours in migration assistant, is finally in use. I got a dev edition of win 11 installed in parallels, but i have not tried anything else with it, yet. i also have not figured out how to get the apps to transfer because you can't jus

Re: M1 Mac Windows 10 ARM in Parallels and LC

2021-11-05 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
and i don't think you can get the win 10 installer for arm any longer. i think it's been discontinued and you can only get 11, now. On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 2:45 PM Mike Kerner wrote: > remind me next week. my MBP just arrived, yesterday, and after 20 hours in > migration assistant, is finally in

xcode and catalina **NEW MBP**

2021-11-16 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Has anyone gotten LC/XC to work on a new mac that came with catalina pre-installed? I'm kind-of in a catch-22 with LC not working with XC 13.1 and XC 12.5.1 and below not even running in Catalina, so I can't complete the installs. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the

Re: xcode and catalina **NEW MBP**

2021-11-16 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
terey until LC can > deal with xCode 13. > > ~j > > Sent from Jim's iPhone XR > Please excuse brevity, typos and errors > > > On Nov 16, 2021, at 9:23 AM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > Has a

Re: Xcode and Catalina **NEW MBP**

2021-11-16 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
o be running at least macOS 10.15 in order to be > able to install the necessary version of Xcode. > > Ralph DiMola > IT Director > Evergreen Information Services > rdim...@evergreeninfo.net > > -Original Message----- > From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@list

Re: Xcode and Catalina **NEW MBP**

2021-11-17 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
link, please. It isn't working for me. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode

Re: Xcode and Catalina **NEW MBP**

2021-11-17 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
tion Services > > rdim...@evergreeninfo.net > > > > > > -Original Message----- > > From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On > Behalf > > Of Mike Kerner via use-livecode > > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 7:01 PM > > To:

Re: Xcode and Catalina **NEW MBP**

2021-11-17 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
ild tools to 12.5.1? > > Ralph DiMola > IT Director > Evergreen Information Services > rdim...@evergreeninfo.net > > > -Original Message- > From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On > Behalf > Of Mike Kerner via use-livecode > Se

Re: [ANN] Release 10.0.0 DP-1

2021-11-18 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
FYI, XC 12.5.x is being a bugger with MacOS 12.x for new hardware. Any chance we'll get XCode 13.1 in DP2? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preference

mobile debugger: unknown color?

2021-12-03 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I'm getting an execution error at line n/a (Object: unknown color) the debugger then throws up the card script, but the pointer is not pointing at anything. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals

Re: mobile debugger: unknown color?

2021-12-03 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Wow. This is even weirder. There was an error in the card script, but the debugger did not pop up for that, unless I put in a breakpoint statement, first. Once the breakpoint statement triggers, even if you just continue execution after, when the error occurs, the debugger will pop up. On Fri, Dec

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