Re: Training the AI to write better LiveCode

Richard, thanks very much, you certainly hit the nail. Ralf On 20.01.2023 20:22, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: If ChatGPT can write script, it can write machine code. If it can write machine code, scripting is unnecessary. If scripting goes, so goes scripting tools. So before w

Add new iOS app at Apple dev: What to enter for SKU?

Hi all, see subject, I wanted to add my app to my Apple Dev account and already have no idea what to add here in the first step: SKU (a unique ID for your app,not shown in the Apple App Store) ? Any hints very welcome! Best Klaus -- Klaus Major https://www.major-k.de https://www.major-k.de/ba

Re: Training the AI to write better LiveCode

Hi Richard, That’s for sure! We should never let an AI write code that we don’t have a prayer to understand. It should always write code that is humanly readable and correctable. We have seen this happen time and again where we put in the work to help a company become profitable, and we end up g

Re: Training the AI to write better LiveCode

An interesting point of view. We're a very long way from attempting to write all apps in assembler using this sort of AI. And humans are going to want to go on reading, editing and understanding code to create whole programs, whether produced by machine or a human, for a long time yet. When AI r

I thought this is on LiveCode, not on ChatGPT.

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Re: Training the AI to write better LiveCode

Microsoft thinks it's a good idea. They'll eventually own 49% of ChatGPT when talks are finalized. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On January 21, 2

Re: Add new iOS app at Apple dev: What to enter for SKU?

It's just an ID that you invent and it can be anything. PayPay wanted the same thing so my AirLaunch app is AL001, for example. It only shows up on reports to identify which product was purchased or downloaded. Bookkeepers like that sort of thing. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactive

Re: Add new iOS app at Apple dev: What to enter for SKU?

Hi Jacque, > Am 21.01.2023 um 17:22 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > : > > It's just an ID that you invent and it can be anything. PayPay wanted the > same thing so my AirLaunch app is AL001, for example. It only shows up on > reports to identify which product was purchased or downloa

Re: Training the AI to write better LiveCode

Rick Harrison wrote: > Hi Richard, > > That’s for sure! > > We should never let an AI write code that we don’t have a prayer > to understand. > It should always write code that is humanly readable and correctable. Advanced pattern-matching software (these day mislabeled "Intelligence") is in so

Re: Training the AI to write better LiveCode

Eliza never passed a Turing Test, not even remotely. I've been doing a ton of other research with ChatGPT, and it definitely is able to pass a Turing test in some circumstances. Example below. No, it doesn't "understand" the way a human does. AlphaZero doesn't "understand" chess the way a human d

Re: Training the AI to write better LiveCode

Kevin Miller wrote: > Richard wrote: >>> So before we donate much time to providing index fodder for the >> owners of ChatGPT, we might ask whether this is an investment we want >> to make, or perhaps at least ask for compensation for having provided >> the data that makes ChatGPT valuable for it

Re: Training the AI to write better LiveCode

Geoff Canyon wrote: > Eliza never passed a Turing Test, not even remotely. Formally, no. Nothing yet has. https://dataconomy.com/2021/03/which-ai-closest-passing-turing-test/ But Weizenbaum himself was surprised to see how readily people attributed human-like feeling to its rudimentary algo, e

Re: Training the AI to write better LiveCode

J. Landman Gay wrote: > Microsoft thinks it's a good idea. They'll eventually own 49% of > ChatGPT when talks are finalized. > > No doubt. The power to control a content engine that valuable is enticing to the few in a

Re: Training the AI to write better LiveCode

Using AI tools like ChatGPT there will be a big push for trying to automate coding with the most popular languages like Python. With more open environments like LiveCode it may get to be harder.It will always be started with by definition incomplete set of start with incomplete definition, and i

Re: Training the AI to write better LiveCode

Those only interested in LiveCode, click "next" now. On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 10:40 AM Richard Gaskin via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > After all, the Codex had been trained on billions of > publicly available source code lines – including code > in public re

Re: Training the AI to write better LiveCode

On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 10:50 AM Richard Gaskin via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > Human-generated disinformation is already a significant destabilizing > force. When we trust machine-generated content we run that same risk at > light speed. > Absolutely agreed -- If you

Re: Training the AI to write better LiveCode

Forgot to include: in the '10s I would have added rogue AI. On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 2:47 PM Geoff Canyon wrote: > > > On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 10:50 AM Richard Gaskin via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> >> Human-generated disinformation is already a significant destabi

Re: Training the AI to write better LiveCode

It's not possible to talk about software's current Second Industrial Revolution without talking about the lessons learned from the First Industrial Revolution. And it's not possible to talk about the benefits of the First Industrial Revolution without including the Labor Wars that eventually m

Re: Training the AI to write better LiveCode

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