Re: short name broken?

2016-11-03 Thread Mark Waddingham
On 2016-11-01 19:12, Richard Gaskin wrote: You're absolutely right. When in doubt I check the Winkler-Kamins-DeVoto reference, and indeed they verify that all name queries will return a value, even when the property itself is empty. When using "the short name" on an unnamed object, WKD says it s

iOS simulator not found after updating LC and Xcode

2016-11-03 Thread John Allijn
Hi, Yesterday I updated Xcode to 8.1 and LiveCode to version 8.1.1 and now LiveCode can’t find any simulators for iOS. In the Livecode preferences the list with simulators is empty. When I click Add Entry and select the new Xcode app, it gives an error: "The chosen folder is not a valid iOS S

Re: iOS simulator not found after updating LC and Xcode

2016-11-03 Thread Thierry Douez
Mmm, not sure as I'm far away from my computer, but I think you need Xcode 8 ! not 8.1. Hope someone else could confirm... Regards, Thierry 2016-11-03 9:57 GMT+01:00 John Allijn : > Hi, > Yesterday I updated Xcode to 8.1 and LiveCode to version 8.1.1 and now > LiveCode can’t find any simulat

Re: iOS simulator not found after updating LC and Xcode

2016-11-03 Thread John Allijn
Yes, 8.0 used to work just fine but I thought it would be a good idea to bring everything up to date... > Op 3 nov. 2016 om 10:07 heeft Thierry Douez het volgende > geschreven: > > Mmm, not sure as I'm far away from my computer, > but I think you need Xcode 8 ! not 8.1. > > Hope someone else

Re: iOS simulator not found after updating LC and Xcode

2016-11-03 Thread John Allijn
Installing livecode 9.0.0 DP1 does not fix it. I'm now downloadind the ios10.0 simulator. Maybe that helps... > Op 3 nov. 2016 om 10:07 heeft Thierry Douez het volgende > geschreven: > > Mmm, not sure as I'm far away from my computer, > but I think you need Xcode 8 ! not 8.1. > > Hope someon

Re: iOS simulator not found after updating LC and Xcode

2016-11-03 Thread Dave Kilroy
Yep Thierry is right - still too early to use Xcode 8.1.1 BTW if you’re going to have multiple versions of Xcode on you machine (which is a sensible thing to do if you’re going to have multiple versions of LiveCode on your machine) the safest way of doing this is to have each of them in their ow

Re: iOS simulator not found after updating LC and Xcode

2016-11-03 Thread Dave Kilroy
Ach - I should have written “Xcode 8.1” and “Xcode81.app" > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Dave Kilroy > Subject: Re: iOS simulator not found after updating LC and Xcode > Date: 3 November 2016 at 10:05:31 GMT > To: How to use LiveCode > > Yep Thierry is right - still too early to use Xco

Apps on iPad Pro

2016-11-03 Thread Randy Hengst
Hi All, This message is more of an FYI than a request for help. I had the chance yesterday for the first time to look at several of my apps on a 12.9‑inch iPad Pro. They were downloaded from the app store. The iPad was using iOS 10.01. I’m afraid my development notes didn’t include which versi

Re: iOS simulator not found after updating LC and Xcode

2016-11-03 Thread Bob Sneidar
When it comes to Xcode, this is almost never the case. What I have gotten from all the iOS posts in this forum, keeping LC and Xcode in sync is far more important than having either/both up to date. Which version works with which should probably be published in a document, and maybe already has

Re: iOS simulator not found after updating LC and Xcode

2016-11-03 Thread Thierry Douez
2016-11-03 15:37 GMT+01:00 Bob Sneidar : > Which version works with which should probably be published in a document, > and maybe already has been. > ​Hi Bob, There is one place:​ https://livecode.com/resources/support/ask-a-question/ ​but it needs to be updated too :) ​ ​Thierry ​ ___

Re: iOS simulator not found after updating LC and Xcode

2016-11-03 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 03/11/2016 14:37, Bob Sneidar wrote: When it comes to Xcode, this is almost never the case. What I have gotten from all the iOS posts in this forum, keeping LC and Xcode in sync is far more important than having either/both up to date. Which version works with which should probably be publis

Re: iOS simulator not found after updating LC and Xcode

2016-11-03 Thread Bob Sneidar
There ya go! :-) Bob S On Nov 3, 2016, at 07:44 , Peter TB Brett mailto:peter.br...@livecode.com>> wrote: Which version works with which should probably be published in a document, and maybe already has been. This information is always included in the release notes for LiveCode.

Re: iOS simulator not found after updating LC and Xcode

2016-11-03 Thread John Allijn
Thanks for the info. Xcode was upgraded, so the old version was gone. I’m now downloading the 4,5GB 8.0 version from developer.apple.com . hope that works! thanks again! > On 03 Nov 2016, at 15:45, Thierry Douez wrote: > > 2016-11-03 15:37 GMT+01:00 Bob Sneidar :

disabled on 10/28 for bounces--to gmail???

2016-11-03 Thread Dr. Hawkins
Did anyone else get de-subscribed recently? I got an email, that got filtered to promotions, that I was unsubscribed on 10/28 due to excessive bounces--but this is a gmail account. And what's the best way to sift through a few days of archives? -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 ___

Re: disabled on 10/28 for bounces--to gmail???

2016-11-03 Thread Richmond
Yup: I had that; so went directly and resubscribed: nothing to it really, just some mysterious "god in the machine" nonsense. Richmond. On 3.11.2016 20:31, Dr. Hawkins wrote: Did anyone else get de-subscribed recently? I got an email, that got filtered to promotions, that I was unsubscribed on

tableField . . . refering to columns

2016-11-03 Thread Richmond
So: I have a "^" delimited textFile (.CSV) that I imported into a conventional textField ("fPRE") and then tried to do this: on mouseUp set the itemDelimiter to "^" put line 1 of fld "fPRE" into PREE1 put item 1 of PREE1 into column 1 of line 1 of fld "fTF" end mouseUp line 1 if fld "f

Re: disabled on 10/28 for bounces--to gmail???

2016-11-03 Thread Ben Rubinstein
I was also de-subscribed for excessive bounces - and I'm not using gmail. I wonder whether it was related to the great DYN attack of October 21st? (Probably not - my suspension started on October 28th, and for various reasons it took me a few days to see what was happening and re-subscribe.)

Re: tableField . . . refering to columns

2016-11-03 Thread Roger Eller
A regular table field is TAB delimited. Also, refer to your "column" as "item". Try this: on mouseUp set the itemDelimiter to "^" put line 1 of fld "fPRE" into PREE1 set the itemDeliniter to TAB put item 1 of PREE1 into item 1 of line 1 of fld "fTF" end mouseUp ~Roger On Thu, Nov

Re: tableField . . . refering to columns

2016-11-03 Thread Roger Eller
Correction: You can't use 2 different item delimiters in the same command. on mouseUp set the itemDelimiter to "^" put line 1 of fld "fPRE" into PREE1 put item 1 of PREE1 into tJustTheItem set the itemDeliniter to TAB put tJustTheItem into item 1 of line 1 of fld "fTF" end mouseUp

Re: disabled on 10/28 for bounces--to gmail???

2016-11-03 Thread Bob Sneidar
OK, that being said, my spam filter is reporting fairly regularly that certain use list accounts have been quarantined for spam. This can happen if someone gets ahold of your email address, then uses it in a spoofed header to distribute spam. Alternately, some people also actually *do* send spam

Re: tableField . . . refering to columns

2016-11-03 Thread Randy Hengst
What is “column 1” in your mouseUp handler? As far as I know that doesn’t refer to a reserved word in LC… so that will cause a bump in the code. What do you get if you replace that line of code with: answer item 1 of PREE1 be well, randy > On Nov 3, 2016, at 1:54 PM, Richmond wrote: > > So:

Re: tableField . . . refering to columns

2016-11-03 Thread Bob Sneidar
Oh crap yeah I don't think a field has a "column" property. Boy it would be nice if it did! Bob S On Nov 3, 2016, at 13:14 , Randy Hengst mailto:iowahen...@mac.com>> wrote: put item 1 of PREE1 into column 1 of line 1 of fld "fTF" end mouseUp line 1 if fld "fPRE" contains this "2^45^9^1113"

Re: tableField . . . refering to columns

2016-11-03 Thread dunbarx
Richmond. Is "column" a native word in, what I assume you are using, v8? It is not in v6. Craig -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/tableField-refering-to-columns-tp4710016p4710025.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble

Re: tableField . . . refering to columns

2016-11-03 Thread Mike Bonner
The why has been covered.. no "column" delimiter, and the fact that.. if it were to actually work, putting item 1 of your sample data into item 1 of the field should put the item separated by the specified item delimiter.. so there would be no change. (unless as above you use 2 delimiters Meaning

Re: tableField . . . refering to columns

2016-11-03 Thread Bob Sneidar
Did explicit variables get turned on? I have had my explicit variables turned on without my assistance 3 times in the last 2 days. LC 8.1.1 Bob S > On Nov 3, 2016, at 13:14 , Randy Hengst wrote: > > What is “column 1” in your mouseUp handler? As far as I know that doesn’t > refer to a reserv

Scripting style: Verbs in function names

2016-11-03 Thread Monte Goulding
Hi LiveCoders In a PR I have open Peter has asked me to `Please name this function with a verb` and I recognised that in LiveCode this is something I don’t do out of habit while in other languages it is. Why? Because in the context the a function is used there is already a verb in the statement

Re: Scripting style: Verbs in function names

2016-11-03 Thread mwieder
When I'm creating commands I make it a verb. Or at least as verbish as possible. When I'm creating functions I'm inconsistent. The more common function usage is not as a verb: put ThePartNumberOf(someText) into tLine but I also do things like put Tag.Italicize(someText) into tItalicizedText

Re: Scripting style: Verbs in function names

2016-11-03 Thread J. Landman Gay
All the "native" LC functions are nouns. The reason is that LC functions can be used with either parentheses or preceded by "the". So we get this: put the date put the selectedChunk put the target If these were verbs: put the getDate put the getSelectedChunk put the getTarget whic

Re: Scripting style: Verbs in function names

2016-11-03 Thread Paul Dupuis
Monte, You might as well ask: Coke or Pepsi? or Mac or Windows? or iOS or Android? or Burger King or McDonalds or (pick your favorite non-American head to head competing things) :-) And is complex because, for example, I like the looks of "put Something() into container" in my code. However, when

Re: Scripting style: Verbs in function names

2016-11-03 Thread Devin Asay
> On Nov 3, 2016, at 4:16 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: > > Hi LiveCoders > > In a PR I have open Peter has asked me to `Please name this function with a > verb` and I recognised that in LiveCode this is something I don’t do out of > habit while in other languages it is. Why? Because in the conte

Re: Scripting style: Verbs in function names

2016-11-03 Thread dunbarx
Monte. I think it is more than purely symmetrical "Coke" or Pepsi" Functions return a value. It is far more natural for me to use a verb: put GoOutThereAndGetAValue() ... Though I must admit that any "subRoutine" call is asking for work to be done elsewhere, so that even a handler is also simil

Re: excessive bounces

2016-11-03 Thread Colin Holgate
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Re: Scripting style: Verbs in function names

2016-11-03 Thread Phil Davis
I like Devin's reasoning on this. One of the great benefits we enjoy in using LiveCode is the "English-like" syntax. This is one of LC's hallmark features. As I see it, we should work to preserve it and extend it in our naming of commands and functions. My 2 cents' worth - Phil Davis On 11/3

Re: Scripting style: Verbs in function names

2016-11-03 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 4 Nov. 2016, at 10:21 am, Phil Davis wrote: > > I like Devin's reasoning on this. One of the great benefits we enjoy in using > LiveCode is the "English-like" syntax. This is one of LC's hallmark features. > As I see it, we should work to preserve it and extend it in our naming of > comm

Re: Scripting style: Verbs in function names

2016-11-03 Thread Paul Dupuis
Of course, just to be contrary, English has lots of grammatical inconsistencies. So if one of the goals of LiveCode script is to be "English-like" shouldn't it have a few grammatical inconsistencies too? On 11/3/2016 7:43 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: >> On 4 Nov. 2016, at 10:21 am, Phil Davis wrote

Re: Scripting style: Verbs in function names

2016-11-03 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 4 Nov. 2016, at 10:55 am, Paul Dupuis wrote: > > Of course, just to be contrary, English has lots of grammatical > inconsistencies. So if one of the goals of LiveCode script is to be > "English-like" shouldn't it have a few grammatical inconsistencies too? Well we won’t have any trouble th

Re: Debugging the IDE

2016-11-03 Thread Richard Gaskin
Bob Sneidar wrote: > ...I set the global gRevDevelopment to true so I can step through > the scripts. That should not be necessary. > To my horror I am finding a number of errors where a handler is being > called that didn't exist, but it never shows up because if > gRevDevelopment is false, p

Re: disabled on 10/28 for bounces--to gmail???

2016-11-03 Thread Mike Bonner
Bumped from the list again. *sigh* On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 1:47 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > OK, that being said, my spam filter is reporting fairly regularly that > certain use list accounts have been quarantined for spam. This can happen > if someone gets ahold of your email address, then uses it i

Re: Scripting style: Verbs in function names

2016-11-03 Thread Richard Gaskin
Monte Goulding wrote: > In a PR I have open Peter has asked me to `Please name this function > with a verb` and I recognised that in LiveCode this is something I > don’t do out of habit while in other languages it is. Why? Because in > the context the a function is used there is already a verb in

Re: Scripting style: Verbs in function names

2016-11-03 Thread hh
> Monte wrote: > Peter has asked me to "Please name this function with a verb" Perhaps he simply meant: set property "name" of this function to "a verb"? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, un

Re: disabled on 10/28 for bounces--to gmail???

2016-11-03 Thread Mike Kerner
I just had that happen, again - second time in a week. On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > OK, that being said, my spam filter is reporting fairly regularly that > certain use list accounts have been quarantined for spam. This can happen > if someone gets ahold of your email add

Re: disabled on 10/28 for bounces--to gmail???

2016-11-03 Thread J. Landman Gay
And this is a test post because the one I sent hours ago never showed up. Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On November 3, 2016 8:24:49 PM Mike Kerner wrote: I just had that happen, again - second

Re: Debugging the IDE

2016-11-03 Thread Mark Wieder
On 11/03/2016 05:54 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Bob Sneidar wrote: ...I set the global gRevDevelopment to true so I can step through the scripts. That should not be necessary. See below. To my horror I am finding a number of errors where a handler is being called that didn't exist, but i

Re: Scripting style: Verbs in function names

2016-11-03 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 4 Nov. 2016, at 12:07 pm, hh wrote: > >> Monte wrote: >> Peter has asked me to "Please name this function with a verb" > > Perhaps he simply meant: > set property "name" of this function to "a verb"? No I don’t think so. This is common best practice so what’s up for discussion is whether