I always thought that LiveCode would make it easy to write scripted tests of
GUI applications as it is based on messages. In fact, I’m a little surprised
that there doesn’t seem to be much use of scripted testing either by RunRev or
the community. I started to experiment with a very simple test,
I'm not fluent in English or even in Scottish, because I'm Finnish (two
n's). Still I think, I understood enough what Richmond told about
contemporary youth and I definitely agree.
I found that they discuss with phones and if it is not in Google its even
exists. Richmond, when it's time to change o
Wow! It worked! I did not get an extra page, and so I got what I wanted.
At first sight, I couldn't see the functional difference between my code and
yours., then I realised that you set the printMargins BEFORE your ‘open
printing’ statement, and I’d set them afterwards. I suppose to the engin
Ha - I didn’t pay sufficient attention. In the LC Dictionary for ‘open
printing’ it says:
> Important! Any printing options, such as setting print spacing and margins,
> must be set before the open printing statement. Any options which are set
> after it will be ignored.
So, mea maxima culp
Hi from Beautiful Brittany,
I’ve been programming for more than 40 years, and I will
certainly not give you a list of the programming languages
that I have used.
I have used all sorts of mechanisms to help me program
quickly and efficiently. My latest system is to write my
scripts using comments “
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 3:06 AM, Graham Samuel wrote:
>
> OK, I’m trying to follow your code. As I understand it, you have a card
> whose name is in “otCd”. You print the whole card by setting its rectangle.
> However you don’t print it to a conceptual bit of paper the same size as
> the card, d
But what really is annoying me is the fact you can NOT browse with your
cursors keys in the LiveCode Dictionary or am I the only one?
Erik Beugelaar
On 24/02/15 14:08, "Francis Nugent Dixon" wrote:
>Hi from Beautiful Brittany,
>
>I¹ve been programming for more than 40 years, and I will
>c
Maybe I don’t understand the problem, but I would rather have the control of
silently overwriting a file or alerting the user instead and giving them
options. If they fix this “bug” that would present a problem for me.
Bob S
On Feb 23, 2015, at 19:32 , Graham Samuel
mailto:livf...@mac.com>> w
I use this for more complex tasks. I think the reason for this is that there
are different modes of thought when developing software. One mode is deciding
what you want your app to look and feel like to the end user. Another is
determining the steps necessary to accomplish the task in the enviro
The issue here is that this is a built-in feature of not only the OS X
PutFile dialog, but also the ones in Windows and Linux, and it used to
work in LC as it does in any other program, prompting us right in the
dialog when we're about to save something that will overwrite an
existing file.
I
I’ll tell you something else that might be annoying to anyone developing in
Windows. I can’t seem to clone anything in the script editor when in Windows.
In OS X I can option-dragDrop text and it will make a copy of it instead of
move it.
Bob S
On Feb 24, 2015, at 06:51 , Erik Beugelaar
mail
Still trying to figure this out.
There's a user note in the dictionary that says $1 does not contain the
path to the double clicked file on OSX. Is that true?
On Mon Feb 23 2015 at 1:00:02 PM Peter Haworth wrote:
> Thanks Paul.
>
> The problem is, the file types involved are SQLite databases a
On 2/24/2015 9:31 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote:
Maybe I don’t understand the problem, but I would rather have the
control of silently overwriting a file or alerting the user instead
and giving them options. If they fix this “bug” that would present a
problem for me.
It only applies to the "ask file" d
Peter Haworth wrote:
> There's a user note in the dictionary that says $1 does not contain
> the path to the double clicked file on OSX. Is that true?
I believe so. OS X may be a certified Unix, but the Finder is off in a
world of its own. :)
On Linux and Windows that still works, and on bot
Ah! That makes more sense. Still, I have been checking beforehand and alerting
the user anyway, which gives me a little more control over the process. I guess
it’s a question of which side you butter your toast on.
Bob S
On Feb 24, 2015, at 10:49 , J. Landman Gay
mailto:jac...@hyperactivesw.c
Thanks Richard. The code I'm using came from a note in the dictionary with
a note that it came from Trevor Devore originally but it's dated 2009 so
maybe Apple events have changed since then. I tried the double click with
the application not running and with it running but did not seem to hot the
Which event, odoc or oapp?
If only the former, what happens when you include the latter?
--
Richard Gaskin
Fourth World Systems
Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
ambassa...@fourthworld.co
Doesn't matter which side you butter the toast, it will always fall on the
floor butter side down, except if you are trying to demonstrate that fact,
in which case it will fall butter side up.
On Tue Feb 24 2015 at 11:02:27 AM Bob Sneidar
wrote:
> Ah! That makes more sense. Still, I have been ch
I'm looking for odoc right now but I just inserted some answer statements
right at the top of my appleevent handler and it's not being triggered.
Unless answer statements don't work within an applevent handler for some
weird reason.
On Tue Feb 24 2015 at 11:05:46 AM Richard Gaskin
wrote:
> Which
Peter Haworth wrote:
I'm looking for odoc right now but I just inserted some answer statements
right at the top of my appleevent handler and it's not being triggered.
Unless answer statements don't work within an applevent handler for some
weird reason.
Try putting your appleEvent handler in a
Studies may have shown that there is a correlation with the value of the
flooring - the most expensive Persian carpet will be more likely to get butter
on it than deal floorboards. Somewhere in cyberspace there is a link to the
relevant research... I could probably find it.
Graham
Sent from my
I added a button to my application and put the appleevent handler in its
script. Added a startup handler to the first card of my main stack to
insert the button script into front. Built the standalone.
Double clicked a file associated with the application while the application
was not running.
On 2/24/2015 1:23 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Peter Haworth wrote:
I'm looking for odoc right now but I just inserted some answer statements
right at the top of my appleevent handler and it's not being triggered.
Unless answer statements don't work within an applevent handler for some
weird reason
In addition, if there is a furred animal nearby, the trajectory will
veer toward the animal and land butter side down on its back.
Researchers speculate this rule also applies to feathered animals, but
those tend to move out of range so quickly that tests have been
inconclusive.
On 2/24/2015
Peter Haworth wrote:
I added a button to my application and put the appleevent handler in its
script. Added a startup handler to the first card of my main stack to
insert the button script into front. Built the standalone.
Double clicked a file associated with the application while the applica
On 2/24/2015 1:53 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
How do you handle your documents on Mac without aevt/odoc? Why is this
bug one that's only being filed now? Do all of you who make
document-centric apps put your ae handlers in frontScripts? No one else
has seen this but Peter and me?
Well, in my c
Thank you Richard and Jacque. Here's the current status.
At Jacque's suggestion I moved the appleevent handler to my main stack
script and removed the code that inserted it as a front script. The result
of that was the same as with the appleevent handler in a front script,
meaning if the app is
On Feb 24, 2015, at 2:06 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:
> Doesn't matter which side you butter the toast, it will always fall on the
> floor butter side down, except if you are trying to demonstrate that fact,
> in which case it will fall butter side up.
Probability in the real world: anytime you have
Same here. I was able to dig up an app I built back in 2009/10 which
worked fine back then, and now when double-clicking a saved doc in the
Finder, I can launch the app, but the document doesn¹t open (which seems
to be one step behind Pete¹s experiments).
I think one reason in answer to Richard'
J. Landman Gay wrote:
On 2/24/2015 1:53 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
How do you handle your documents on Mac without aevt/odoc? Why is this
bug one that's only being filed now? Do all of you who make
document-centric apps put your ae handlers in frontScripts? No one else
has seen this but Peter
On 2/24/2015 2:40 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:
Same here. I was able to dig up an app I built back in 2009/10 which
worked fine back then
Yeah. I was just digging around in old apps trying to find the one I
remembered and they were all dated 2009 or earlier. Maybe the last time
we were using appl
Peter Haworth wrote:
Thank you Richard and Jacque. Here's the current status.
At Jacque's suggestion I moved the appleevent handler to my main stack
script and removed the code that inserted it as a front script. The result
of that was the same as with the appleevent handler in a front script,
On 2/24/2015 2:56 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
J. Landman Gay wrote:
On 2/24/2015 1:53 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
How do you handle your documents on Mac without aevt/odoc? Why is this
bug one that's only being filed now? Do all of you who make
document-centric apps put your ae handlers in front
Wierdness abounds:
I made a standalone with this card script:
on startup
insert script of btn "fs" into front
end startup
This script in a button "fs":
on appleEvent
put the params &cr & the executionContexts &cr&cr after fld 1
pass appleEvent
end appleEvent
And that same script in
Hi Richard,
It started off life in card 1 of my main script. Did that because the
dictionary entry for appleEvent says it's sent to "the current card".
If I can't get this to work when the app isn't running, I may just forget
about it. It's good that it works if the app is already open but my ap
Pretty interesting. I don;t think I launched the app by double clicking it
when I had my debug code in there for "oapp", was always launching it by
double clicking a file associated with it.
I have to step out for a while but will try this scenario here when I get
back.
Even if I do see the oapp
On 2/24/2015 3:15 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:
I also noticed that I can't drag/drop a file onto the app's window but I
think that's probably something to do with its plist entry.
The plist needs the entry, but also you need an appleEvent to catch the
drop.
--
Jacqueline Landman Gay |
Peter Haworth wrote:
> I also noticed that I can't drag/drop a file onto the app's window
> but I think that's probably something to do with its plist entry.
For that you'll need to define the receiving area as a drobbable space.
There are a couple ways to do that depending on what you want to
Hi Bob,
Bob Sneidar-2 wrote
> [snip]
> Livecode at least in theory allows us to hop
> around these modes of thought like stones
> in a stream, but the reality of the human
> psyche doesn’t lend itself to this very well.
> So the time tested method of software development,
> the planning, the
Thanks Jacque and Richard for the drag/drop thoughts. Sounds like these
are alternative ways to do the same thing?
On Tue Feb 24 2015 at 1:53:34 PM Richard Gaskin
wrote:
> Peter Haworth wrote:
> > I also noticed that I can't drag/drop a file onto the app's window
> > but I think that's probab
Peter Haworth wrote:
Thanks Jacque and Richard for the drag/drop thoughts. Sounds like these
are alternative ways to do the same thing?
The plist in the app bundle governs what can be dropped on the app icon.
For anything within LiveCode windows, LiveCode's drag and drop messages
handle tha
Just tried opening the application by double clicking it and still no oapp
event. The more I think about this, the more I"m thinking that there's
something in my startup/preopnCard handlers that is getting in the way of
the apple event. That would explain why double clicking on a file AFTER
the a
Even weirder:
Offlist Bernd kindly sent an example of a stack similar to what's
described below, but it works flawlessly.
The only significant difference I could find was that his uses a custom
document type, while I had use txt.
So I went back to my test app, changed the document type from
Yeah, I got that stack and it works for me too. I actually removed the
file association since that's how my app is built but it still worked. As
mentioned previously, I'm thinking that perhaps the problem is in the code
in my startup/preOpenCard handlers somehow stepping on the appleEvent
message
So THAT is why I have gone 3 days without one single Savage Blood drop in World
of Warcraft! Thanks for that.
Bob S
> On Feb 24, 2015, at 12:29 , Peter M. Brigham wrote:
>
> On Feb 24, 2015, at 2:06 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:
>
>> Doesn't matter which side you butter the toast, it will always
Okay, 1 beer really can’t stop me from looking stuff up. Please see:
http://superuser.com/questions/20822/where-does-mac-os-x-store-file-association-information
Looks like you need a terminal command to do this. When in doubt, SHELL IT!
Your mileage may vary.
Bob S
On Feb 24, 2015, at 15:58 ,
Richard's way is better. I wasn't thinking.
On February 24, 2015 5:18:23 PM CST, Richard Gaskin
wrote:
> Peter Haworth wrote:
>> Thanks Jacque and Richard for the drag/drop thoughts. Sounds like
>these
>> are alternative ways to do the same thing?
>
>The plist in the app bundle governs what
We are moving to the cloud (Digital Ocean) in a month or two. I'll be
spinning up a new server instance.
Looking for comments/insights on using LiveCode server on LInux, best
performance etc.
We will be running RevIgniter for a main site and XOOPS and other
smaller PHP CMS (Dokuwiki, Flyspra
Brahmanathaswami write:
> Looking for comments/insights on using LiveCode server on LInux, best
> performance etc.
>
> We will be running RevIgniter for a main site and XOOPS and other
> smaller PHP CMS (Dokuwiki, Flyspray) on the new "box"
>
> I'm told that LC 7 server breaks on Ubuntu and someo
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