Relative Scrolling Performance in different development environments

2014-10-25 Thread Terence Heaford
I have produced some very rough figures for scrolling in LC for different releases. Each table consists of 8 columns and 20 rows. There are approx. 2000 records supplied from an SQLite DB. Each measurement is the time taken in seconds to scroll from top to bottom of the data. I have used 3 me

Re: 7.0 corrupted two stacks!

2014-10-25 Thread Jimmieson, Phil
On 25 Oct 2014, at 03:29, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Timothy Miller wrote: > > > I just downloaded and installed the "stable" version of 7.0, > > didn't give it much thought. I only opened two stacks... > ... > > The two stacks I opened come up corrupted in LiveCode Community > > 6.6.5. > > Any ne

how to disturb newbies

2014-10-25 Thread Jacques Hausser
Dictionary examples: Syntax: after messageName [parametersList] statementList end messageName Examples: after mouseUp answer "after mouse up received" end resizeStack --- before Syntax: before messageName [parametersList] statementList end messageName Examples: before mouseUp answer "b

Re: The Bearer Of Bad News

2014-10-25 Thread Colin Holgate
I have in the past disliked Time Machine. In those days I had a regular hard drive, and it seemed sometimes that it would take the full hour to backup, meaning that it was backing up continuously, and noticeably affecting the responsiveness of the system while it was doing that. Now I use SSD (t

Possible bug in LC6.7 - maybe one for Mark Schonewille?

2014-10-25 Thread Graham Samuel
In a desktop app (Mac and Windows - currently testing the Mac version) I’m using a button (actually a group acting as a button) designed by Mark Schonewille which does nice things with shading. This has been working for a long time, ever since it was announced by Mark. Now in LC 6.7, I get a com

Re: sendmail through On-Rev server

2014-10-25 Thread Mike Bonner
I used sendmail on diesel a couple weeks ago. It was SLOW, but it worked. (I set up a stack here to post 61 sets of email data to an on-rev script, one at a time, with small delay between, and the server would hit sendmail to send em out.) Kinda sounds like diesel either has a hardware problem, o

Re: how to disturb newbies

2014-10-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
Jacques Hausser wrote: Dictionary examples: Syntax: after messageName [parametersList] statementList end messageName Examples: after mouseUp answer "after mouse up received" end resizeStack --- before Syntax: before messageName [parametersList] statementList end messageName Examples: befo

Re: how to disturb newbies

2014-10-25 Thread larry
Richard, If that is the case, then apparently there isn't much being done in submitting notice, because I know of many, many Dictionary errors. Larry I don't like to keep being a pest about this, but it would be SO nice if LC allowed us to edit the Dictionary on our own - our own corrections a

Re: how to disturb newbies

2014-10-25 Thread Earthednet-wp
If there was a way to include user comments from a link in the dictionary entry, it would be helpful to those who work to improve the dictionary. Or perhaps a direct link to the location where dictionary bugs are reported. Many of the comments would probably be made by newer users, who wouldn't

Re: how to disturb newbies

2014-10-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
larry wrote: > Richard wrote: >> I've found in recent years that Dictionary errors have generally >> been fixed almost instantly once notice is submitted, almost >> always prior to the next release. > > Richard, > If that is the case, then apparently there isn't much being done in > submitting no

Looking for best practice in switching libraries

2014-10-25 Thread Paul Dupuis
All, I am looking for a 'best' practice in switching between versions of a library stack. I have several versions of a 3rd party library stack, with file names called libraryv1.livecode, libraryv2.livecode, and libraryv3.livecode The stack name in the 3 files is always the same - say 'library' an

Re: how to disturb newbies

2014-10-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
Thanks for writing, Bill: > If there was a way to include user comments from a link in > the dictionary entry, it would be helpful to those who work > to improve the dictionary. Several versions back the team added a Notes facility, found at the bottom of each Dictionary entry. While this is

Re: Looking for best practice in switching libraries

2014-10-25 Thread Scott Rossi
Use ³delete stack xyz². I¹ve run into similar situations before where closing a stack does not actually remove it from memory. Delete stack should do it. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design On 10/25/14, 8:45 AM, "Paul Dupuis" wrote: >All, > >I am looking for

Re: Possible bug in LC6.7 - maybe one for Mark Schonewille?

2014-10-25 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Graham, Please, send an e-mail to supp...@economy-x-talk.com. That will put the issue into our system and probably I'll get to have a look a at it next week. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter:

Re: how to disturb newbies

2014-10-25 Thread Jacques Hausser
> > Richard wrote: > I've filed the one you reported here for you: > What I just noticed - thank you ! Jacques ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subs

Re: The Bearer Of Bad News

2014-10-25 Thread Peter Haworth
I use Time machine for local backups and all my LC dev files are on Google Drive so I feel pretty comfortable with recovering any stack files I need. There's another level of recovery I made available in lcStackBrowser. It's not made for backups per se, more in the way of keeping temporary versio

Re: how to disturb newbies

2014-10-25 Thread Mark Wieder
Richard- Saturday, October 25, 2014, 9:27:06 AM, you wrote: > For those willing to dive deeper into improving the documentation, the > team has provided a section on the "Contribute to LiveCode" page on the > format of Dictionary entries, which we can modify directly and submit a > pull request f

Re: how to disturb newbies

2014-10-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Wieder wrote: > Richard- > > Saturday, October 25, 2014, 9:27:06 AM, you wrote: > >> For those willing to dive deeper into improving the documentation, >> the team has provided a section on the "Contribute to LiveCode" >> page on the format of Dictionary entries, which we can modify >> direc

Re: Looking for best practice in switching libraries

2014-10-25 Thread Mark Wieder
Scott- Saturday, October 25, 2014, 9:44:58 AM, you wrote: > Use ³delete stack xyz². > I¹ve run into similar situations before where closing a stack does not > actually remove it from memory. Delete stack should do it. But be VERY CAREFUL with "delete stack"... if you use it on a substack, it w

Re: The Bearer Of Bad News

2014-10-25 Thread Mark Wieder
Colin- Saturday, October 25, 2014, 6:11:57 AM, you wrote: > I have in the past disliked Time Machine. In those days I had a > regular hard drive, and it seemed sometimes that it would take the > full hour to backup, meaning that it was backing up continuously, > and noticeably affecting the respo

Re: The Bearer Of Bad News

2014-10-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
Peter Haworth wrote: > I use Time machine for local backups and all my LC dev files are > on Google Drive so I feel pretty comfortable with recovering any > stack files I need. That redundancy is probably a good idea. Backup services fail, media fails, all sorts of things can happen. Here I

Re: The Bearer Of Bad News

2014-10-25 Thread Colin Holgate
See if this article helps with the time it takes to do TM backups: http://mactips.dwhoard.com/mactips/other-applications/time-machine-slow ___ use-livecode mailing list use-live

Re: how to disturb newbies

2014-10-25 Thread Mark Wieder
Richard- Saturday, October 25, 2014, 10:39:22 AM, you wrote: > Where can I find the "doc editing tool that the team uses", and where is > it made available for community contributors? I forget. I think Mark Waddingham sent it to me or sent me a url or attached it to a bug report or something. I'

Re: The Bearer Of Bad News

2014-10-25 Thread Mark Wieder
Andrew- Friday, October 24, 2014, 10:18:24 PM, you wrote: > Dropbox and backup suggestions aside, I can't help but feel 7.0 was not > ready for primetime. My experience has been giant standalones to cater to > features I don't use, and lackluster performance. I hear what you're saying, and I'm n

Re: The Bearer Of Bad News

2014-10-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Wieder wrote: > Mark Wieder I'm thinking of switching over to Dolly Drive (for > local storage only, not cloud), so I'd welcome any comments > yea or nay that anyone has on that. Have you considered OwnCloud? Space limited only by your hard drive budget, total control, native sync clients

Sort cards doesn't work in 7.0

2014-10-25 Thread Timothy Miller
Sorry about the panic yesterday. My “corrupted” stacks do open in 7.0 and I was able to save a version in format 5.5. They open up just fine in version 6.7. My precious data is retrieved and my backup negligence is forever cured. A tiny problem triggered my panic attack yesterday. That tiny prob

Re: how to disturb newbies

2014-10-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Wieder wrote: > Richard- > > Saturday, October 25, 2014, 10:39:22 AM, you wrote: > >> Where can I find the "doc editing tool that the team uses", and >> where is it made available for community contributors? > > I forget. I think Mark Waddingham sent it to me or sent me a url or > attached i

Re: Looking for best practice in switching libraries

2014-10-25 Thread Paul Dupuis
Thank you Scott & Mark, The libraries I am working with are not substacks, but external stacks, and delete stack works perfectly to remove it from memory. -- Paul On 10/25/2014 1:41 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > Scott- > > Saturday, October 25, 2014, 9:44:58 AM, you wrote: > >> Use ³delete stack xyz²

Re: Sort cards doesn't work in 7.0

2014-10-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
Timothy Miller wrote: > Sorry about the panic yesterday. My “corrupted” stacks do open in 7.0 > and I was able to save a version in format 5.5. They open up just > fine in version 6.7. My precious data is retrieved... Really glad to hear that worked out, Tim. Phil Jimmieson submitted an excelle

Re: The Bearer Of Bad News

2014-10-25 Thread Mark Wieder
Colin- Saturday, October 25, 2014, 10:52:21 AM, you wrote: > See if this article helps with the time it takes to do TM backups: Thanks. I had high hopes for that, but unfortunately that's not what I see. I do see things like 10:00:36 AM com.apple.backupd Starting standard backup 10:00:37 AM com

Re: Sort cards doesn't work in 7.0

2014-10-25 Thread Timothy Miller
On Oct 25, 2014, at 11:17 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Really glad to hear that worked out, Tim. Your kindness is appreciated. > > The result is empty even when the script doesn’t work. > > Doesn't work as in doesn't sort the cards, leaving them in the original order? Precisely. Tim Miller __

Re: The Bearer Of Bad News

2014-10-25 Thread Colin Holgate
Part of that article is to do with Spotlight. Are you sure you don’t have Spotlight set up to index the backup drive? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscripti

Re: Sort cards doesn't work in 7.0

2014-10-25 Thread Mark Wieder
Tim- Saturday, October 25, 2014, 11:17:54 AM, Richard wrote: > Doesn't work as in doesn't sort the cards, leaving them in the original > order? > HmmI wonder if somehow card sorting didn't get the attention it > needs in the string comparison overhaul for Unicode. > > I suppose this migh

Re: Sort cards doesn't work in 7.0

2014-10-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Wieder wrote: I'm with Richard on this - I've never tried to sort cards numeric, and I'm not even sure what I would expect if I tried it. What does or doesn't work now, and what was the result previously? Does/did that sort numerically on the names of the cards or the numbers of the cards? O

Sort cards doesn't work in 7.0 -- troubleshooting bears fruit

2014-10-25 Thread Timothy Miller
On Oct 25, 2014, at 11:31 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: > I'm with Richard on this - I've never tried to sort cards numeric, and > I'm not even sure what I would expect if I tried it. What does or > doesn't work now, and what was the result previously? Does/did that > sort numerically on the names of th

Re: Sort cards doesn't work in 7.0 -- troubleshooting bears fruit

2014-10-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
Timothy Miller wrote: > IIRC, in ancient versions of hyperCard, this kind of sort didn’t > work right if the script encountered a card where the field > containing the sort key was absent. Apparently this anti-feature > has returned to 7.0. > > If I copy the buttons and paste then onto card 2, wh

Re: Sort cards doesn't work in 7.0 -- troubleshooting bears fruit

2014-10-25 Thread Timothy Miller
On Oct 25, 2014, at 12:13 PM, Timothy Miller wrote: > Card 1 of this stack is an index card. A pair of buttons appear on the card > 1, along with other stuff. “Sort cards by name” and “Sort cards by intake > date.” Their function is obvious. I just realized than neither sort command > works.

Re: Sort cards doesn't work in 7.0 -- troubleshooting bears fruit

2014-10-25 Thread Timothy Miller
On Oct 25, 2014, at 12:31 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > I think there may be something else going on than just an empty field. Absent field, not empty field. But it wouldn’t surprise me if something else going on. See my next message on this thread. Tim Miller __

Re: how to disturb newbies

2014-10-25 Thread Peter Haworth
I have a free plugin that allows you to enter your own notes and tags about a dictionary entry. They are local to you so not available to all users. If interested, you can find it at http://www.lcsql.com/free-stuff.html Pete lcSQL Software Home of lcStackBrowser

Re: Possible bug in LC6.7 - maybe one for Mark Schonewille?

2014-10-25 Thread Graham Samuel
Thanks Mark, will do. Graham > On 25 Oct 2014, at 18:48, Mark Schonewille > wrote: > > Hi Graham, > > Please, send an e-mail to supp...@economy-x-talk.com. That will put the issue > into our system and probably I'll get to have a look a at it next week. > > -- > Best regards, > > Mark Scho

Re: setting a behavior with out using an ID

2014-10-25 Thread Peter Haworth
Doesn't address your issue, but I do have a free stack that is useful if you need to make wholesale changes to a behavior id. You can search for all objects with a string in the behavior and replace it with another. If interested, its available at http://www.lcsql.com/free-stuff.html Pete lcSQL

Re: Sort cards doesn't work in 7.0 -- troubleshooting bears fruit

2014-10-25 Thread Jerry Jensen
On Oct 25, 2014, at 12:33 PM, Timothy Miller wrote: > I tried pasting fields “intakeSecs" and “patient name” onto card 1. The > following odd result occurred, > > --sort cards numeric by field “intakeSecs” > > Now works from card 1. > > —sort cards text by bg field "patient name” > > Still

Re: Sort cards doesn't work in 7.0 -- troubleshooting bears fruit

2014-10-25 Thread Timothy Miller
On Oct 25, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Jerry Jensen wrote: > How about trying it without the "bg" in the latter one? Absent-minded me! You were right. Both scripts now work normally on card 1. Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com

Re: how to disturb newbies

2014-10-25 Thread larry
Hi Pete I had your previous plugin and now downloaded the updated one you listed below. GREAT!! Larry P.S. Why can't LC be as smart as you? - Original Message - From: "Peter Haworth" To: "How to use LiveCode" Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 1:44 PM Subject: Re: how to disturb newb

Fwd: RELEASE LiveCode 7.0

2014-10-25 Thread Jim Lambert
BenB wrote: > > We're pleased to announce release of LiveCode 7.0. … > LiveCode 6.7, which was also released today… Two in one day. Yee-Haa! Thanks RunRev! Jim Lambert ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url

Re: The Bearer Of Bad News

2014-10-25 Thread Mark Wieder
Richard- Saturday, October 25, 2014, 10:59:09 AM, you wrote: > Have you considered OwnCloud? Hmmm... thanks for the lead. No, I hadn't. Based on the name I figured they were just another cloud storage thing. And for a number of obvious and non-obvious reasons I have no intention of throwing my f

Re: The Bearer Of Bad News

2014-10-25 Thread Mark Wieder
Colin- Saturday, October 25, 2014, 11:27:39 AM, you wrote: > Part of that article is to do with Spotlight. Are you sure you > don’t have Spotlight set up to index the backup drive? Well, that's special. While I have the Untitled backup drive removed from Spotlight, apparently Spotlight still has

Re: The Bearer Of Bad News

2014-10-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Wieder wrote: > Richard- > > Saturday, October 25, 2014, 10:59:09 AM, you wrote: > >> Have you considered OwnCloud? > > Hmmm... thanks for the lead. No, I hadn't. Based on the name I figured > they were just another cloud storage thing. And for a number of > obvious and non-obvious reasons I

Re: sendmail through On-Rev server

2014-10-25 Thread Paul Hibbert
Thank you Mike, Andrew and Peter, I did end up going with a suggestion from Peter Wood using Rebol, with some help from Peter I now have a working option. Paul On Oct 25, 2014, at 7:05 AM, Mike Bonner wrote: > I used sendmail on diesel a couple weeks ago. It was SLOW, but it worked. > (I set

Re: Looking for best practice in switching libraries

2014-10-25 Thread Phil Davis
For a library stack that's a mainStack, I would always use: stop using stack "my stack" delete stack "my stack" It works regardless of the destroyStack setting of the stack you're removing from memory. Guaranteed. If you want to remove a subStack from memory, you must remove its main

Re: how to disturb newbies

2014-10-25 Thread Kay C Lan
On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 10:57 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: I've found in recent years that Dictionary errors have generally been fixed > almost instantly once notice is submitted, almost always prior to the next > release. > Whilst I can't comment on whether the speed at which Dictionary errors are

Re: Looking for best practice in switching libraries

2014-10-25 Thread Phil Davis
Sorry, I was late to the party! Phil On 10/25/14 7:24 PM, Phil Davis wrote: For a library stack that's a mainStack, I would always use: stop using stack "my stack" delete stack "my stack" It works regardless of the destroyStack setting of the stack you're removing from memory. Guaran

Need info about Mark Cards command...

2014-10-25 Thread Tim Selander
Now that v7 is out, I've started playing with bringing some of my company's (still in use) HyperCard/9to5 Reports systems over to LiveCode. I have a customer database. If I want to pull up all Tokyo customers, mark cards where "Tokyo" is in field "city" is working well. But if I want to pul

Re: Need info about Mark Cards command...

2014-10-25 Thread Jerry Jensen
On Oct 25, 2014, at 10:58 PM, Tim Selander wrote: > > Question 2) How would I use the mark cards, or some other command, to pull up > AND constructs. For example marks cards where "Main Street" AND "Central > Ward" are in field "address" ?? Just an untested guess, but how about: mark cards whe