Re: Location via WiFi on Mobile?

2013-02-06 Thread Scott Rossi
Why is locationChanged more robust than directly querying the sensor? Anyway, the issue still seems to be the same. The devices running iOS 5.1.1 display no data while the iOS 5.1 device does. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design On 2/5/13 10:41 PM, "Monte Gouldin

Re: compatability of rev stacks and livecode stacks in a standalone?

2013-02-06 Thread Richmond
On 02/05/2013 11:59 PM, Robert Sneidar wrote: I was going to say, what is the grammatical significance of beginning a word or name with two F's? Is it pronounced differently than one F? Bob No grammatical significance at all, but a historical one: Names that begin with a double F are origina

Re: OT: Jasper Fforde

2013-02-06 Thread Richmond
On 02/06/2013 03:46 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: Richmond- Tuesday, February 5, 2013, 12:42:48 PM, you wrote: No, I'm not ffamiliar with that man with a ffine sounding name. From Fforde's website, a bit about the Thursday Next series of books, which I wholeheartedly recommend to anyone who still r

Re: ads in the kickstarted page

2013-02-06 Thread Richmond
On 02/06/2013 03:54 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: As is common with YouTube videos, there is a yellow bar that appears in the scrubber of the video controller. It doesn't appear until after a few seconds of the video playing (the "students just get it" one). At 10 seconds an overlay ad appears. Just

Re: Location via WiFi on Mobile?

2013-02-06 Thread Monte Goulding
Robust because the location manager may not have a location still after 1 second. It probably will but it might not. -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! On 06/02/2013, at 7:00 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: > Why is locationChanged more robust than

Re: Location via WiFi on Mobile?

2013-02-06 Thread Scott Rossi
Good point. This reinforces what I've been experiencing: a delay is needed between starting up location services and actually using them. Plus implementing a timeout if there's no usable result after a set period of time. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design On 2/6

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

2013-02-06 Thread David Bovill
Kevin - building automatic default licensing and easy code submission into the open source version would go a long long way to making the open source community effort work. Flickr did this with their built in CC licensing options, I feel it would be important for the OS version of LC to be launched

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

2013-02-06 Thread Colin Holgate
Surely LiveCode itself is made up of lots of files, that can work with GIT perfectly well? Do stacks have to have that ability right away? Won't most open source big LiveCode applications be made of lots of stacks and external files, giving you a certain amount of modularity, even if individual

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

2013-02-06 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi, The biggest project I have ever seen consisted of one 4 GB stack. Due to its size, it was impossible to make a standalone of it :-) I guess such projects aren't optimally organised for GIT. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: ht

Re: Trying to make economic sense of open sourcing livecode

2013-02-06 Thread David Bovill
Interestingly - one of the side effects of the file based export of large stacks for Git repos - is that the monolythic stack gets digested into chunks - this can make it much easier to re-engineer as a lean stack that reads and writes to text files. Also GIT deals very very well with hundreds or

A way to help open-source LiveCode

2013-02-06 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi, The LiveCode open-source initiative is a great idea. I pledged but I was thinking I could pledge more. That's why I'd like to announce that I'll use 50% of all net revenues (= after sales tax) of Installer Maker to back the open-source edition of LiveCode on Kickstarter, provided that the

Re: compatability of rev stacks and livecode stacks in a standalone?

2013-02-06 Thread Robert Sneidar
There you go, that was what I meant. If it was pronounced differently then there is the reason for it. Bob On Feb 6, 2013, at 12:10 AM, Richmond wrote: > On 02/05/2013 11:59 PM, Robert Sneidar wrote: >> I was going to say, what is the grammatical significance of beginning a word >> or name w

Re: OT: Jasper Fforde

2013-02-06 Thread Robert Sneidar
Well... not surprising, since someone from the real world DID write it. ;-) Bob On Feb 6, 2013, at 12:13 AM, Richmond wrote: >> (Seven books so far: The Eyre Affair, Lost in a Good Book, The Well of >> Lost Plots, Something Rotten, First Among Sequels and One of our >> Thursdays is Missing and

past 20%

2013-02-06 Thread Colin Holgate
I was feeling lonely, at the 1800-odd slot, but now have a few companions, including one that just happened. That one took the amount past 20%. Ben is still unused so far, perhaps you should post pictures of him? To get the rich women pledgers out there... ___

Re: Open source, LC server and revigniter

2013-02-06 Thread Robert Mann
Hi fantastic news and bravo to the team... now one more question regarding LC server : Will LC server OS be able to open a protected stack like ZYGODACT which is made to help authentification at sites or to sell softwares, and obviously, that is protected...? If not, will there be a commercial LC

OT: Feb 9 in Pasadena

2013-02-06 Thread Mark Wieder
Richard Gaskin writes: > > The next SoCal LiveCode User Group meeting is coming up next Thursday at > 7PM in Pasadena - details in the LUG section of the LiveCode forums: And if you're in the LA Area, two nights later is a fundraising showing of the Wrecking Crew movie in an attempt to raise t

Re: OT: Feb 9 in Pasadena

2013-02-06 Thread Colin Holgate
I forwarded that to a friend, who in addition to being a LiveCode (or at least Rev) user, was friends with some of the featured musicians. He lives in Santa Cruz, but is in LA sometimes, so maybe he could go to the fundraiser. On Feb 6, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > http://wreckingc

Re: OT: Feb 9 in Pasadena

2013-02-06 Thread Peter Haworth
Hi Mark, I hadn't heard of that movie, thanks for the heads up, I'll definitely check it out. Let me know if anything happens in the Bay Area. Pete lcSQL Software On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > Richard Gaskin writes: > > > > > The next SoCal LiveC

Uninstalling on Windows?

2013-02-06 Thread Scott Rossi
Hi List: What is the best way to set up a Windows installer to handle uninstall of user-generated files? I developed a LiveCode application for Windows that saves settings and progress data to files placed in a couple of locations on the drive (Documents and AppData). I tried to do "the right th

Re: Open source, LC server and revigniter

2013-02-06 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/6/13 1:17 PM, Robert Mann wrote: Hi fantastic news and bravo to the team... now one more question regarding LC server : Will LC server OS be able to open a protected stack like ZYGODACT which is made to help authentification at sites or to sell softwares, and obviously, that is protected...

Re: Uninstalling on Windows?

2013-02-06 Thread Robert Sneidar
I came across this article for using WMIC: http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/2947/windows_uninstall_application_command_line/ If you know the product code, you can uninstall it using vbscript like this: http://www.symantec.com/connect/downloads/uninstall-windows-installer-applications-using-vbscript

Re: Uninstalling on Windows?

2013-02-06 Thread Chris Sheffield
Can the user save the additional files anywhere, or are they only saved to a specific location? If anywhere, not sure how to deal with that. But if they're saved to a specific location, it used to be that Inno Setup had a way to remove an entire folder of files upon uninstalling the application,

Re: Uninstalling on Windows?

2013-02-06 Thread Mark Wieder
Scott Rossi writes: > What is the best way to set up a Windows installer to handle uninstall of > user-generated files? Do you want to do this? I've seen two approaches: the first is to bring up a dialog if there are additional files that weren't part of the original installation asking whether

Re: revOnline down again?

2013-02-06 Thread Mark Wieder
FWIW, I notified support. -- Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/li

Re: Uninstalling on Windows?

2013-02-06 Thread Scott Rossi
Hi Mark: I totally agree, in principle. In my case, the application is a game, and the files to be deleted are text data, which are useless without the application. They don't contain any user created data (i.e. addresses, personal info, etc) they are generated automatically by playing (progress

Re: Uninstalling on Windows?

2013-02-06 Thread Mark Wieder
Scott Rossi writes: > I totally agree, in principle. In my case, the application is a game, and > the files to be deleted are text data, which are useless without the > application. They don't contain any user created data (i.e. addresses, > personal info, etc) they are generated automatically

Android Externals

2013-02-06 Thread Andrew Kluthe
Just to make sure I am correct, there is currently no way to make externals for android? And if that's still the case, why? It's honestly the only thing keeping me from considering livecode as a realistic choice for mobile developement. -- Regards, Andrew Kluthe and...@ctech.me

Re: Android Externals

2013-02-06 Thread Monte Goulding
On 07/02/2013, at 11:33 AM, Andrew Kluthe wrote: > Just to make sure I am correct, there is currently no way to make externals > for android? Yes, you are correct > And if that's still the case, why? I'm not sure. It very nearly happened about 6 months ago but then it didn't. > > It's honestl

Re: Android Externals

2013-02-06 Thread Nicolas Cueto
That's correct. Don't know about the technical reasons why. Perhaps years back, when LC first went mobile, iOS dominance made focusingon it rather than Android better sense financially, given LC's limited resources? Given the OSS initiative now, hearing something definite from LC on Android Extern

Re: Android Externals

2013-02-06 Thread Andrew Kluthe
It's a shame because we use dropbox for some things in one of my in-house desktop apps and we are considering gathering information from the field using android tablets. Dropbox recently released a new SDK for integrating dropbox tighter into your mobile apps. I was asked if this would work nice in

Re: Uninstalling on Windows?

2013-02-06 Thread Robert Sneidar
I would say that between the two extremes, most software uninstalls leave user related files and settings on the computer. For one thing, the uninstall may not be permanent. It may be something the user does to "fix" something that seems wrong to him. For another thing, the user can easily delet

Re: Android Externals

2013-02-06 Thread Monte Goulding
On 07/02/2013, at 11:53 AM, Andrew Kluthe wrote: > Relating to this, no one has talked about it, but what is going to happen > if the kickstarter doesn't succeed? Does that crush all these wonderful > things we are already dreaming about doing with a GPL'd livecode? It could. Isn't that the poin

Re: Android Externals

2013-02-06 Thread Andrew Kluthe
I'm not sure what you mean, monte? If the kickstarter doesn't succeed (people from my company have already backed it), will livecode continue as it has been or close up shop or just take longer for the re-write? On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 7:00 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: > > On 07/02/2013, at 11:53 AM,

Re: Android Externals

2013-02-06 Thread Monte Goulding
On 07/02/2013, at 3:01 PM, Andrew Kluthe wrote: > I'm not sure what you mean, monte? If the kickstarter doesn't succeed > (people from my company have already backed it), will livecode continue as > it has been or close up shop or just take longer for the re-write? I expect it will take a lot lo

Re: Android Externals

2013-02-06 Thread Peter Haworth
It's definitely behind schedule statistically. But I've been involved with a couple of Kickstarter projects and the way it seems to go is: - an initial burst of investors that put it ahead statistically - a mid period where everything just bumbles along quite slowly - a final push in the last few

On-Rev websites

2013-02-06 Thread -= JB
My websites that are located at On-Rev do not load and I am not able to access my C-Panel either. Anyone else having problems? -=>JB<=- ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and mana

Re: On-Rev websites

2013-02-06 Thread Andrew Kluthe
down. :\ On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 11:40 PM, -=>JB <=- wrote: > My websites that are located at On-Rev do not load and > I am not able to access my C-Panel either. > > Anyone else having problems? > > -=>JB<=- > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-liv

Re: On-Rev websites

2013-02-06 Thread -=>JB<=-
Thanks for the info! -=>JB<=- On Feb 6, 2013, at 10:23 PM, Andrew Kluthe wrote: > down. :\ > > On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 11:40 PM, -=>JB <=- wrote: > >> My websites that are located at On-Rev do not load and >> I am not able to access my C-Panel either. >> >> Anyone else having problems? >> >

Re: On-Rev websites

2013-02-06 Thread David Glass
No apparent issues on thor. My site and c-panel are working. On 02/06/2013 9:40 PM, -=>JB <=- wrote: My websites that are located at On-Rev do not load and I am not able to access my C-Panel either. Anyone else having problems? -=>JB<=- -- David Glass - Gray Matter Computing graymattercom

Re: On-Rev websites

2013-02-06 Thread Matthias Rebbe
Hi Andrew. Tested here with accounts on freyr.on-rev.com var. on-rev.com canary.on-rev.com These servers are running w/o problems. Regards, Matthias -- Matthias Rebbe matthias (at) rebbe.tk Tel +49.5741.31 Tel +49.160.5504462 -- Am 07.02.2013 um 06:40 schrieb -=>JB <=- : > My website

Re: Android Externals

2013-02-06 Thread Monte Goulding
On 07/02/2013, at 3:25 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: > - a final push in the last few days where things pick up because of last > minute efforts and people on the sidelines who are waiting to see how much > to contribute to make it happen Hmm... I'm hoping for all the stretch goals not just scrapin

Re: On-Rev websites

2013-02-06 Thread -=>JB<=-
You and David Glass are not having problems and I thank you both for replying. But I am still down. I have seen it before where some are down and can't access cpanel but I was okay. What causes problems like that? -=>JB<=- On Feb 6, 2013, at 11:16 PM, Matthias Rebbe wrote: > Hi Andrew. > >