AW: AW: want you error expertise

2012-02-17 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hi Ruslan, I didn't tested it in the IDE, I tested in a standalone environment and removed the files from my app folder of the standalone. Thanks Tiemo > > > > I tried to remove the Valentina dlls on my computer with interesting > > results. > > > Removing all these folders and Dlls just didn't

Re: AW: want you error expertise

2012-02-17 Thread Ruslan Zasukhin
On 2/17/12 10:38 AM, "Tiemo Hollmann TB" wrote: Hi Tiemo, > not BEFORE Valentina_Init, but WHILE Valentina_Init. This is the last > executed statement, so I couldn't set the debug level in the next statement. > LiveCode produced a crashlog at exact this statement, but with no other > informatio

AW: want you error expertise

2012-02-17 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hi Ruslan, not BEFORE Valentina_Init, but WHILE Valentina_Init. This is the last executed statement, so I couldn't set the debug level in the next statement. LiveCode produced a crashlog at exact this statement, but with no other information The windows system crash log just shows some generic cra

AW: want you error expertise

2012-02-17 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
2 19:38 > An: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Betreff: Re: want you error expertise > > Hi Tiemo! > > Are you working with HTMLText? Maybe even larger amounts? > > I had this in an app. It crashed almost immediately when a larger amount of > HTMLText was set. The reason wa

Re: AW: want you error expertise

2012-02-16 Thread Richard Gaskin
Tiemo Hollmann wrote: Would you say that LC programs today crash more often as programs of other languages in your experience, or is it just my personal experience? With features comes complexity, and with complexity comes bugs. I once knew a programmer of a commercial product whose manager ac

Re: AW: want you error expertise

2012-02-16 Thread Ruslan Zasukhin
On 2/16/12 7:37 PM, "Tiemo Hollmann TB" wrote: > Hi Bernard, > thank you for your useful advices, yes win has crash-(event-)logs. I will > give them first a try (just forgot them with my last cases) and keep my own > logging as plan B Also must be possible I think on windows, To ask for some inf

Re: want you error expertise

2012-02-16 Thread Ruslan Zasukhin
On 2/16/12 7:27 PM, "Bernard Devlin" wrote: Hi Barnard, > By the way, I found that Valentina 4.7 is the last version that is > usable for Livecode.  Ruslan is aware of the defects I encountered.  I > assume a later version will fix those problems. > > Others may well be using 4.8, 4.9 or 5.0 wi

Re: want you error expertise

2012-02-16 Thread Malte Brill
Hi Tiemo! Are you working with HTMLText? Maybe even larger amounts? I had this in an app. It crashed almost immediately when a larger amount of HTMLText was set. The reason was a memory leak in using HTMLText with 4.6.4 that had been fixed with 5.0. The workaround for 4.6.4 was to have a space

AW: want you error expertise

2012-02-16 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode- > boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Tiemo Hollmann TB > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. Februar 2012 18:39 > An: 'How to use LiveCode' > Betreff: AW: want you error expertise > > Good idea! > > > > Thinking abo

AW: want you error expertise

2012-02-16 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Good idea! > > Thinking about a crash before a debuglevel can be set, it seems that > debugging should be on by default, then switched off when an app is > successfully loaded. I will bear that in mind for my own logging in > the future. > > Bernard > _

AW: want you error expertise

2012-02-16 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
> boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Bernard Devlin > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. Februar 2012 18:22 > An: How to use LiveCode > Betreff: Re: want you error expertise > > 1. Does LC on Windows not produce a crash log the way it does on OS X? > I would look at that if it

Re: want you error expertise

2012-02-16 Thread Bernard Devlin
By the way, I found that Valentina 4.7 is the last version that is usable for Livecode.  Ruslan is aware of the defects I encountered.  I assume a later version will fix those problems. Others may well be using 4.8, 4.9 or 5.0 without facing the defects I faced.  It's just a question of which feat

Re: want you error expertise

2012-02-16 Thread Bernard Devlin
1. Does LC on Windows not produce a crash log the way it does on OS X? I would look at that if it exists. On OS X I've found these logs to be quite useful in tracking down crashes (mostly, in recent years, in my experience these crashes have related to externals). 2. If the log does not exist or

AW: want you error expertise

2012-02-16 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hi Richard, it's really interesting to read your experiences, nice intro of Scott Raney :) About video drivers I havn't though of at all yet. But I will put it on my check list. With the messageMessages could be indeed the last try, good to know. Because of my program crashes right at launching ho

Re: want you error expertise

2012-02-16 Thread Richard Gaskin
Tiemo Hollmann wrote: from time to time I have customers where my LC 4.6.4 program crashes on windows machines right away when launching. The only error message is the generic windows message "windows has encountered a problem". I know that this can happen from everything. Installation without

want you error expertise

2012-02-15 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hello, from time to time I have customers where my LC 4.6.4 program crashes on windows machines right away when launching. The only error message is the generic windows message "windows has encountered a problem". I know that this can happen from everything. Installation without enough permission