Re: some thoughts on version 9.0.0

2018-04-20 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
As has been pointed out in the Forums: as new LiveCode versions come out with new capabilities and new features quite a few of the features available in previous versions are removed: this may well be, as has been explained, the necessary cost of the new features. About 4 years ago I had to 90%

Re: some thoughts on version 9.0.0

2018-04-20 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
> On 21 Apr 2018, at 7:54 am, Douglas Ruisaard via use-livecode > wrote: > > Maybe, Panos... BUT what if someone (like me!) is using one of those > "disappearing" inks (sorry for the pun!). The number of inks which were > removed is HUGE! I'm supposed to go back to all of my project and

Re: some thoughts on version 9.0.0

2018-04-20 Thread Douglas Ruisaard via use-livecode
Maybe, Panos... BUT what if someone (like me!) is using one of those "disappearing" inks (sorry for the pun!). The number of inks which were removed is HUGE! I'm supposed to go back to all of my project and live apps and find and replace them??? I don't think so! Doug >>>Hi all,

Re: some thoughts on version 9.0.0

2018-04-20 Thread James Hale via use-livecode
My error. Yes the first badge takes you to the now empty behavior button. BUT the second badge does indeed open the script only stack. no bug, just me not moving further along the chain of badges. The badges follow along the chain as advertised. >> On 20 Apr 2018, at 1:41 pm, James At The Ha

Re: some thoughts on version 9.0.0

2018-04-20 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Hi all, The inks that were removed were legacy inks which were deprecated a long time ago, and were not supported in the version of Skia library that LC 9.0 uses. Best, Panos -- On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 11:20 AM, Keith Martin via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 19 Apr 2

Re: some thoughts on version 9.0.0

2018-04-20 Thread Keith Martin via use-livecode
On 19 Apr 2018, at 17:00, Douglas Ruisaard via use-livecode wrote: Next is the significant decrease in the "Ink" choices... I've found (by process of elimination) the "notSrcOrReverse" ink works for me in several situations there ain't no such thing in v9.0.0. Yep, I found that strange an

Re: some thoughts on version 9.0.0

2018-04-19 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
> On 20 Apr 2018, at 2:27 pm, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > wrote: > > Another disadvantage is that you can't debug them remotely, which for some > projects means you can't debug remotely at all. You can use the breakpoint command can’t you? There is a general issue here that we have in

Re: some thoughts on version 9.0.0

2018-04-19 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 4/19/18 10:41 PM, James At The Hale via use-livecode wrote: One downer I have noticed with the advent of behaviors being in script only stacks is you lose the ability to edit them when you click on the behavior badge. Another disadvantage is that you can't debug them remotely, which for s

Re: some thoughts on version 9.0.0

2018-04-19 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
> On 20 Apr 2018, at 1:41 pm, James At The Hale via use-livecode > wrote: > > One downer I have noticed with the advent of behaviors being in script only > stacks is you lose the ability to edit them when you click on the behavior > badge. > > If the behavior resides in a button, as before,

Re: some thoughts on version 9.0.0

2018-04-19 Thread James At The Hale via use-livecode
One downer I have noticed with the advent of behaviors being in script only stacks is you lose the ability to edit them when you click on the behavior badge. If the behavior resides in a button, as before, all is well. Recently while looking into something with the data grid I noticed all the

Re: some thoughts on version 9.0.0

2018-04-19 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
> On 20 Apr 2018, at 10:28 am, Mark Wieder via use-livecode > wrote: > > On 04/19/2018 03:03 PM, Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode wrote: > >> actually the problem was that if you use the number of lines of the >> behaviors and you have a couple of behaviors stacked then the space needed >>

Re: some thoughts on version 9.0.0

2018-04-19 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 04/19/2018 03:03 PM, Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode wrote: actually the problem was that if you use the number of lines of the behaviors and you have a couple of behaviors stacked then the space needed for the behaviors would run into the text. The current solution was the one which used

Re: some thoughts on version 9.0.0

2018-04-19 Thread Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode
Mark Wieder via use-livecode Thu, 19 Apr 2018 13:46:24 -0700 > >On 04/19/2018 01:15 PM, Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode wrote: > >the number 1 indicates that this is the first behavior. Behaviors can be >stacked and then you would have 2,3 or whatever up to ten behaviors. The >number >of lines

Re: some thoughts on version 9.0.0

2018-04-19 Thread gcanyon via use-livecode
Self-promotion: Navigator's script menu displays all the behaviors, and the handlers in them, of an object. The theoretical limit is 100,000 stacked behaviors, but I suspect the menu system would break before reaching that limit. You need to

Re: some thoughts on version 9.0.0

2018-04-19 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 04/19/2018 01:15 PM, Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode wrote: the number 1 indicates that this is the first behavior. Behaviors can be stacked and then you would have 2,3 or whatever up to ten behaviors. The number of lines is useful for the object but not so much for the behavior. The toolt

Re: some thoughts on version 9.0.0

2018-04-19 Thread Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode
I use the Project Browser heavily ... one change in 9.0.0 I definitely DO NOT like is the "new" way of indicating a "behavior" assignment on an object. What's with the little oval with a "1" in it??? I used the (previous) line counts to visually match to the "source" button line counts.. easy... n

some thoughts on version 9.0.0

2018-04-19 Thread Douglas Ruisaard via use-livecode
I use the Project Browser heavily ... one change in 9.0.0 I definitely DO NOT like is the "new" way of indicating a "behavior" assignment on an object. What's with the little oval with a "1" in it??? I used the (previous) line counts to visually match to the "source" button line counts.. easy.