Indeed our split isn't perfect - so there's a list of things we can and cannot
do - depending on which engine version is needed to support the changes - this
forces a good process (because it forces thought on it).
The submodule link is a version dependence - it's just hard to think of it like
> On 31 Jul 2017, at 6:59 am, Mark Wieder via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Actually, submodules actually do their job really quite well. They aren't
>> ideal, but they do enforce modularity (hence the name ;)). We just need to
>> get round to sorting out some tooling (local shell scripts /
> Monte wrote:
> I’m not really sure that A/B tests of the IDE is something we should be
> attempting to do at all as we don’t have the resources to do it with the
> number of people required to get decent data.
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> On 31 Jul 2017, at 6:56 am, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
> wrote:
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> I'm just wondering, should I wait for the A/B test sequences or just throw a
> current version at him?
Well there’s not much point doing A/B tests unless you have a decent size group
to gather data on which performed
I don't believe there is anything that is "risk free".
HOWEVER, I am looking to set up programming classes throughout the year
starting in October, at which point I should
have both:
1. Kids with NO programming experience whatsover.
2. Kids with experience in either Visual BASIC and/or C++.
On 07/29/2017 03:49 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote:
Actually, submodules actually do their job really quite well. They
aren't ideal, but they do enforce modularity (hence the name ;)). We
just need to get round to sorting out some tooling (local shell scripts
/ git hooks) to help m
On 7/30/17 3:32 PM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote:
On 31 Jul 2017, at 5:09 am, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
wrote:
Do you need test subjects or do you need to observe them directly? I have a
neighbor who would be ideal. I was thinking I could watch him (with my mouth
firmly shut
On 07/29/2017 03:59 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote:
I have a thick skin, I can happily ignore such grumblings;
I'm not sure that's the proper response to the grumblings
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> On 31 Jul 2017, at 5:09 am, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> Do you need test subjects or do you need to observe them directly? I have a
> neighbor who would be ideal. I was thinking I could watch him (with my mouth
> firmly shut) and take notes on what happens.
>
> He's curren
On 7/30/17 12:16 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote:
**How can all our existing users help with our user testing?
Well, the above approach has one further *really* useful aspect. For any
licenses which are not marked with a test funnel (or indeed are marked
with a dead test funnel) we
On 2017-07-30 01:04, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote:
I’m actually not sure I see the connection between the ide submodule
and the 8.1.6-rc-2.
Heh - the connection is indirect, however it is definitely there!
**The goal:
We want to do A/B testing on LiveCode's 'first run' experience. Th
om)> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 07/29/2017 01:59 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: >> FWIW I
> have it on my phone and open on my desktop so I get >> notifications and
> respond if I know the answer. Usually it’s “Have you >> updated
>
> On 30 Jul 2017, at 8:59 am, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> I'd rather suffer internal grumblings from our team due to having to have an
> IDE submodule, than much larger shouts from our users when we make an error
> like we did in 8.1.6-rc-2. I have a thick skin, I can happil
On 2017-07-30 00:53, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote:
On 30 Jul 2017, at 8:49 am, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
wrote:
However, the IDE submodule is set to stay (despite various discussions
about merging it internally - I've always said no, and I'm glad I
have) - indeed, the fact it
> On 30 Jul 2017, at 8:49 am, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> However, the IDE submodule is set to stay (despite various discussions about
> merging it internally - I've always said no, and I'm glad I have) - indeed,
> the fact it is a separate submodule helps to put in place a
On 2017-07-30 00:10, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote:
Have I mentioned lately how much I hate submodules?
Have I mentioned lately how much I hate submodules? ;)
Actually, submodules actually do their job really quite well. They
aren't ideal, but they do enforce modularity (hence the name ;
On 07/29/2017 01:59 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote:
FWIW I have it on my phone and open on my desktop so I get
notifications and respond if I know the answer. Usually it’s “Have you
updated submodules?” ;-)
Its not just on Gitter that sentence gets uttered a lot - it also occurs
On 2017-07-29 22:51, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote:
As we get more contributors gitter will become more active and you
will be able to answer many of the questions for each other. There’s
little point expecting a great deal of chatter if there’s only half a
dozen people outside the
> On 30 Jul 2017, at 1:01 am, Mark Wieder via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> On 07/29/2017 01:44 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote:
>> P.S. None of us tend to sit on gitter.io <http://gitter.io/> - we can only
>> process so many simultaneous inputs -
On 2017-07-29 21:00, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote:
Yeah. That's what I was trying to say.
I know - I just thought I'd take the opportunity to be a little more
blunt about it since you gave me the hook to do so - i.e. gitter is not
a route to get direct tech support from our
On 07/29/2017 08:38 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote:
Well Gitter itself is posed as more a technical/open source software dev thing
I think.
Peter set it up as a more modern form of irc channels where people contributing
to the open source project can interact with us and others
Well Gitter itself is posed as more a technical/open source software dev thing
I think.
Peter set it up as a more modern form of irc channels where people contributing
to the open source project can interact with us and others along those lines.
For that it works really well. There can be a
On 07/29/2017 01:44 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote:
P.S. None of us tend to sit on gitter.io - we can only process so many
simultaneous inputs - however gitter does send email notifications when
someone posts something on there and usually it doesn't take too long
for one of
Hey folks,
The #livecode channel on the Freenode IRC network hasn't become very
popular, so I've been looking for an alternative community instant
messaging solution.
Several people contacted me to suggest using Gitter, so I've now set up
a community for LiveCode users
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