Re: changes to the run rev store

2012-08-20 Thread Monte Goulding
Kevin has stated that they will work on the page to make it all clearer. I don't think it's all that complicated. Just a new option. I think pay as you go is great. It's cheaper to keep updated which is better for everyone. Cheers -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There

Re: changes to the run rev store

2012-08-20 Thread Peter Haworth
It seems to me from the conversations in this thread that RunRev's pricing is way, way to complicated. Either that or it's just not explained very well. I just took a look at Real Studio's Edition Comparison chart, it being the closest thing I can find to Livecode (yes I know it doesn't do mobile

Re: changes to the run rev store

2012-08-20 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Richmond wrote: > Can one buy a version of Livecode 'outright' so to speak; insofar as once > one has bought > the version and downloaded it onto physical media, one can go on using it > to develop software > for as long as one wants? > Yes, that is the perpetual

Re: changes to the run rev store

2012-08-20 Thread Richmond
All the replies to my questions are very charming, but don't really answer a simple question: Can one buy a version of Livecode 'outright' so to speak; insofar as once one has bought the version and downloaded it onto physical media, one can go on using it to develop software for as long as o

Re: changes to the run rev store

2012-08-20 Thread Mike Bonner
This is true with "gold" perpetual (it seems) but complete does include updates for a year. Of course complete has a 1500 dollar buy in and and then 749 per year after that. (id does include the dev program of course) Seems to me if a) you don't already own complete, and/or b) don't need the devel

Re: changes to the run rev store

2012-08-20 Thread Matthias Rebbe
Oh, i have to correct myself: It looks like not all perpetual licenses do include upgrades for a year. Very strange. But i was right with the PayAsYouGo licenses. They expire after the "payed time". You do not buy, but you do rent the license. Runrev´s definition: The Pay as you Go package ha

Re: changes to the run rev store

2012-08-20 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Richmond wrote: > 1. I get LC + upgrades for a year, and then all the versions I have bought > in that year "turn into pumpkins at the stroke of midnight" and stop > working? > No, that's the monthly subscription. 2. I get LC + upgrades for a year, and upgrades

Re: changes to the run rev store

2012-08-20 Thread Richmond
On 08/20/2012 07:26 PM, Matthias Rebbe wrote: Yes and no. The PayAsYouGo licenses do expire after a year. It´s similar to the new Adobe subscription modell. Just see it as renting software. That license model is new. Ouch! Now does that mean: 1. I get LC + upgrades for a year, and then all t

Re: changes to the run rev store

2012-08-20 Thread Richmond
On 08/20/2012 07:01 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Wait, you are saying that when the LC license expires you are no longer capable of developing with it?? Is that true? Maybe I'm being a bit thick, BUT: 1. I sometimes use my Mac Dreamcard from some 9 years ago - in fact I have had it while 3 Macs ha

Re: changes to the run rev store

2012-08-20 Thread Matthias Rebbe
Yes and no. The PayAsYouGo licenses do expire after a year. It´s similar to the new Adobe subscription modell. Just see it as renting software. That license model is new. The perpetual license does not expire. You will get new updates for one year. After that you have to purchase a renewal for

Re: changes to the run rev store

2012-08-20 Thread Bob Sneidar
Wait, you are saying that when the LC license expires you are no longer capable of developing with it?? Is that true? Bob On Aug 19, 2012, at 2:08 AM, Nigel Soden wrote: > Greetings >> Or, you could be like me and develop software with whatever version of >> Livecode you already own and not