Re: Two features I don't understand

2014-10-31 Thread Bob Sneidar
That settles it. Richard Gaskin is an Alien Android!! Bob S On Oct 31, 2014, at 10:40 , Richard Gaskin mailto:ambassa...@fourthworld.com>> wrote: That said, I tend to be somewhat obsessive about performance because I see every nanosecond saved as a penny in a bank account; over time I can sav

Re: Two features I don't understand

2014-10-31 Thread Richard Gaskin
Always valuable to read your words here, Fraser. Meeting you was one of the key highlights for me at the conference. You wrote: > Internally, the field is structured somewhat like this(*): > > - Field >- Paragraph 1 >- Run 1 >- Run 2 >- Paragraph 2 > > and the styledTex

Re: Two features I don't understand

2014-10-31 Thread Richard Gaskin
Alex Tweedly wrote: On 31/10/2014 04:04, Richard Gaskin wrote: What I find most remarkable is the way your benchmark makes the value of this ID caching seem rather trivial. ... It is a trivial example - but the speed-up of 50X seems significant. In relative terms it certainly seems so, but i

Re: Two features I don't understand

2014-10-31 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 30 Oct 2014, at 18:36, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > 2. StyledText array > Pages 16-18 of the v5.5.4 Release Notes: > > > Anyone here use this? Is it faster than doing equivalent operations on > htmlText? While the style

Re: Two features I don't understand

2014-10-31 Thread Richard Gaskin
Dr. Hawkins wrote: > so does styledText even have a purpose any more? Should it > be treated as deprecated? It seems it serves a very different purpose than htmlText. It's a new addition and folks find it useful, so I wouldn't expect it to be deprecated. Trevor DeVore wroteL > I use styled

Re: Two features I don't understand

2014-10-31 Thread Alex Tweedly
On 31/10/2014 04:04, Richard Gaskin wrote: Alex Tweedly wrote: H - I said this once before :-) :-) My apologies for the inconvenience. I'd either missed it before or completely forgot about it, but the latter seems unlikely given how remarkable the post was: Oh Richard - I even thre

Re: Two features I don't understand

2014-10-31 Thread tbodine
The improved field control of LC 5.4 and 6.0 and up has been extremely useful to me. I use StyledText Array in much the same way as Trevor -- applying format changes. And metadata attached to field chunks is a great feature that's very useful for educational content creators. Overall, the field c

Re: Two features I don't understand

2014-10-31 Thread Bob Sneidar
My guess would be data grids and anything using behaviors. Bob S On Oct 30, 2014, at 21:04 , Richard Gaskin mailto:ambassa...@fourthworld.com>> wrote: What I find most remarkable is the way your benchmark makes the value of this ID caching seem rather trivial. I trust this was a one-liner, a

Re: Two features I don't understand

2014-10-31 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > Rightly so, according to the inventor of the LiveCode engine: Dr. Raney > once explained to me that the purpose of htmlText is to provide an > easily-manipulatable way to faithfully reproduce the entire contents and > styles within a fie

Re: Two features I don't understand

2014-10-31 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote: > If I could remember well enough how to find things on Nabble or Gmane, I'd > just point to the original thread - but since I can't and am in a hurry - > here's a message I sent to this list on 12/05/2013. There are *very* few sites who can

Re: Two features I don't understand

2014-10-31 Thread Michael Doub
I am sorry to report that the pageranges property of fields is still broken in 7.0. Create a field and place this in a button: on mouseUp put empty into fld 1 set the height of fld 1 to 60 repeat with i = 1 to 10 put i & cr after fld 1 end repeat set the spaceabove line 2

Re: Two features I don't understand

2014-10-31 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > 2. StyledText array > Pages 16-18 of the v5.5.4 Release Notes: > > > Anyone here use this? Is it faster than doing equivalent operations on > htmlText? While the sty

Re: Two features I don't understand

2014-10-31 Thread Ali Lloyd
Regarding id caching, I had an idea that one might be able to use it to emulate the performance gain of a 'repeat for each...' style structure on controls. Referencing a control by number or name will iterate through the controls of the card until it gets to the specified one. Thus a loop of the f

Re: Two features I don't understand

2014-10-30 Thread Richard Gaskin
Monte Goulding wrote: > On 31 Oct 2014, at 2:55 pm, Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> If RunRev needed this themselves, they've done a good >> job of concealing why. :) Copying styled text works >> great with htmlText. > > Richard if you remember originally styledText supported > a few things that htmlT

Re: Two features I don't understand

2014-10-30 Thread Monte Goulding
On 31 Oct 2014, at 2:55 pm, Richard Gaskin wrote: > If RunRev needed this themselves, they've done a good job of concealing why. > :) Copying styled text works great with htmlText. Richard if you remember originally styledText supported a few things that htmlText didn't and people complained

Re: Two features I don't understand

2014-10-30 Thread Richard Gaskin
Alex Tweedly wrote: On 30/10/2014 18:36, Richard Gaskin wrote: 1. ID caching Page 10 of the v6.0 Release Notes: The description there says: The engine now caches lookups of control references of the form “card id ...”

Re: Two features I don't understand

2014-10-30 Thread Richard Gaskin
Michael Doub wrote: > I use the styled arrays quite often when creating content, applying > styles and taking advantage of the metadata. Thanks. I still don't understand how I might use it, but I'm glad someone's using it. RunRev don't generally spend time on a feature unless there's either

Re: Two features I don't understand

2014-10-30 Thread Alex Tweedly
On 30/10/2014 18:36, Richard Gaskin wrote: 1. ID caching Page 10 of the v6.0 Release Notes: The description there says: The engine now caches lookups of control references of the form “card id ...” and “control id ...”

Re: Two features I don't understand

2014-10-30 Thread Michael Doub
I use the styled arrays quite often when creating content, applying styles and taking advantage of the metadata. I can’t comment on the speed. I have a tendency to think in terms of arrays so this is pretty comfortable for me. I did a lot of work using space above and below and was real

Two features I don't understand

2014-10-30 Thread Richard Gaskin
1. ID caching Page 10 of the v6.0 Release Notes: The description there says: The engine now caches lookups of control references of the form “card id ...” and “control id ...”. This speeds up any access using those