Re: The Linux engine...

2012-02-27 Thread Richard Gaskin
Graham Samuel wrote: > Just a quick two Eurocents to say that I strongly agree that we > should not split up the list, and I agree with Malte's arguments. I don't think we need to worry about that. Those who want to lighten their In Box and enjoy platform-specific discussion will find the forum

Re: The Linux engine...

2012-02-26 Thread Graham Samuel
Just a quick two Eurocents to say that I strongly agree that we should not split up the list, and I agree with Malte's arguments. I know nothing about Linux, and like many things I know nothing about, I'm scared of it - but one day I may need to know more and if and when that happens I would wan

Re: The Linux engine...

2012-02-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
Malte Brill wrote: > Right now I am in a situation where I MUST support Linux as a > platform of choice for my customers. Welcome to the club. I used to be a Mac-only guy, and I used to resent having to work in Windows. But the more platforms I use xTalks on, the easier they all get. These

Re: The Linux engine...

2012-02-25 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Richmond, Thanks for the CAD links. Once again you've shown your value to the list. (smile) I had not heard of either MEDUSA4 and Draftsight. Joe Wilkins Architect On Feb 25, 2012, at 11:57 AM, Richmond wrote: > On 02/25/2012 08:27 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: >> Frankly, Richmond, though I a

Re: The Linux engine...

2012-02-25 Thread Malte Brill
Thanks for all who chimed in, especially Richard for the very detailed post. A few thoughts on Joes suggestion first... I do not think it would be a good idea to split the list into platform specific ones. We would all use a lot of expertise, as if the lists are devided people will tend to only

Re: The Linux engine...

2012-02-25 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Warren, what can I say! I have a meeting with a young man from China tomorrow and I guess that is where my mind is. I guess it is probably Sunday where he lives right now. (smile) Regardless, that is still my opinion. Joe Wilkins Architect On Feb 25, 2012, at 11:56 AM, Warren Samples wrote: >

Re: The Linux engine...

2012-02-25 Thread Richmond
On 02/25/2012 09:56 PM, Warren Samples wrote: On 02/25/2012 12:27 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Just MHO on a Sunday morning, Joe Wilkins Architect It's Saturday. Religious fervour? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Pl

Re: The Linux engine...

2012-02-25 Thread Richmond
On 02/25/2012 08:27 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Frankly, Richmond, though I almost always enjoy your commentaries, I would really like to see LC lists for both Linux and iOS diverted to special lists for those two topics; particularly as newbies to either of these variants of LC "stumble" thei

Re: The Linux engine...

2012-02-25 Thread Warren Samples
On 02/25/2012 12:27 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Just MHO on a Sunday morning, Joe Wilkins Architect It's Saturday. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscrip

Re: The Linux engine...

2012-02-25 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
tting the Linux version up to spec. >> Perhaps when the home team can see the same ROI from the Linux >> engine as they clearly do with the mobile platforms, it will be a >> different story. >> >> As much as I personally dislike the mobile platforms, it's hard to

Re: The Linux engine...

2012-02-25 Thread Richmond
. Perhaps when the home team can see the same ROI from the Linux engine as they clearly do with the mobile platforms, it will be a different story. As much as I personally dislike the mobile platforms, it's hard to deny or complain about the growth in both LC user base and new revenue.

Re: The Linux engine...

2012-02-25 Thread DeeCee
he home team can see the same ROI from the Linux engine as they clearly do with the mobile platforms, it will be a different story. As much as I personally dislike the mobile platforms, it's hard to deny or complain about the growth in both LC user base and new revenue. DeeCee -- Vie

Re: The Linux engine...

2012-02-24 Thread Richmond
On 02/23/2012 11:20 AM, Malte Brill wrote: Thanks for the feedback so far guys. Andre: I also have that impression. Now, what can we do to get it up to speed? With Linux I am always unsure if I just forgot to install something that LC depends on. A simple example: Under UBUNTU an app of mine j

(OT) Re: The Linux engine...

2012-02-23 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
ge in context: > http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/The-Linux-engine-tp4410393p4414496.html > Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.run

Re: The Linux engine...

2012-02-23 Thread Tim Jones
Hmmm, SunOS and X11R4? Tim On Feb 23, 2012, at 10:02 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > You know what would be great? If someone wrote a graphics engine based > entirely upon PDF! Yeah that would be the ticket! And then, you could print > directly to PDF because everything would already be in the correc

Re: The Linux engine...

2012-02-23 Thread Peter Alcibiades
nd don't have any issues like >this. >Warren -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/The-Linux-engine-tp4410393p4414496.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ u

Re: The Linux engine...

2012-02-23 Thread Bob Sneidar
You know what would be great? If someone wrote a graphics engine based entirely upon PDF! Yeah that would be the ticket! And then, you could print directly to PDF because everything would already be in the correct format! Yeah! ;-) Bob On Feb 23, 2012, at 5:37 AM, Warren Samples wrote: > On 0

Re: The Linux engine...

2012-02-23 Thread Bob Sneidar
7;s problem? Who cares? You have to > be able to read the IDE to use it. > > Peter > > -- > View this message in context: > http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/The-Linux-engine-tp4410393p4413072.html > Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive

Re: The Linux engine...

2012-02-23 Thread Richard Gaskin
even though that OS has am 87% share. So I feel the level of effort RunRev puts into their Linux engine is admirable in many respects, provided they're able to meet a baseline of core competence for deployment on that platform. The good thing about the Linux engine situation is one of

Re: The Linux engine...

2012-02-23 Thread Warren Samples
On 02/23/2012 01:50 AM, Peter Alcibiades wrote: I've more or less stopped using Rev because I only use Linux, and having got a 22 inch monitor, I simply can't read most of the IDE unless I reset screen resolution to much lower resolution. Or put on reading glasses which brings its own problems.

Re: The Linux engine...

2012-02-23 Thread Warren Samples
On 02/23/2012 03:20 AM, Malte Brill wrote: I figured out so much that this is a GNOME (working) versus KDE (not working) thing. What really scares me is the exit on signal 11 issue. How does one debug that??? Not that this is of any practical value, but this is an issue with compositing. If

Re: The Linux engine...

2012-02-23 Thread Malte Brill
Thanks for the feedback so far guys. Andre: I also have that impression. Now, what can we do to get it up to speed? With Linux I am always unsure if I just forgot to install something that LC depends on. A simple example: Under UBUNTU an app of mine just looks like it should. No problem with th

Re: The Linux engine...

2012-02-22 Thread Peter Alcibiades
ution.278305.n4.nabble.com/The-Linux-engine-tp4410393p4413072.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage

Re: The Linux engine...

2012-02-22 Thread Pierre Sahores
Hi Malte, In short : The engine is rock solid and as unbreakable as you can expect (cgi mode, shell interface and all non GUI uses). The IDE is a little more capricious but nothing insurmountable after some arrangement against the X11 desktop GUI (KDE, Gnome). About OpenSuse : just my prefer

Re: The Linux engine...

2012-02-22 Thread Andre Garzia
Malte, I think the linux engine and IDE is not as good as their siblings on MacOS X and Windows. The redraw routines used to be slower than the others but I haven't tested it since the latest graphical reorganization. But with MacOS X getting more and more like iOS and Windows being Windo

The Linux engine...

2012-02-22 Thread Malte Brill
Hi all, I know a few of you are using Linux as a primary platform. As I am rather green with Linux, I wonder if you care to share your experiences regarding robustness of the engine. I sometimes peek at the IDE under UBUNTU and wonder if I can rely on the engine the same way I can under Mac an