Re: The Future of LiveCode in Education

2016-03-01 Thread RM
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Re: The Future of LiveCode in Education

2016-03-01 Thread Alejandro Tejada
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Re: The Future of LiveCode in Education

2016-03-01 Thread RM
On 1.03.2016 07:01, Colin Holgate wrote: I’m trying to figure out which bit of information you mistyped. 1983 would be fairly late for getting an Apple II, but 1983 was before the Mac was released, and the Mac II didn’t come out until early 1987 I think. Your remembered date is also four yea

Re: The Future of LiveCode in Education

2016-03-01 Thread RM
If we're talking about the “The Future of LiveCode in Education” we ought to consider programming as a tool for exploration. Jim 90% of programming-for-education should be exploration rather than coding-qua-coding as about 90% of school kids are probably not going to go onto caree

Re: The Future of LiveCode in Education

2016-02-29 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
It's been a long time... and to be sure my memory is probably way off... still: But we have this from 1986 and I thought (I certainly could be wrong) I was already coding in Hypercard for some time ( a year or so I think at least) before this: http://dev.himalayanacademy.com/media/art/photogra

Re: The Future of LiveCode in Education

2016-02-29 Thread Colin Holgate
I’m trying to figure out which bit of information you mistyped. 1983 would be fairly late for getting an Apple II, but 1983 was before the Mac was released, and the Mac II didn’t come out until early 1987 I think. Your remembered date is also four years before HyperCard was released. It could b

Re: The Future of LiveCode in Education

2016-02-29 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
I think it was circa 1983, I was in San Franscisco... our spiritual master, Gurudeva, called from Hawaii saying "Your Apple II is coming any day. You need to sign up for some classes right away... this it the future." When it came... I think the 3rd thing I did after booting up was start Hyper

Re: The Future of LiveCode in Education

2016-02-29 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/29/2016 3:03 PM, Jeff Reynolds wrote: So how about LC community shipping on all education macs? or on all macs for that matter? I think Jacqueline hit it on the head that it being there and easy to start playing with were the key to HC and the Mac’s success! Apple needs to continue this trad

Re: The Future of LiveCode in Education

2016-02-29 Thread Jim Hurley
“The Future of LiveCode in Education” we ought to consider programming as a tool for exploration. Jim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Re: The Future of LiveCode in Education

2016-02-29 Thread Monte Goulding
But a minute x 30 computers for an already overworked class teacher or under funded school tech just to do an hour of code type lesson may not happen. Ideally there might be an intermediate step between Scratch and the full LC IDE using a HTML5 IDE to introduce the language and advertise the ful

Re: The Future of LiveCode in Education

2016-02-29 Thread Jim Byrnes
On 02/29/2016 02:16 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: William Prothero wrote: > Richard; > Agreed. Perhaps it’s my age. Yes, of course it won’t be a good > strategy to compare Livecode to Hypercard. I only brought it up in > an attempt to contrast the wide early adoption of Hypercard by > educators

Re: The Future of LiveCode in Education

2016-02-29 Thread Richard Gaskin
Monte Goulding wrote: > My son regularly immerses in Scratch. There’s a couple of things > that make it a good learning environment beyond the drag and drop > code blocks: > - web based so no download and install for schools without the >resources to do that easily > - a tightly integrated

Re: The Future of LiveCode in Education

2016-02-29 Thread William Prothero
Jeff: Hmm…. I am developing an app, rewritten from Director, that I am calling “Earth Explorer”. Am I infringing? I probably got hold of you CDROM in the ancient past, though. My first version of my “Earth Explorer” app (was named differently then) was actually written in Hypercard. Then porte

Re: The Future of LiveCode in Education

2016-02-29 Thread Jeff Reynolds
Yes was true for me as well even though i had programmed in a few different languages in the past. At the time HC came out i was in grad school {molecular biology) and not programming. After 10 minutes of looking at HC and poking at it i realized how much fun and useful things i could do so quic

Re: The Future of LiveCode in Education

2016-02-29 Thread William Prothero
Richard: Agreed. It always seemed odd to me that I had to rebuild, for every app, standard UI interfaces that most folks use. The Widgets capability in LC is masterful. It’s definitely a biggie. My problem is getting my friends to actually try Livecode. I think I’ll need to do a bit of demo-ing

Re: The Future of LiveCode in Education

2016-02-29 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 1 Mar 2016, at 7:16 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > Right now we see Scratch used for some of that, but the boundaries of any > point-and-click system are encountered pretty quickly. For young users it > can be a good starting point, but most outgrow it fairly quickly. My son regularly im

Re: The Future of LiveCode in Education

2016-02-29 Thread Richard Gaskin
William Prothero wrote: > Richard; > Agreed. Perhaps it’s my age. Yes, of course it won’t be a good > strategy to compare Livecode to Hypercard. I only brought it up in > an attempt to contrast the wide early adoption of Hypercard by > educators, to the current environment where there are so many

Re: The Future of LiveCode in Education

2016-02-29 Thread William Prothero
Richard; Agreed. Perhaps it’s my age. Yes, of course it won’t be a good strategy to compare Livecode to Hypercard. I only brought it up in an attempt to contrast the wide early adoption of Hypercard by educators, to the current environment where there are so many choices and also where knowledge

Re: The Future of LiveCode in Education

2016-02-29 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/29/2016 1:25 PM, William Prothero wrote: By the way, I too have pondered the popularity that Hypercard was able to achieve and compared it to Livecode. Certainly, a subset of livecode and hypercard are pretty identical. So, why isn’t it easier to get excited about it? HyperCard took off be

Re: The Future of LiveCode in Education

2016-02-29 Thread Richard Gaskin
William Prothero wrote: > For those already familiar with other programming languages (I’m > in that group), the syntax may look archaic and put folks off. It > did me, at first. I was used to Fortran, Pascal, C, Lingo, etc, > and the Hypercard syntax just seemed primitive compared to modern > ob

Re: The Future of LiveCode in Education

2016-02-29 Thread William Prothero
Stephen: Wonderful work you’ve done with Livecode and medical education. FYI, there’s a forum topic at; http://forums.livecode.com/viewforum.php?f=107 The forum addresses the topic of getting teachers involved. Your introductory book on livecode

Re: The Future of LiveCode in Education

2016-02-29 Thread stgoldb...@aol.com
What does LiveCode need to do to significantly increase its audience among teachers and students of computer programming? I taught medical students for 25 years at the University of Miami School of Medicine. LiveCode has provided an opportunity to further improve medical education. My stu