Re: Storing and saving a setting in a stand alone

2015-01-17 Thread Kay C Lan
On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 3:43 AM, Richmond wrote: I can imagine a scenario where somebody uses an app both at work and at > home and for > security reasons carries the app around in their pocket on a USB > flash-drive or an SD card > and wants the data to ride with it. > Not sure that makes sense

Re: Storing and saving a setting in a stand alone

2015-01-17 Thread William Prothero
It wouldn’t occur to me to save data within the executable code (UI) area. For my purposes, I’d only save data in a separate file, mysql light db, or online mysql db. Apple has a folder in the Library folder called “Application Support”. That’s where I put preferences, licenses, and stuff that d

Re: Storing and saving a setting in a stand alone

2015-01-17 Thread Jerry Jensen
On Jan 16, 2015, at 7:22 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Among those who've never used HyperCard, how many people would think of > saving data bound to the UI? Harumph. Programs go in the card reader and data goes on the tape drive. ___ use-livecode mai

Re: Storing and saving a setting in a stand alone

2015-01-17 Thread Mark Wieder
Richard- Saturday, January 17, 2015, 11:40:48 AM, you wrote: > Mark Rauterkus wrote: >> Q asked: Among those who've never used HyperCard, how many people would >> think of saving data bound to the UI? >> >> My $.02: LOTS and LOTS of mere mortals. > I can see the attraction to it, esp. in cases w

Re: Storing and saving a setting in a stand alone

2015-01-17 Thread Richmond
On 17/01/15 21:40, Richard Gaskin wrote: Mark Rauterkus wrote: Q asked: Among those who've never used HyperCard, how many people would think of saving data bound to the UI? My $.02: LOTS and LOTS of mere mortals. I can see the attraction to it, esp. in cases where you're building a quickie a

Re: Storing and saving a setting in a stand alone

2015-01-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Rauterkus wrote: Q asked: Among those who've never used HyperCard, how many people would think of saving data bound to the UI? My $.02: LOTS and LOTS of mere mortals. I can see the attraction to it, esp. in cases where you're building a quickie ad hoc solution with no vision for later ve

Re: Storing and saving a setting in a stand alone

2015-01-17 Thread Mark Rauterkus
Hi, Q asked: Among those who've never used HyperCard, how many people would think of saving data bound to the UI? My $.02: LOTS and LOTS of mere mortals. -- Ta. Mark Rauterkus mark.rauter...@gmail.com PPS Summer Dreamers' Swim and Water Polo Camp Head Coach Varsity Boys Swim Coach, Pit

Re: Storing and saving a setting in a stand alone

2015-01-16 Thread Peter Haworth
Count 1 for me. Never considered saving user data in the application folder. Just seems weird. On Jan 16, 2015 7:23 PM, "Richard Gaskin" wrote: > This thread about "splash stacks" has me wondering: > > Among those who've never used HyperCard, how many people would think of > saving data bound to

Re: Storing and saving a setting in a stand alone

2015-01-16 Thread Scott Rossi
Kay: The following won’t address the issue of the RunRev article you cite needing to be updated, which clearly needs to happen. But it might help you to know that there are really two different issues being addressed here: saving stack data, and making an updatable stack. While the splash scr

Re: Storing and saving a setting in a stand alone

2015-01-16 Thread Richard Gaskin
This thread about "splash stacks" has me wondering: Among those who've never used HyperCard, how many people would think of saving data bound to the UI? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for Desktop, Mobile, and Web _

Re: Storing and saving a setting in a stand alone

2015-01-16 Thread Kay C Lan
Jacque, it's more likely I'm confused. You and Richard are the experts here so I tend to be wary if I'm going against the flow. The original post simply asked about Saving User preferences. Unfortunately there was no mention of OS, nor was there any mention that it used to 'working for ages up un

Re: Storing and saving a setting in a stand alone

2015-01-16 Thread Richard Gaskin
Kay C Lan wrote: This problem comes up when those new to programming and/or LC follow an example How-To that doesn't work for all platforms and/or goes against OS guidelines. Saving User Data is a basic app requirement, the example given should work on ALL platforms. IMO if the How-To example u

Re: Storing and saving a setting in a stand alone

2015-01-15 Thread AndyP
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Re: Storing and saving a setting in a stand alone

2015-01-15 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 1/15/2015 9:31 PM, Kay C Lan wrote: Yes Scott,you are right it's still a valid method, but it's not a method that works for all platforms and for a product who's key feature is that it is cross platform, desktop and mobile, I see it being counter productive to provide an example that isn't.

Re: Storing and saving a setting in a stand alone

2015-01-15 Thread Kay C Lan
On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 8:40 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: On the contrary, as the rest of your post points out, it's increasingly > useful as OS file system permissions get ever more restrictive. > Yes Scott,you are right it's still a valid method, but it's not a method that works for all platforms

Re: Storing and saving a setting in a stand alone

2015-01-15 Thread Richard Gaskin
Kay C Lan wrote: * It would probably be wise for RunRev to remove any mention of the Splash Stack method on their how-to site as it is clearly not an approach that should be used any more. On the contrary, as the rest of your post points out, it's increasingly useful as OS file system permissi

Re: Storing and saving a setting in a stand alone

2015-01-15 Thread Scott Rossi
RunRev may need to edit the description of the method but why remove it? What is preventing developers from placing their primary stacks in the Documents folder or any other writable folder? AFAICT, using the splash stack technique is still valid, but you may not be able to save the stack in a

Re: Storing and saving a setting in a stand alone

2015-01-15 Thread Kay C Lan
On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 3:57 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > Why do you suppose this has survived so long with no one discovering it > until now? > Whilst I may be a Mac fanboy, I'm definitely anti-iOSing of OS X. That said, one of the few side effects may be the herding of LCers to store User dat

Re: Storing and saving a setting in a stand alone

2015-01-15 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 1/15/2015 2:54 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: my main project is still done in LC 6.5.x Oops, that should be 6.6.5. I'm not THAT far behind. ;) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com

Re: Storing and saving a setting in a stand alone

2015-01-15 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 1/15/2015 1:57 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 1/15/2015 10:05 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: >> While the absence of reports related to general file access in the >> bundle would seem to suggest this change was implemented well in the >> engine, René's report shows this w

Re: Storing and saving a setting in a stand alone

2015-01-15 Thread Richard Gaskin
J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 1/15/2015 10:05 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: >> While the absence of reports related to general file access in the >> bundle would seem to suggest this change was implemented well in the >> engine, René's report shows this workaround for Apple's new security >> policy need

Re: Storing and saving a setting in a stand alone

2015-01-15 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 1/15/2015 10:05 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: While the absence of reports related to general file access in the bundle would seem to suggest this change was implemented well in the engine, René's report shows this workaround for Apple's new security policy needs to be added to the SQLite external

Re: Storing and saving a setting in a stand alone

2015-01-15 Thread Peter Haworth
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 8:05 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Hanson's confirmation there suggests they're working on it now, and given > how widely SQLite is used I'd be surprised if the fix isn't in the next > build. Hopefully they will take the opportunity to get the SQLite library up to date. C

Re: Storing and saving a setting in a stand alone

2015-01-15 Thread Richard Gaskin
René Micout wrote: >> Le 15 janv. 2015 à 15:17, dunbarx at aol.com a écrit : >> >> You know, recently I tried to make a "splash" standalone in 6.7, >> the first I needed to in a while (the last was in 5.x) and it >> would not work. I thought it was something I was doing wrong, >> but was not on m

Re: Storing and saving a setting in a stand alone

2015-01-15 Thread René Micout
> Le 15 janv. 2015 à 15:17, dunb...@aol.com a écrit : > > Rene. > > > OOOH. > > > You know, recently I tried to make a "splash" standalone in 6.7, the first I > needed to in a while (the last was in 5.x) and it would not work. I thought > it was something I was doing wrong, but was not on m

Re: Storing and saving a setting in a stand alone

2015-01-15 Thread Richard Gaskin
Shawn Blc wrote: Can someone point me in the right direction? I want to save a setting in stand alone application. This setting will be different for each person (name). Once it's set, the user won't be prompted to enter again. OSes don't allow applications to modify themselves. Back in the

Re: Storing and saving a setting in a stand alone

2015-01-15 Thread dunbarx
e, but how could it have gone unnoticed? Craig -Original Message- From: René Micout To: How to use LiveCode Sent: Thu, Jan 15, 2015 9:14 am Subject: Re: Storing and saving a setting in a stand alone > Le 15 janv. 2015 à 15:08, dunb...@aol.com a écrit : > > Hi. > >

Re: Storing and saving a setting in a stand alone

2015-01-15 Thread René Micout
> Le 15 janv. 2015 à 15:08, dunb...@aol.com a écrit : > > Hi. > > > Are you talking about the fact that a single stack, which is the executable > if you save it as a standalone, cannot save to itself? If so, there are > several threads on the forums that address this. My favorite is the "spla

Re: Storing and saving a setting in a stand alone

2015-01-15 Thread dunbarx
on Craig Newman -Original Message- From: Shawn Blc To: How to use LiveCode Sent: Thu, Jan 15, 2015 8:28 am Subject: Storing and saving a setting in a stand alone Can someone point me in the right direction? I want to save a setting in stand alone application. This setting will be dif

Storing and saving a setting in a stand alone

2015-01-15 Thread Shawn Blc
Can someone point me in the right direction? I want to save a setting in stand alone application. This setting will be different for each person (name). Once it's set, the user won't be prompted to enter again. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@