Re: Stack Menu Mystery - Disappointing Documentation (Long, sorry)

2014-11-25 Thread Bob Sneidar
Still sketchy about the last time you actually created a menu from scratch using the menu builder but no matter. Rolling your own works fine. I just don’t want new users to feel that there is a problem if there currently is not. Bob S On Nov 25, 2014, at 13:29 , John Dixon mailto:dixo...@hotm

RE: Stack Menu Mystery - Disappointing Documentation (Long, sorry)

2014-11-25 Thread John Dixon
Always have done... I have always found it to be clunky and difficult to use... scripting menus in SuperCard on the other hand always seemed to be intuitive and easy to manipulate... > From: bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com > To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Subject: Re: Stack Men

Re: Stack Menu Mystery - Disappointing Documentation (Long, sorry)

2014-11-25 Thread Bob Sneidar
Are you saying you still have problems with the menu builder? Bob S On Nov 25, 2014, at 12:15 , John Dixon mailto:dixo...@hotmail.co.uk>> wrote: The menu builder has been a problem since runRev's beginnings... it would pay them to look at 'superCard', they have building menus 'down pat'...:-)

Re: Stack Menu Mystery - Disappointing Documentation (Long, sorry)

2014-11-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
John Dixon wrote: Richard Gaskin wrote: Bob Sneidar wrote: > And along with that we should probably have the Menu Builder > automatically create File and Edit menus complete with the > script commands that make them work. Maybe. It's a tough call with a toolkit as flexible as LiveCode, since

Re: Stack Menu Mystery - Disappointing Documentation (Long, sorry)

2014-11-25 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 11/25/2014, 2:15 PM, John Dixon wrote: The menu builder has been a problem since runRev's beginnings... What problems do you see? Just curious, since I've been using it without any trouble for some time. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software

Re: Stack Menu Mystery - Disappointing Documentation (Long, sorry)

2014-11-25 Thread J. Landman Gay
Bob Sneidar wrote: And along with that we should probably have the Menu Builder automatically create File and Edit menus complete with the script commands that make them work. Another way to get the same result is to copy an existing menu group and paste it into another stack. -- Jacqueline

RE: Stack Menu Mystery - Disappointing Documentation (Long, sorry)

2014-11-25 Thread John Dixon
The menu builder has been a problem since runRev's beginnings... it would pay them to look at 'superCard', they have building menus 'down pat'...:-) > Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 12:09:07 -0800 > From: ambassa...@fourthworld.com > To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com

Re: Stack Menu Mystery - Disappointing Documentation (Long, sorry)

2014-11-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
Bob Sneidar wrote: And along with that we should probably have the Menu Builder automatically create File and Edit menus complete with the script commands that make them work. For instance Save will save the current stack, Copy will copy whatever is currently selected, etc. We can code it now

Re: Stack Menu Mystery - Disappointing Documentation (Long, sorry)

2014-11-25 Thread Bob Sneidar
Nice. And along with that we should probably have the Menu Builder automatically create File and Edit menus complete with the script commands that make them work. For instance Save will save the current stack, Copy will copy whatever is currently selected, etc. We can code it now, but with many

Re: Stack Menu Mystery - Disappointing Documentation (Long, sorry)

2014-11-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
Bob Sneidar wrote: > There is a checkbox in the menu builder called Set as Stack Menu bar. > I’m wondering if that is what everyone means by a stack menu? Stack menus are far more primitive than that, going back to the very early days of MetaCard in which making a menu meant laying out b

Re: Stack Menu Mystery - Disappointing Documentation (Long, sorry)

2014-11-25 Thread Bob Sneidar
There is a checkbox in the menu builder called Set as Stack Menu bar. I’m wondering if that is what everyone means by a stack menu? If so, it seems that in order for your application to look and feel like a *real* app, you will need to employ this, at least for some apps. I have never heard of

Re: Stack Menu Mystery - Disappointing Documentation (Long, sorry)

2014-11-24 Thread Graham Samuel
Hi Bob I was just trying to find out what a stack menu IS. I don’t know whether you can build one with the menu builder or not, but what I was looking for was an explanation as to the what, the why and the how. I suppose the how might have included menu builder. When I start a new project I

Re: Stack Menu Mystery - Disappointing Documentation (Long, sorry)

2014-11-24 Thread Bob Sneidar
Why aren’t we using the menu builder again? Bob S On Nov 22, 2014, at 06:45 , Graham Samuel mailto:livf...@mac.com>> wrote: I’ve been using LC for a long time but I’ve never used a stack menu. I now find that I can’t understand the documentation of the stack menu in the LC User Gu

Re: Stack Menu Mystery - Disappointing Documentation (Long, sorry)

2014-11-23 Thread Graham Samuel
Bug 14082 - BTW, I don’t regard the entry as actually erroneous, just incomplete and misleading! Graham > On 22 Nov 2014, at 21:27, Graham Samuel wrote: > > OK will do. > > G > > Sent from my iPad > >> On 22 Nov 2014, at 17:19, Richard Gaskin wrote: >> >> Graham Samuel wrote: >> >>> Tha

Re: Stack Menu Mystery - Disappointing Documentation (Long, sorry)

2014-11-22 Thread Graham Samuel
OK will do. G Sent from my iPad > On 22 Nov 2014, at 17:19, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > Graham Samuel wrote: > > > Thanks Richard, I rather suspected what you say might be true. I do > > however think the documentation of this feature is a bit of disgrace > > - really I could have dismissed the

Re: Stack Menu Mystery - Disappointing Documentation (Long, sorry)

2014-11-22 Thread Richard Gaskin
Graham Samuel wrote: > Thanks Richard, I rather suspected what you say might be true. I do > however think the documentation of this feature is a bit of disgrace > - really I could have dismissed the whole idea after one reading if > the description was more complete and had better examples. It

Re: Stack Menu Mystery - Disappointing Documentation (Long, sorry)

2014-11-22 Thread Graham Samuel
. Thanks again Graham > On 22 Nov 2014, at 16:33, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > Graham Samuel wrote: > > I’ve been using LC for a long time but I’ve never used a stack menu. ... > > I don’t know how I can use this to make the stack menu ‘look like a > > standard menu’ > >

Re: Stack Menu Mystery - Disappointing Documentation (Long, sorry)

2014-11-22 Thread Richard Gaskin
Graham Samuel wrote: > I’ve been using LC for a long time but I’ve never used a stack menu. ... > I don’t know how I can use this to make the stack menu ‘look like a > standard menu’ You can't. Stack menus were originally the only way to make menus in MetaCard, fine for when it

Stack Menu Mystery - Disappointing Documentation (Long, sorry)

2014-11-22 Thread Graham Samuel
I’ve been using LC for a long time but I’ve never used a stack menu. I now find that I can’t understand the documentation of the stack menu in the LC User Guide. I have tried to follow it to produce a test app, and I’ve got this far. I’m using LC7.0.1 (rc2) on a Mac with Yosemite. I’ve made a

Re: How to set "Set as stack Menu bar"?

2014-03-04 Thread Mark Wieder
Richard- Paying the bills is so overrated. -- -Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com This communication may be unlawfully collected and stored by the National Security Agency (NSA) in secret. The parties to this email do not consent to the retrieving or storing of this communication and any rela

Re: How to set "Set as stack Menu bar"?

2014-03-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Wieder wrote: So of course I had to go click on Tips. Yeah, not real useful. Clicking on RevJournal isn't very rewarding either. Yeah, that's definitely a known issue, as it feeds from LiveCodeJournal.com where my new CMS hasn't been fully put into place yet. I have a replacement RevNet

Re: How to set "Set as stack Menu bar"?

2014-03-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
Shawn Blc wrote: > Just don't click on Tips. I've actually never explored this goRevNet > section ... thanks for mentioning it. Just don't click on TIPS (at > least in 6.6 dp1) I guess that's a coy way of filing a bug report. My email address isn't hard to find, but if you need it in the futu

Re: How to set "Set as stack Menu bar"?

2014-03-04 Thread Mark Wieder
Shawn- Tuesday, March 4, 2014, 8:24:16 PM, you wrote: > Just don't click on Tips. I've actually never explored this goRevNet > section ... thanks for mentioning it. Just don't click on TIPS (at least > in 6.6 dp1) So of course I had to go click on Tips. Yeah, not real useful. Clicking on RevJo

Re: How to set "Set as stack Menu bar"?

2014-03-04 Thread Shawn Blc
--- available in the Stacks section of RevNet - in the IDE see Development->Plugins->GoRevNet --- Just don't click on Tips. I've actually never explored this goRevNet section ... thanks for mentioning it. Just don't click on TIPS (at least in 6.6 dp1) On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Richard Ga

AW: How to set "Set as stack Menu bar"?

2014-03-04 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
How to set "Set as stack Menu bar"? > > Tiemo Hollmann wrote: > > > Where can I see all properties of an object (in this case of the stack). > > To see the names of all properties and messages that pertain to a given object > type, open the Dictionary and clic

Re: How to set "Set as stack Menu bar"?

2014-03-03 Thread Richard Gaskin
Tiemo Hollmann wrote: Where can I see all properties of an object (in this case of the stack). To see the names of all properties and messages that pertain to a given object type, open the Dictionary and click the object type in the left-hand list. To see the values of all properties for a

Re: How to set "Set as stack Menu bar"?

2014-03-03 Thread Mark Schonewille
on "set as stack menu bar", so that the menu bar isn't shown in the stack window, but replaces the OS X menu. Now I would like to set this option by script, so that the menu switches to the OS X menu only in a standalone and not in the development environment. I don't find the

How to set "Set as stack Menu bar"?

2014-03-03 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hi, In the menu builder window you can check the option "set as stack menu bar", so that the menu bar isn't shown in the stack window, but replaces the OS X menu. Now I would like to set this option by script, so that the menu switches to the OS X menu only in a standalone

Re: Stack Menu

2013-08-20 Thread Peter Haworth
Thansk Jacques, I'll try the "ancient" trick. I tried switching traversalOn off and that did prevent the initial highlight but had some other undesired visual effect, too difficult to explain in words. Pete lcSQL Software On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 1:30 PM, J. Landman Gay w

Re: Stack Menu

2013-08-20 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 8/20/13 2:26 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: Just tried that and no luck unfortunately. I can live with it the way it is but it means I will have to relayer a bunch of controls which will be in a pain since they're in groups. There's an ancient trick where you create a tiny editable object, make

Re: Stack Menu

2013-08-20 Thread Peter Haworth
Just tried that and no luck unfortunately. I can live with it the way it is but it means I will have to relayer a bunch of controls which will be in a pain since they're in groups. Pete lcSQL Software On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Devin Asay wrote: > > On Aug 20, 20

Re: Stack Menu

2013-08-20 Thread Devin Asay
On Aug 20, 2013, at 12:36 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: > I'm using the feature to name a stack to display when a menu is clicked > instead of showing the values in the menu button's text. > > All works great except that when the stack is displayed, the button with > the lowest layer is hilited. I'd

Stack Menu

2013-08-20 Thread Peter Haworth
I'm using the feature to name a stack to display when a menu is clicked instead of showing the values in the menu button's text. All works great except that when the stack is displayed, the button with the lowest layer is hilited. I'd prefer that no buttons are hilited at that point but haven't b