Re: serial numbers on standalones

2013-03-17 Thread Anthony Howe
Hiya Jacqueline, As far as my understanding goes, it's like this: 1. libURL looks after any internet requests from an LC app to an internet server and has basic support for manual proxy configuration via the HTTPProxy function. e.g. "set the HTTPProxy to "127.0.0.0:80"" However, a lot of user

Re: serial numbers on standalones

2013-03-17 Thread Anthony Howe
Hiya Jacqueline, As far as my understanding goes, it's like this: 1. libURL looks after any internet requests from an LC app to an internet server and has basic support for manual proxy configuration via the HTTPProxy function. e.g. "set the HTTPProxy to "127.0.0.0:80"" However, a lot of user

Re: serial numbers on standalones

2013-03-17 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 3/17/13 9:06 PM, Anthony Howe wrote: If you are distributing cross platform software to users inside organisations that use firewalls and proxy servers, and then intend to attach an internet based registration service to your product, using LiveCode as the underlying application engine do it,

Re: serial numbers on standalones

2013-03-17 Thread Gerry Orkin
...or at least some evidence-based modality :) Gerry On 18/03/2013, at 1:06 PM, Anthony Howe wrote: > I strongly suggest signing up for a life membership to your nearest > acupuncture, ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Ple

Re: serial numbers on standalones

2013-03-17 Thread Anthony Howe
DRM, online licensing, is all fantastic and great stuff. There are a number of great iterations out there, and I can vouch for the quality of Mark's spicekit solution. It totally rocks. Massive caveat: If you are distributing cross platform software to users inside organisations that use fir

Re: serial numbers on standalones

2013-03-17 Thread Mark Talluto
On Mar 17, 2013, at 12:56 AM, Richmond wrote: > On 03/16/2013 10:42 PM, Mark Talluto wrote: >> >> On Mar 16, 2013, at 1:07 PM, Richmond wrote: >> >>> If one does not tie a piece of software to a piece of hardware there is >>> probably no way to prevent multiple copies being distributed acros

Re: serial numbers on standalones

2013-03-17 Thread Mark Talluto
On Mar 16, 2013, at 1:30 PM, Timothy Miller wrote: > You've convinced me (unless someone later on this thread changes my mind). > > With software, it seems, one way to limit piracy damage is to upgrade > routinely. With literature, it might help to release periodic revisions, or > regularly

Re: serial numbers on standalones

2013-03-17 Thread kee nethery
On Mar 17, 2013, at 12:56 AM, Richmond wrote: > On 03/16/2013 10:42 PM, Mark Talluto wrote: >> >> On Mar 16, 2013, at 1:07 PM, Richmond wrote: >> >>> If one does not tie a piece of software to a piece of hardware there is >>> probably no way to prevent multiple copies being distributed acros

Re: serial numbers on standalones

2013-03-17 Thread Richmond
On 03/16/2013 10:42 PM, Mark Talluto wrote: On Mar 16, 2013, at 1:07 PM, Richmond wrote: If one does not tie a piece of software to a piece of hardware there is probably no way to prevent multiple copies being distributed across many machines. The trick is to tie the software to more than

Re: serial numbers on standalones

2013-03-16 Thread Mark Talluto
On Mar 16, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: > This goes a bit farther, though: the filing attorney's name and > address must be on these pleadings. The primary license key provided > to the client gets decrypted at runtime with the user's public key. > providing the name and address for th

Re: serial numbers on standalones

2013-03-16 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Mark Talluto wrote: > On Mar 16, 2013, at 9:52 AM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: > >> Using someone else's key will also put their name and address on the >> output, which is only useful for filing with the court . . . > > We used a technique similar to that years ago. I f

Re: serial numbers on standalones

2013-03-16 Thread Mark Talluto
On Mar 16, 2013, at 1:07 PM, Richmond wrote: > If one does not tie a piece of software to a piece of hardware there is > probably no way to prevent multiple copies being distributed across many > machines. The trick is to tie the software to more than one piece of hardware. -Mark _

Re: serial numbers on standalones

2013-03-16 Thread Timothy Miller
On Mar 16, 2013, at 12:00 PM, kee nethery wrote: > The people who make a lot of money selling software are those that focus on > how to get more people to use their software, not those who focus on how to > get less people to use their software. > > The "get more people" group occasionally wi

Re: serial numbers on standalones

2013-03-16 Thread Richmond
On 03/16/2013 09:33 PM, Mark Talluto wrote: On Mar 16, 2013, at 11:09 AM, Richmond wrote: It does seem that all the extra fuss and work involved sorting out a serial number system is hardly worth the effort. The amount of effort is dependent on situation. Of course . . . one could send out

Re: serial numbers on standalones

2013-03-16 Thread Mark Talluto
On Mar 16, 2013, at 11:09 AM, Richmond wrote: > It does seem that all the extra fuss and work involved sorting out a serial > number system is hardly > worth the effort. The amount of effort is dependent on situation. > Of course . . . one could send out a standalone of a stack to find out o

Re: serial numbers on standalones

2013-03-16 Thread kee nethery
On Mar 16, 2013, at 9:52 AM, "Dr. Hawkins" wrote: > > Using someone else's key will also put their name and address on the > output, which is only useful for filing with the court . . . Unless you are postal mailing the software to your customers AND looking at every order before you create a

Re: serial numbers on standalones

2013-03-16 Thread Richmond
On 03/16/2013 07:51 PM, Mark Talluto wrote: On Mar 16, 2013, at 9:52 AM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: Using someone else's key will also put their name and address on the output, which is only useful for filing with the court . . . We used a technique similar to that years ago. I figured that no respe

Re: serial numbers on standalones

2013-03-16 Thread Mark Talluto
On Mar 16, 2013, at 9:52 AM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: > Using someone else's key will also put their name and address on the > output, which is only useful for filing with the court . . . We used a technique similar to that years ago. I figured that no respectable doctor would want the practice nam

Re: serial numbers on standalones

2013-03-16 Thread tbodine
>One of the messages that decrypts at runtime will have the attorney >name, bar (law license) number, address, and program serial number, >all of which appear in the output--with the name, and serial number >actually appearing on the copyright notice on each page of output. >Using someone else's

Re: serial numbers on standalones

2013-03-16 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 6:42 AM, Björnke von Gierke wrote: > > Make standalone with a custom property that contains dummy string, for > example 16 chars >long. Now use a stack, script or other means to find that dummy string in the >standalone, and >replace it with a "proper" license string that

Re: serial numbers on standalones

2013-03-16 Thread Björnke von Gierke
I think it should also be possible to alter an existing custom property in a standalone, as long as the replacement text is the same length in bytes as the one you replace. This is because there's no redundancy caching in the stack file format. Better ask RunRev support if that's still true befo

Re: serial numbers on standalones

2013-03-16 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi, You can append a string to the end of a Windows executable and add a file with a string to an OSX application package. You could use a standalone on which you drop an executable or application package and automate the process. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting

Re: serial numbers on standalones

2013-03-16 Thread kee nethery
Instead of user name, I recommend using their email. Why? Because my user name is Richard Hawkins but my email is k...@kagi.com (if I want to receive the app you are going to send to me). "Richard Hawkins" On Mar 15, 2013, at 10:00 PM, Peter Bogdanoff wrote: > Richard, > > You could... > >

Re: serial numbers on standalones

2013-03-15 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 3/15/13 8:35 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Paul Hibbert wrote: I can fully recommend Jacque's Zygodact, its on the RunRev store. It's easy to set up and it is possible to integrate with PayPal if you have an On-Rev account or use revServer. It's both more and le

Re: serial numbers on standalones

2013-03-15 Thread Peter Bogdanoff
Richard, You could... 1. If you have a limited number of installations, you could store internally a list of keys, then issue one of them to each user. If it matches one of the internal list, it's good. 2. You could have a separate program with an algorithm that creates keys in a particular p

Re: serial numbers on standalones

2013-03-15 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Paul Hibbert wrote: > I can fully recommend Jacque's Zygodact, its on the RunRev store. It's easy > to set up and it is >possible to integrate with PayPal if you have an On-Rev account or use >revServer. It's both more and less than I need :) I've pretty much d

Re: serial numbers on standalones

2013-03-15 Thread Peter Haworth
+1 Pete lcSQL Software On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Paul Hibbert wrote: > I can fully recommend Jacque's Zygodact, its on the RunRev store. It's > easy to set up and it is possible to integrate with PayPal if you have an > On-Rev account or use revServer. > > Jacque's

Re: serial numbers on standalones

2013-03-15 Thread Paul Hibbert
I can fully recommend Jacque's Zygodact, its on the RunRev store. It's easy to set up and it is possible to integrate with PayPal if you have an On-Rev account or use revServer. Jacque's own site is http://www.hyperactivesw.com There's some info and a demo video that's well worth watching. Pau