Re: What If... scenario for Open Source Livecode

Yes, there is a maximum amount for any one pledge, by one person. Kickstarter is a crowd funding site, and it is set up so that venture capitalists cannot simply contribute the balance and take control of a project. So we need everyone to contribute something. Regards, (and thanks to everyone

Re: What If... scenario for Open Source Livecode

On 02/11/2013 05:42 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: Kickstarter pledges are a certain amount, or more, aren't they? If someone donated 76.1% of the money today, that ought to be accepted automatically. Why do I have a funny feeling if a company like Apple or Microsoft did that there would be unaccep

Re: What If... scenario for Open Source Livecode

I believe that there is a limit of a maximum pledge of $10,000. On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 10:42 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: > Kickstarter pledges are a certain amount, or more, aren't they? If someone > donated 76.1% of the money today, that ought to be accepted automatically. > > > On Feb 10, 2013

Re: What If... scenario for Open Source Livecode

Kickstarter pledges are a certain amount, or more, aren't they? If someone donated 76.1% of the money today, that ought to be accepted automatically. On Feb 10, 2013, at 10:36 PM, Alejandro Tejada wrote: > What if February 28th a big company like Apple decides to contribute > all the money lef

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Oh, right. -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig On Jan 29, 2013, at 5:15 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote: > On 29/01/2013 20:31, Peter M. Brigham wrote: >> ... With an expression that is exclusively "ands" the first one that >> evaluates to false settles the value

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On 29/01/2013 20:31, Peter M. Brigham wrote: ... With an expression that is exclusively "ands" the first one that evaluates to false settles the value of the expression as false, and the engine stops there and returns the value. With "or" expressions, all the clauses have to be checked in order

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Well, both "and and "or" expressions are one expression, but you are right that my comment only applies to the "and" operator. The engine is very parsimonious and quits when it has enough info to evaluate the expression. With an expression that is exclusively "ands" the first one that evaluates

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I believe if you change that to or, you will throw an error. Or at least you should! Thinking about this, it may be simpler to think of AND comparisons a single expressions and OR comparisons as delimiting multiple expressions. In a SINGLE LOGICAL EXPRESSION evaluation will terminate when a fals

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if false and false or true then becomes: if (false and false) or true then becomes: if false or true then becomes: if true then answer "Got it 4!" You are thinking of false and true as individual statements and they are not. The whole condition is one statement. Or if you like, the ands are

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It's order of precedence. AND before OR. Bob On Jan 28, 2013, at 9:33 PM, Thierry Douez wrote: > Hi Jacques, > > Thanks for testing. > > Umm, I don't have the correct answers. > > The first test gives me False, which should be the same > as the fourth case which gives True! > > Or, did I m

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False 1! False 2! Got it 3! Got it 4! Off the top of my head. Bob On Jan 28, 2013, at 4:36 AM, Thierry Douez wrote: > Hi Peter, > > 2013/1/27 Peter Haworth > >> Musings about complex if statements on this Sunday morning... >> >> if cond1 and cond2 and cond3 and cond4 then. >> >> if c

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I should rephrase that. If condition 1 and/or 2 involve long time consuming evaluations, there would be an advantage the putting conditions 3 and 4 in parens, since they would be evaluated first, saving time in some instances. But the way to do that is put your time consuming evaluations last wh

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Doesn't matter. It's like saying 1 + 2 + (3 + 4). That is why they use + as the AND operator in boolean logic. Bob On Jan 27, 2013, at 10:39 AM, Peter Haworth wrote: > The manual says the grouping operator (parens) has the highest precedence > so does this mean (cond3 and cond4) will be evalu

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Yes. You can do stuff in between the conditionals in example 2 whereas you cannot in example one. Bob On Jan 27, 2013, at 10:39 AM, Peter Haworth wrote: > Musings about complex if statements on this Sunday morning > > Lets say you have a complex if statement with 4 conditions that must a

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One situation when the order of evaluation is important is if you have conditions that limit the scope of a general handler, eg: if "field" is in the target and the locktext of the target = true then… In this case the first clause is evaluated first, and if the target is something other than a

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2013/1/29 Paul Hibbert Sorry, just re-read your reply and realised I skipped this, > At last, I get it. My concern was not about how you write the if in LC, but about the evaluation of the logical expressions, the order of precedence and commutativity. Obviously, I was wrong. case 1 and case

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On 2013-01-28, at 11:40 PM, Thierry Douez wrote: > which with my little understanding they should not (case 1 should be true) ! Sorry, just re-read your reply and realised I skipped this, if false or true and false then Condition 1 (if false) returns false Condition 2 (true AND false) also r

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On 2013-01-28, at 11:40 PM, Thierry Douez wrote: > don't have to check for each sub-condition if it is true, for instance: Maybe I'm wrong, but the way I read statement 4, the first condition is false (if false and false) so the if statement continues to the second condition (or true) and ret

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2013/1/29 Paul Hibbert > Thierry, > > Just fill in the blanks! > Hi Paul, Thanks for your tries. But... After an if , there is a condition which is true or false; don't have to check for each sub-condition if it is true, for instance: put true into test if test then put "Ok" is the same

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Thierry, Just fill in the blanks! on mouseUp if false is true or true is true and false is true then ## = False answer "Got it 1!" else answer "False 1!" end if if false is true or (true is true and false is true) then ## = False answer "Got it 2!" else answer "False

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Hi Jacques, Thanks for testing. Umm, I don't have the correct answers. The first test gives me False, which should be the same as the fourth case which gives True! Or, did I miss something ? Thierry 2013/1/28 J. Landman Gay > On 1/28/13 6:36 AM, Thierry Douez wrote: > > So, smart livecoder

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On 1/28/13 6:36 AM, Thierry Douez wrote: So, smart livecoders, try to guess what would be the 4 answers to this script; then run it and thanks to comment :) on mouseUp if false or true and false then answer "Got it 1!" else answer "False 1!" end if if false or (tr

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Hi Peter, 2013/1/27 Peter Haworth > Musings about complex if statements on this Sunday morning... > > if cond1 and cond2 and cond3 and cond4 then. > > if cond1 then >if cond2 then > if cond3 then > if cond4 then... > > if cond1 and cond2 and (cond3 and cond4) then > >

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Thanks Mark, sounds like a stye thing then. I love it when real programmers post on this list - what is DRY code? Not really on topic, but whatever happened to decision table processors? I used one years ago and found it to be a great way to express complex if statements and their related action

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Pete- Sunday, January 27, 2013, 11:45:16 AM, you wrote: > OK, so I understand the parens thing now. Any thoughts on the use of > multiple ifs vs joining the conditions together with "and". I've > always considered that to be just a matter of personal preference and ease > of reading but wonderi

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OK, so I understand the parens thing now. Any thoughts on the use of multiple ifs vs joining the conditions together with "and". I've always considered that to be just a matter of personal preference and ease of reading but wondering if there might be other implications, like performance for exam

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Interesting on the use of parens in this situation. I guess it makes sense it works the way it does but it doesn't really come across that way in the manual. Pete lcSQL Software On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Mike Bonner wrote: > ifs are evaluated left to right, thoug

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On 1/27/13 12:39 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: Musings about complex if statements on this Sunday morning Lets say you have a complex if statement with 4 conditions that must all be true. Is there any advantage, other than personal preference/style, to: if cond1 and cond2 and cond3 and cond4 th

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No real leeway with the parens, useful though to force the correct values to be evaluated first though. On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Mike Bonner wrote: > ifs are evaluated left to right, though there is some leeway using parens. > > As to your question though, yes putting slower evals at t

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ifs are evaluated left to right, though there is some leeway using parens. As to your question though, yes putting slower evals at the end of a string of ands and ors does save time if the if fails before the slow parts. Did the following in a button to test. Just change one of the first conditio