Interesting article, with only minor errors!
Looking at the list of 48 CD-ROMs at the end, I programmed 11 of them, and
there are several others that I programmed bits of.
On Jan 18, 2013, at 10:09 AM, Ben Rubinstein wrote:
> >I came across this, which is relevant to this thread, and may even
I came across this, which is relevant to this thread, and may even cheer a few
people up:
http://www.ijdc.net/index.php/ijdc/article/view/216/285
On 03/01/2013 15:34, Graham Samuel wrote:
Yes, it's sad that so many weren't "re-purposed" (i.e. adapted for other
platforms) and so evaporated. Wa
Colin wrote:
> In December 2001 I went to a gathering in San Francisco, to celebrate
> QuickTime's 10th birthday. I made a video to show some of what Voyager had
> used QuickTime for.
Colin,
Brings back fond memories. Exciting times. Thanks for sharing.
Jim Lambert
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That showcase video goes all the way to 11. Thanks for sharing it.
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This conversation is cheering me up - it seems to show that, however glacially,
movement does take place in the complex interactions between publishing, rights
and technology. I for one would certainly like to know (as a consumer) when
some of this stuff comes back to life, as you put it.
Graha
On 01/04/2013 01:35 AM, Peter Bogdanoff wrote:
I confess to being the producer/designer of the Mozart "Dissonant" Quartet
CD-ROM back in the day. Colin and my stays at Voyager overlapped for a time.
Robert Winter, the author of the program had the foresight to retain rights to
the content. I w
Yes on the Stravinksy, Rite of Spring. I produced most of the music titles
except for the first, the Beethoven 9th Symphony (1989)--I was learned
HyperCard on that one.
On Jan 3, 2013, at 4:02 PM, Jerry Jensen wrote:
> On Jan 3, 2013, at 3:35 PM, Peter Bogdanoff wrote:
>
>> I confess to bei
On Jan 3, 2013, at 3:35 PM, Peter Bogdanoff wrote:
> I confess to being the producer/designer of the Mozart "Dissonant" Quartet
> CD-ROM back in the day. Colin and my stays at Voyager overlapped for a time.
>
> Robert Winter, the author of the program had the foresight to retain rights
> to th
I confess to being the producer/designer of the Mozart "Dissonant" Quartet
CD-ROM back in the day. Colin and my stays at Voyager overlapped for a time.
Robert Winter, the author of the program had the foresight to retain rights to
the content. I work with him at UCLA and we have been working to
That is why I added the clause that the author or developer would be immune
from such legislation. I'm talking about a company that buys the rights to
something, then kills it.
Bob
On Jan 3, 2013, at 10:29 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
> Robert Sneidar wrote:
>
> > There ought to be some kind o
These arguments seem to assume that there is an individual author of a work.
This is often true for books, but it isn't for lots of other things, including
CD-ROMs. We have to include the idea that the 'author' is actually a commercial
entity, like a publishing company and that there is really n
J. Landman Gay wrote:
> On 1/3/13 12:29 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
>> Robert Sneidar wrote:
>>
>> > There ought to be some kind of clause in copyrights where if a
>> > producer who is not the author or developer of something sits
>> > on it and does not produce a product from it within a certai
On 1/3/13 12:29 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Robert Sneidar wrote:
> There ought to be some kind of clause in copyrights where if a
> producer who is not the author or developer of something sits
> on it and does not produce a product from it within a certain
> time frame, say 5 years, the auth
xie
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 10:29:59 -0800
From: ambassa...@fourthworld.com
To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Subject: Re: Shoutout to Colin
Robert Sneidar wrote:
> There ought to be some kind of clause in copyrights where if a
> producer who is not the author or developer of something s
In December 2001 I went to a gathering in San Francisco, to celebrate
QuickTime's 10th birthday. I made a video to show some of what Voyager had used
QuickTime for. Hardly anyone watched the video (it was a loud party), but here
it is:
http://xfiles.funnygarbage.com/~colinholgate/video/voyagerq
13 10:29:59 -0800
> From: ambassa...@fourthworld.com
> To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
> Subject: Re: Shoutout to Colin
>
> Robert Sneidar wrote:
>
> > There ought to be some kind of clause in copyrights where if a
> > producer who is not the author or developer of something
Robert Sneidar wrote:
> There ought to be some kind of clause in copyrights where if a
> producer who is not the author or developer of something sits
> on it and does not produce a product from it within a certain
> time frame, say 5 years, the author has the right to reproduce
> it themselves.
Bob,
This is an issue that has been under debate in the CopyRights/Patents
Office/World for decades. I believe we will be seeing some major changes, as we
have to some extent already, in the duration of these IP regulations. They are
meant to protect and reward authors and inventors; not inhibi
There ought to be some kind of clause in copyrights where if a producer who is
not the author or developer of something sits on it and does not produce a
product from it within a certain time frame, say 5 years, the author has the
right to reproduce it themselves. I'm sure it would be a legal ca
ned I still think that 'Just Grandma & Me' has
> not yet been beaten...:-)
>
> Dixie
>
>> From: co...@verizon.net
>> Subject: Re: Shoutout to Colin
>> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 11:49:00 -0500
>> To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
>>
>&
material is concerned I still think that 'Just Grandma & Me' has
not yet been beaten...:-)
Dixie
> From: co...@verizon.net
> Subject: Re: Shoutout to Colin
> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 11:49:00 -0500
> To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
>
> Towards the end a German famil
Towards the end a German family invested in Learn Technologies Interactive, in
the form of acquiring most of the Voyager CD-ROM titles. LTI had their own
engineering team in Bulgaria, and so didn't especially need me, but remained as
my work permit sponsor company, and I found my own work (most
How did the voyage of Voyager end? Or is it still going in some form?
As others have noted, it's a shame these creations were orphaned by tech
changes. Looks like the "Donald Norman CD" came out just as the WWW was
taking off.
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That series, First Person, had four titles to it. I made the HyperCard version
of the Marvin Minsky, Stephen Jay Gould, and Don Norman CD-ROMs, and one for
Mumia Abu Jamal using Director (it had to be cross platform right away). Then
we had other companies do a PC version using either Visual Bas
Here's the link:
https://vimeo.com/18687931
I posted a reply to Don.
There are a bunch of other things I made shown on that page too.
On Jan 3, 2013, at 9:55 AM, Matthias Rebbe
wrote:
> Here´s video about the CD and a little comment from Donald Norman where he
> wishes to resurrect the who
Yes, it's sad that so many weren't "re-purposed" (i.e. adapted for other
platforms) and so evaporated. Warner New Media did a fantastic one on a late
Beethoven string quartet (Op 131) that was definitely HyperCard based.
Presumably totally dead now.
In fact after CD-ROMs in general turned out
On 01/03/2013 04:55 PM, Matthias Rebbe wrote:
For some funny reason that doesn't show up; can you repost it, Please?
Richmond.
Here´s video about the CD and a little comment from Donald Norman where he
wishes to resurrect the whole CD for newer machines.
Regards
Matthias
Am 03.01.2013 um 1
Here´s video about the CD and a little comment from Donald Norman where he
wishes to resurrect the whole CD for newer machines.
Regards
Matthias
Am 03.01.2013 um 15:16 schrieb Richard Gaskin :
> Tom Bodine wrote:
>> Hey Colin. This holiday the kids (now grown) wanted to fire up some favorite
Tom Bodine wrote:
Hey Colin. This holiday the kids (now grown) wanted to fire up some favorite
programs on their childhood Mac. The box of wares from the 90s included a
Voyager CD: "Donald Norman: Defending Human Attributes in the Age of the
Machine." And there you are in the credits as programme
Yes, I did indeed do that one (and many others). It was one of the ones I did
using HyperCard.
On Jan 2, 2013, at 11:16 PM, tbodine wrote:
> The box of wares from the 90s included a
> Voyager CD: "Donald Norman: Defending Human Attributes in the Age of the
> Machine." And there you are in the
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