Re: Quitting with the close box on Mac

2014-06-06 Thread Mark Wieder
Richard- Friday, June 6, 2014, 2:46:57 PM, you wrote: > Long after it shipped one of the Ribbon team leaders, Jensen Harris, > gave this talk at a UX conference - long, but IMO well worth the time: > UX Week 2008: Jensen Harris, "The Story of the Ribbon" > Yes,that's

Re: Quitting with the close box on Mac

2014-06-06 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > liked Office XP better than anything they have since produced. Word 5.1/Excel 4 for the Mac. It's been downhill since then . . . -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 ___ use-livecode m

Re: Quitting with the close box on Mac

2014-06-06 Thread Richard Gaskin
Bob Sneidar wrote: > Why did we need ribbons again? I first learned of the Ribbon through a post Dan Shafer made here on this list back in 2005: I might have been more skeptical, but citing Jakob Nielsen made it intere

Re: Quitting with the close box on Mac

2014-06-06 Thread Bob Sneidar
I agree Stephen. Sometimes software companies make changes because they, “have to do something!” I don’t think that is a good reason for changing anything. Look at Microsoft! Every three years on EVERY SOFTWARE PRODUCT THEY SELL, they HAVE to produce a major upgrade, or risk pissing off million

Re: Quitting with the close box on Mac

2014-05-29 Thread Kay C Lan
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 12:55 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > Except for Preview, which is document based but auto-closes. On my Mavericks 10.9 3 and Preview 7.0 (826.4), Preview is in a league of it's own. With all the other mentioned auto-close apps, when the last window is closed then the app clos

Re: Quitting with the close box on Mac

2014-05-29 Thread Peter Haworth
On May 29, 2014 7:49 AM, "Igor de Oliveira Couto" wrote: > > Now, how useful would that be if we were able to do the same from, let’s say, inside a stack window (viewing previous versions of an interface), or directly from the script editor?… > LcStackDiff provides a way to view all the changes be

Re: Quitting with the close box on Mac

2014-05-29 Thread Peter Haworth
> > That said, there's an auto-save plugin (RevSmartSave) that ships with LC for those who want it. > LcStackBrowser does this too, either at timed intervals or on request, along with an optional user supplied comment. Versions can be restored from a list showing the creation date and time along wi

Re: Quitting with the close box on Mac

2014-05-28 Thread Igor de Oliveira Couto
On 29 May 2014, at 12:38 pm, J. Landman Gay wrote: > I find Mavericks auto-save pretty useless actually. When you go back into > their time machine interface you can only see the first page of the document > (and nothing at all for many types of files.) […] If you do a “Revert to…” from a Page

Re: Quitting with the close box on Mac

2014-05-28 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 5/28/2014, 6:51 PM, Björnke von Gierke wrote: Just imagine, never hitting save, but always having a save of every change you ever made within the stack itself, without cluttering your disk and filesystem with dozens of saves Like HyperCard did. I was never so glad to get rid of auto-save as

Re: Quitting with the close box on Mac

2014-05-28 Thread Richard Gaskin
Björnke von Gierke wrote: > Ah! Well, I thought you where quite rambly there, and the point was > actually a simple one. So that's why I did that. I regret nothing. 😈 There's nothing to regret. On the contrary, many of my posts do tend to get longer than needed. You have a good editorial eye.

Re: Quitting with the close box on Mac

2014-05-28 Thread Björnke von Gierke
Ah! Well, I thought you where quite rambly there, and the point was actually a simple one. So that's why I did that. I regret nothing. 😈 On 29 May 2014, at 02:01, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > My Version? Excuse me? What? > > Consider it a customized summary. :) > >

Re: Quitting with the close box on Mac

2014-05-28 Thread Richard Gaskin
Björnke von Gierke wrote: > On 28 May 2014, at 19:19, Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> stephen barncard wrote: >>> This dumbing down crap should be optional, not forced on us. >> >> Björnke version: Options can get expensive over time, introducing a >> form of technical debt. >> >> TL/DR version: >>

Re: Quitting with the close box on Mac

2014-05-28 Thread Björnke von Gierke
My Version? Excuse me? What? A minor annoyance on Mavericks is that Text Edit does indeed close automatically when the last text file is closed, slightly less annoying, so does preview. Sadly, I do expect more apps to follow in the next version of OS X. I do like the new saving behaviour tho,

Re: Quitting with the close box on Mac

2014-05-28 Thread J. Landman Gay
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Re: Quitting with the close box on Mac

2014-05-28 Thread Richard Gaskin
stephen barncard wrote: This dumbing down crap should be optional, not forced on us. Björnke version: Options can get expensive over time, introducing a form of technical debt. TL/DR version: -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World

Re: Quitting with the close box on Mac

2014-05-28 Thread J. Landman Gay
Except for Preview, which is document based but auto-closes. It seems there is no firm rule about this but in general Apple is following the established behavior. I guess I'll do the same, partly for consistency and partly because I prefer it. On May 28, 2014 2:37:36 AM CDT, Igor de Oliveira

Re: Quitting with the close box on Mac

2014-05-28 Thread divya navaneeth
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Re: Quitting with the close box on Mac

2014-05-28 Thread divya navaneeth
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Re: Quitting with the close box on Mac

2014-05-28 Thread Igor de Oliveira Couto
I understand how you feel: On 28 May 2014, at 5:43 pm, stephen barncard wrote: > Sorry, I don't buy that. The changes just require more stupid clicking > than needed to do what was easy before. I can take care of my own file > management, thank you, and I hate this intrusion into my workflow

Re: Quitting with the close box on Mac

2014-05-28 Thread stephen barncard
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 8:26 PM, Igor de Oliveira Couto wrote: > unnecessary annoyance. But I have to admit, that after watching new users > play with these features, they ARE easier to learn - all the confusion > about when to use ‘Save/Save as…’ is gone, and they find using Duplicate > and Rever

Re: Quitting with the close box on Mac

2014-05-28 Thread Igor de Oliveira Couto
On 28 May 2014, at 1:54 pm, Kay C Lan wrote: > On my 10.9.3 a slew of Apple and non-Apple apps all remain open after > I've closed the last window. The one's that do auto-close seem to be > sensible ones: System Preferences for many versions of OS X has > auto-closed when the window was closed, n

Re: Quitting with the close box on Mac

2014-05-27 Thread Kay C Lan
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Peter M. Brigham wrote: > > Another reason for me to delay running Mavericks as long as I possibly can. > Is this true for apps like Word and TextEdit, too??? If so, my motivation is > further reinforced. What the hell is Apple thinking of, changing its > longs

Re: Quitting with the close box on Mac

2014-05-27 Thread Igor de Oliveira Couto
On 28 May 2014, at 12:39 pm, Peter M. Brigham wrote: > Another reason for me to delay running Mavericks as long as I possibly can. > Is this true for apps like Word and TextEdit, too??? I have been using Mavericks exclusively in all my Macs since it came out, and have now upgraded several ser

Re: Quitting with the close box on Mac

2014-05-27 Thread Peter M. Brigham
On May 27, 2014, at 5:55 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > It used to be that a Mac app should never quit when its last window was > closed, except in the case of single-window utilites. The menubar remained > and the app kept running. > > Now that Mavericks quits apps for you when the last window cl