For what it's worth, I got the Indy license so that I could release
github.Howstr.com under whatever license I wanted. In this case that's the
MIT license. So for me it's not even about keeping it secret, it's about
sharing with fewer restrictions than the GPL allows.
Of course, I am turning Howst
Well, Mark, I like the word "creative" )
Hobbyists, students etc not able or willing to pay the full fees and still
wishing to have some reflection of protecting code could form an
association which would receive full rights from LiveCode to protect code
in the name of the association, and all mem
Bravo to Tore Nilsen in this thread. Spot on.
I mighy call myself a Hobbyists too, but I LOVE the open source community
version.
Those with extra cash who desire to support the Mothership may want to
invest into a new LiveCode feature from time to time. Or, attend a LiveCode
event.
I think the o
And of course the Apple 'App Store' for the desktop is highly over-rated
and has benefits for the developer and end user if avoided.
On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami <
bra...@hindu.org> wrote:
> The "Hobbyist" using the community version cannot deploy on the App Store
> 28. feb. 2016 kl. 19.11 skrev Robert Mann :
>
> Use open sourced for in house commercial application! whouaou!!
> that does not really sound very open source.. kind of twisting the game in
> way.
This is where I think you get open source wrong. Open source does not mean non
commercial. It is
Yes Richmond, we're in exactly the same boat.
Use open sourced for in house commercial application! whouaou!!
that does not really sound very open source.. kind of twisting the game in
way.
if you (I) sideways use that for business, I would prefer to chunk in just a
few more bucks in to have late
On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 11:32:45 -0700, Roger Guay wrote:
> Excellent point! What would you think about an inexpensive LC license
> for non-profits and free apps?
I dream of that !
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Excellent point! What would you think about an inexpensive LC license for
non-profits and free apps?
Roger
> On Feb 28, 2016, at 11:00 AM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
> wrote:
>
> Just to throw in two mangoes from Hawaii
>
> Matt.. there is also the unspoken "Apple Policy" problem.
>
> The
Just to throw in two mangoes from Hawaii
Matt.. there is also the unspoken "Apple Policy" problem.
The "Hobbyist" using the community version cannot deploy on the App Store.
This kind of throws an rusty wrench into what would otherwise be "all good"
overall picture.
But we cannot put that on
The Community version is 100% fantastic for hobbyists as well as anyone
else who isn't fussed
about protecting their code.
I use the Community version on a daily basis to develop software for my
business, where code
protection is not an issue; I also use a commercial version (4.5) to
develop
Another item:
I find https://www.pinterest.com to be a great resource to see what educators,
especially in k-12 are doing. Lots of great ideas.
Bill
William Prothero
http://es.earthednet.org
> On Feb 27, 2016, at 9:05 AM, Earthednet-wp wrote:
>
> Tore,
> Your idea has a lot of merit. In the ea
Tore,
Your idea has a lot of merit. In the early Apple days, HyperCard was very
popular with educators. It was simple and revolutionary as a programming
environment, and free with the computer. Livecode has the capability for this
now, especially with the widgets and even more with Monte's wonde
I’d like to chime in here:
I love LiveCode and the folks who use, develop, produce and maintain it. I want
them all to flourish.
I am strictly a hobbyist developer, but did have an occasion where I donated
work to the SETI Institute (a non-profit). This was a couple of years ago when
I could a
> 27. feb. 2016 kl. 03.35 skrev ambassa...@fourthworld.com:
>
>> Another good way to get a user base is to be available in schools.
>> This is hard work, as network administrators, school boards, and
>> politicians are often against all change. RunRev put a little
>> effort into this a long time
> On 27 Feb 2016, at 11:07, Dirk prive wrote:
>
> So for new customers in Jan 2017 the price will be over 3 times what it was
> for new customers in march 2015. I would say that is a price that goes up
> way faster than one would expect. The company knows the numbers though and
> they need to ma
On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Terence Heaford
wrote:
> I would like a license with LiveCode but am not prepared to stump up
> $499/year which I believe, is extortionate (forgive the word, but it is my
> word).
> I may be wrong but has it just gone up to $.
>
> I am sure there are th
Hi again,
I just re-read everything I received so far and have come to the conclusion
that some things could have been communicated better by the company.
*From their mail on feb 18th.*
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We are committed to delivering a quality core product that offers great
value to
Is the existing method working?
There always appears to be shifting sand, modifying this method for selling to
renting, a different licence for this a different license for that, extensions
for extra cash.
All the shifting sands suggests to me that LiveCode are not making enough.
What is enoug
Howdy Folks,
This is a very interesting thread with the pricing plan changing.
LiveCode's Community Edition will fit the needs of many hobbyists
perfectly, as others have rightly pointed out. But to be fair, it's
unrealistic (false dichotomy) to believe that all software must be
either comme
> Monte wrote:
> Apples/oranges you are comparing proprietary extensions with something created
> just for the fun of it with no intent to commercialise. Cheers Monte
> Sent from my iPhone
> > hh wrote:
> > Why are you hiding your externals code? Could it be that a simple
> > student who has a goo
Apples/oranges you are comparing proprietary extensions with something created
just for the fun of it with no intent to commercialise.
Cheers
Monte
Sent from my iPhone
> On 27 Feb 2016, at 11:17 AM, [-hh] wrote:
>
> Why are you hiding your externals code? Could it be that a simple
> student
Mark Schonewille wrote:
Another good way to get a user base is to be available in schools.
This is hard work, as network administrators, school boards, and
politicians are often against all change. RunRev put a little
effort into this a long time ago and I don't think they currently
do anything
OK I'm completely confused. I'd like to suggest it's my inability to grasp
the English language but I read some of these post over and over and I
can't just come to any other conclusion the world has turned upside down.
Way back people were complaining that Revolution was too expensive. The
compan
> Monte wrote:
> > On 27 Feb 2016, at 9:28 AM, [-hh] wrote:
> > Build on the next generation, who will become decision maker in a few
> > years. And, if they *know* the software, may also become possible
> > buyers of LC-related products:
> > Give teachers and their students in class FREE copies.
Donation are ok and all other variants of raising money too in my opinion.
Also the free community version was needed which was a must-have because it
protects investment to some degree, and the market required it.
The question - as I interpret some contributions here - is more about the
"how" and
Maybe something along the line of as paying license customers we can have
some expectations/influence. For instance I would like Android support on
par with iOS support. As someone that just donated once, I feel like I have
no voice, since I'm not a customer. And yes Android support has been a
driv
> On 27 Feb 2016, at 9:28 AM, [-hh] wrote:
>
> Build on the next generation, who will become decision maker in a few
> years. And, if they *know* the software, may also become possible
> buyers of LC-related products:
> Give teachers and their students in class FREE copies.
> Give university stu
There is no need for code protection for hobbyists.
But why not have a budget offer for some benefit? Simple, straightforward,
and not just a donation. Whether is it worth the effort now, I also do not
know.
The idea behind is still to help development which is never for free, but
not to ask for
Okay, I think I follow that. It seems like a very specific case in that you
could just not share the software publically and then there's no conflict.
It sounds like the public use of the compiled software is a nice-to-have.
Maybe in the case that you want to let the world use the software in its
Yes, Matt, I have no problem with open source, especially not in those
areas you point too, and I also said it. I share my code, why not?
Personally I am fine with the free version license until a professional
need arises and I would be confident enough to allow for professional work.
And then pay
You might need to fill in some blanks for me on why that is important for a
hobbyist? I would say one feature of a hobbyist with a budget market license
could be no code protection so it's an important point to clarify.
Sent from my iPhone
> On 27 Feb 2016, at 10:29 AM, [-hh] wrote:
>
> Becau
> Matt M. wrote:
> But, if you're a hobbyist, and not charging for what you distribute,
> why would you need to close the source?
Because, not always but sometimes, you would like to share the code
with some people only, not with all.
And at the same time you are willing to share your product with
I'm still not clear on how the community edition of Livecode isn't
sufficient for hobby purposes. It's got tons of functionality, and it's
free, and the main restriction is that anything you distribute has to be
licensed GPL. But, if you're a hobbyist, and not charging for what you
distribute, why
Really good points, Roland.
Let me add explicitly this one.
Build on the next generation, who will become decision maker in a few
years. And, if they *know* the software, may also become possible
buyers of LC-related products:
Give teachers and their students in class FREE copies.
Give university
A good way to grow the community is to give something away for free.
That's what RunRev has done by open-sourcing. I'm not sure this was a
good strategic move as far as earning are concerned, but it was
definitely a good way to attract more users.
It is also necessary to be present in tech new
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