Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

> On 20 Sep 2017, at 9:15 pm, RunRevPlanet via use-livecode > wrote: > > If you are developing new features in a code editor how hard is to this. > > 1. Pick a random LiveCode handler that you have lying around of say 200 lines. > (Be sure to pick one that has no global dependencies.) > > 2.

Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

@Panos, Thanks for the tip, very useful. @Brian Loaded up the file you mention. Picked a handler near the bottom. Typed in: put 1 into item 1 of xData and it worked. Backspaced over the text so there is an empty line and typed it again. The bug appears as keystrokes are dropped. An image of

Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

On 2017-09-20 13:15, RunRevPlanet via use-livecode wrote: "Well, if there a simple procedure that we at LiveCode can do that will catch really obvious bugs before sending out a DP, it is not worth doing because it won't catch all the bugs and have 100% percentage coverage." I fail to see the

Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

If this were even possible in any development environment, it would beg the question, why are so many Microsoft products buggy? For instance, Windows has a bug in their windows manager, where if your zoom level is above 185% the address bar is about an inch and the rest of the space is taken up

Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

Bob Sneidar wrote: >> On Sep 20, 2017, at 09:42 , Richard Gaskin wrote: >> >> Thousands of language features >> * Thousands of language features > > unintended recursions... :-) Au contraire, mon ami. While I'm frequently guilty of sloppy writing, in this case I was referring to the interact

Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

unintended recursions... :-) Bob S > On Sep 20, 2017, at 09:42 , Richard Gaskin via use-livecode > wrote: > > Thousands of language features > * Thousands of language features ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please vi

Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

RunRevPlanet wrote: > I am surprised that LiveCode does not have a single large project that > can be loaded into the IDE for a spot control creation and script > editing on a real machine platforms before releasing a DP. Thousands of language features * Thousands of language features * Num

Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

On 09/20/2017 04:15 AM, RunRevPlanet via use-livecode wrote: Getting back to part of my original gripe, in effect what I am hearing is that it seems to be that part of the LiveCode Philosophy can be paraphrased as: "Well, if there a simple procedure that we at LiveCode can do that will catch re

Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

You can also access the script of any IDE (and non-IDE) stack - as long as you know its name - directly from the msg box: edit the script of stack "revidelibrary" at line_number Best, Panos -- On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Brian Milby via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

Yes, that is the file. I have IDE stacks show in the browser and get to the scripts that way. There are quite a few with many thousands of lines, that just happens to be the largest. On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 7:55 AM, RunRevPlanet via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Hi Bria

Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

Hi Brian, I am currently on a different machine tonight that does not have 8.2.0 DP-2 on it, but I will try what you suggest tomorrow morning when I am back on my regular "beast". I presume you mean the file named: revidelibrary.8.livecodescript that lives somewhere in the LiveCode folder. I d

Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

Do you experience the same issue when editing the IDE behavior stacks? For example revidelibrary (12k lines)? I ask because I tried to duplicate the issue on my system (Win10, HP EliteBook 840G1) and could not. I don't have any stacks that I know of with that many lines to check though (other th

Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

Hi Jacqueline, When I say a 7,000 line script, I should clarify that I am not referring to a single handler. Instead the 7,000 lines is comprised of the many handlers that are in a stack script. Each handler is likely to be less than 200 lines. There are a couple "monster" handlers that are almo

Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

I'm pretty sure there wouldn't be any large project that would cover all bases, given the wide variety of uses we subject the engine to. That's why LC wrote the automated test engine, to cover as many features as possible. But that can't catch the manual actions that require a real user sitting

Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

Hi Monte, I am surprised that LiveCode does not have a single large project that can be loaded into the IDE for a spot control creation and script editing on a real machine platforms before releasing a DP. Editing text is a core feature of an IDE and leaving it to customers to discover find such

Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

> On 20 Sep 2017, at 12:05 pm, RunRevPlanet via use-livecode > wrote: > > * Can I respectfully suggest that, if it is not already, testing on a Windows > box and doing real work on a sizeable project (in terms of controls and code) > be > made part of the check list for any release, DP or not?

Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

Hi Monte, I do not expect full coverage of every scenario, but my setup and what I was doing is so far from the edge case that is is right in the middle. (OK, maybe 7000 lines is a lot, but it is not that far from the centre, as far as complex LiveCode applications go.) * Can I respectfully sugge

Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

> On 20 Sep 2017, at 7:41 am, RunRevPlanet via use-livecode > wrote: > > It troubles me that *any* release is made with an obvious "show stopper" bug. Hi Scott We release DPs to discover show stopper bugs. If you don’t want to be the one discovering them and reporting them then wait for at l

Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

@Jacqueline, > I meant say thank you for this last time, but got distracted. Tissues certainly help with the way I was feeling the other day. @Bob, DP? I understand the risks of using a DP. But when a release is made with an introduction that begins with: > We are pleased to announce the rele

Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

> On 19 Sep 2017, at 1:07 am, Mark Wieder via use-livecode > wrote: > > FWIW, the glx2 script editor aggregates the necessary information for > autocompletion when you load a new script. There's a negligible delay at > startup while it parses all the stacks in use, but then no delay while you

Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

On 09/18/2017 08:07 AM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: you're editing. Might be worth refactoring the SE if it's actually doing a lookup for every keystroke. sorry... I meant moomin... -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mai

Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

On 09/17/2017 05:46 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: I'd guess it's the 7000 lines. The autocomplete lookups may not be able to deal with that much text fast enough. Does it work for you with a tiny little script? How about if you type one letter at a time and count to five in betwee

Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

Hi Scott. DP means Developer Preview. It's not meant for production environments. It's so we can test new feathres before release. I'd definitely use 8.1.5 oe earlier. Bob S > On Sep 17, 2017, at 21:20 , RunRevPlanet via use-livecode > wrote: > > Basically, I cannot use 8.2.0 DP-1, so that

Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

On 2017-09-18 08:13, RunRevPlanet via use-livecode wrote: No worries, I always use TTF Courier New, so yes it is monospaced. Ugly? Maybe! But for me very readable, and installed almost everywhere. FWIW I think I fixed this first thing today: https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pull/5949

Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

No worries, I always use TTF Courier New, so yes it is monospaced. Ugly? Maybe! But for me very readable, and installed almost everywhere. -- Scott McDonald http://thelivecodelab.com/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please v

Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

> On 18 Sep 2017, at 2:20 pm, RunRevPlanet via use-livecode > wrote: > > Monte, > >> Ok, great, I’m definitely reproducing it here > > Nice to know, I will leave it with you. Don’t run off just yet. Can you give me some info on your SE font? Is it monospaced? I originally had the default fo

Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

Monte, > Ok, great, I’m definitely reproducing it here Nice to know, I will leave it with you. Good luck! My 2 cents worth says that the nature of the 8.x series engine and the way the 8.x IDE is coded will make it a challenge. Since 8.1.6 Stable is already "laggy" on my high spec PC and not as

Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

> On 18 Sep 2017, at 1:18 pm, RunRevPlanet via use-livecode > wrote: > > So the problem appears independent of where in the file I am working. Ok, great, I’m definitely reproducing it here Thanks Monte ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lis

Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

Hi Monte, >> move to about line 5000 > >Is ^ a critical part of the recipe? No. I just tested typing in the first handler in the same 7000 line stack script, which is at around only line 100, and keystrokes were dropped on the first line I typed. The IDE had been opened only moments before. This

Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

> On 18 Sep 2017, at 12:14 pm, LiveCode Feeds via use-livecode > wrote: > > move to about line 5000 Is ^ a critical part of the recipe? Cheers Monte ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, uns

Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

Monte, Thank you for submitting Bug 20410. I open the Script Editor, move to about line 5000 and start typing, and keystrokes are dropped. This is on a freshly started LiveCode IDE, so I don't need to wait 10 minutes for it happen. LiveCode 8.1.6 is sluggish with the same 7000 lines of code, but

Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

I have opened this report for you: http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20410 Cheers Monte ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsub

Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

On 9/17/17 6:58 PM, RunRevPlanet via use-livecode wrote: Carefully type the following in the Script Editor, using my 2 finger typing skills: put 5 into item 1 of rectBuffer Looking up from the keyboard, this is what has been added my code: put nto 3 ectfer ... Decide that I have alrea

Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

Hi Scott This will obviously need to be fixed before we can go to RC. The only reason I can think for dropped keystrokes is if the windows engine somehow ignores them if it’s busy so the messages aren’t sent. I’ll need to see what Mark thinks on that. However, regardless of that we will need to