Re: Licensing issues [was: Re: LC 8 DP 11]

2015-12-19 Thread Mark Waddingham
On 2015-12-18 18:38, sa...@hrz.uni-kassel.de wrote: There we have two different views on this problem from two members of the Livecode team, and I am inclined to judge that Mark is fully right here. No, there are not two different views - mine was not a view, it was a statement of fact which c

Re: Licensing issues [was: Re: LC 8 DP 11]

2015-12-18 Thread Richard Gaskin
Wilhelm Sanke wrote: > I surely cannot afford the present Business license, but could live > with a new Indy-license starting August 2016, provided the Indy > license allows me to install Livecode - and different versions of it > - more than one time on one or more computers. Looks like section 1

Re: Licensing issues [was: Re: LC 8 DP 11]

2015-12-18 Thread sanke
On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 11:35:50 Mark Waddingham wrote in response to Peter Brett: On 2015-12-14 11:21, Peter TB Brett wrote: Hi Wilhelm, I find this newly installed monitoring process controlling the validity of older, but already fully installed versions an outright unnnecessary nuisance. Is

Re: LC 8 DP 11

2015-12-14 Thread Mark Wieder
On 12/13/2015 10:15 AM, sa...@hrz.uni-kassel.de wrote: Intending to test performance developments between different LC versions (on the Windows partition of the Mac Mini) - like I reported them several times on the Livecode lists this year - I ran into a new problem: Versions that had been insta

Re: LC 8 DP 11

2015-12-14 Thread [-hh]
> Ali wrote: > There is an install log, it should be at > /Users//AppData/Local/RunRev/Logs/LiveCodeInstallerLog.txt (off > the top of my head - might be a slight variation on that) - tracking the > log down for the aborted install might help us work out what is taking so > long. Ali, there is on

Re: Licensing issues [was: Re: LC 8 DP 11]

2015-12-14 Thread Mark Waddingham
On 2015-12-14 11:21, Peter TB Brett wrote: Hi Wilhelm, I find this newly installed monitoring process controlling the validity of older, but already fully installed versions an outright unnnecessary nuisance. Is this part of the new licensing policies that restrict the use of LC-Indy versions

Re: Licensing issues [was: Re: LC 8 DP 11]

2015-12-14 Thread Mark Schonewille
Peter, You wrote: > I'm afraid that that's not correct -- when your current commercial > license expires in August 2016, you will not be able to use any > commercial version of LiveCode or use them to create standalones > unless you renew your license. This may be correct for 6.x and later, but

Licensing issues [was: Re: LC 8 DP 11]

2015-12-14 Thread Peter TB Brett
Hi Wilhelm, On 13/12/2015 18:15, sa...@hrz.uni-kassel.de wrote: Intending to test performance developments between different LC versions (on the Windows partition of the Mac Mini) - like I reported them several times on the Livecode lists this year - I ran into a new problem: Versions that had

Re: LC 8 DP 11

2015-12-13 Thread Ali Lloyd
There is an install log, it should be at /Users//AppData/Local/RunRev/Logs/LiveCodeInstallerLog.txt (off the top of my head - might be a slight variation on that) - tracking the log down for the aborted install might help us work out what is taking so long. On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 6:21 PM Alejandr

Re: LC 8 DP 11

2015-12-13 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Hi All, Probably a more verbose installer could help to track slowdowns. I am reinstalling my whole Ubuntu setup and now I understand their real purpose. Installation logs and detailed messages are a real necessity. Alejandro -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.

Re: LC 8 DP 11

2015-12-13 Thread sanke
ON Sat, 12 Dec 2015 "[-hh]" wrote: I can now confirm that it installs on Win 7 --- after a very long time, as you say. A fresh copy of the Indy-version needed here (3 GHz, Win 7-32Bit). (Times instead of screenshots of the progress bar) 1 minute to start plus 5 minutes to com to a 50% progres

Re: LC 8 DP 11

2015-12-12 Thread [-hh]
Peter, I can now confirm that it installs on Win 7 --- after a very long time, as you say. A fresh copy of the Indy-version needed here (3 GHz, Win 7-32Bit). (Times instead of screenshots of the progress bar) 1 minute to start plus 5 minutes to com to a 50% progress bar plus 6 minutes to come t

Re: LC 8 DP 11

2015-12-12 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 2015-12-11 23:30, sa...@hrz.uni-kassel.de wrote: Livecode 8 DP 11 apparently cannot be installed on Windows 7/ 32 . I tried an installation twice, both times the installation stopped (was not completed) after clicking the "Finish"-button, even after the first installation attempt I had delete

Re: LC 8 DP 11

2015-12-11 Thread [-hh]
Peter, this is the sunny side of the story: If the LC 8-dp11 installer works then one can see a lot of improvements, especially in the HTML5 standalone engine and Livecode Builder. HTML5 has, TMO, now switched from 'very experimental' to 'experimental' :-)) Hermann

Re: LC 8 DP 11

2015-12-11 Thread [-hh]
Peter, I don't think that it is a characteristic of a developer preview that an installer starts with preview 11 not to work any more. Wilhelm wasn't angry about "horrible bugs" (there will be some unsatisfying things even in the 'stable' versions of LC 7 for his great work in using LC for ima

Re: LC 8 DP 11

2015-12-11 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 2015-12-11 23:30, sa...@hrz.uni-kassel.de wrote: Livecode 8 DP 11 apparently cannot be installed on Windows 7/ 32 . I tried an installation twice, both times the installation stopped (was not completed) after clicking the "Finish"-button, even after the first installation attempt I had delete