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How did you know that. You are on the ball. Terry. On 16 Jul 2014, at 07:47, Richmond wrote: > Your nose looks like a pig's bottom :) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and m

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On 16 July 2014 07:47, Richmond wrote: > On 15/07/14 23:31, Terence Heaford wrote: > >> I did place a :) (smiley) at the end of the sentence though. >> > > Quite. > > Let's try this one then: > > [not to be taken as anything except a demonstration of the feebleness of > smileys] > > Your nose loo

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On 15/07/14 23:31, Terence Heaford wrote: I did place a :) (smiley) at the end of the sentence though. Quite. Let's try this one then: [not to be taken as anything except a demonstration of the feebleness of smileys] Your nose looks like a pig's bottom :) I don't think the smiley does all

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On the topic of the DG, I have worked on and in it to tweak and fix a few things. I am amazed at how complex it is, and how many of lines of code it contains. I've thought about/played around with simplifying it, removing a couple thousand lines of code, etc. to make a DG-Lite, but I'm not happy

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Hi Kevin, Kevin Miller-2 wrote > If the data grid was written to be a widget, it would be a single object. > Much easier to make that run fast! Just out of curiosity... Why the default layerMode of the datagrid is "static"? Could the datagrid scrolls faster if the layerMode was set to "scrollin

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Hi Terry, I came up with a technique to right justify columns in a scrolling list field a while back. It might tide you over until the real thing comes along. If you're interested, email me off list and I'll dig it out for you. Pete lcSQL Software Home of lcStackBrowser

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Terence Heaford wrote: > It reminds me of one year in February we went walking on the Sands > of Morar and my granddaughter, 4 years old at the time, on a clear > blue sunny day (-3 deg C) fell into the sea fortunately wearing a > snow suit and the water did not penetrate. If you come to San Dieg

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On 7/15/2014, 3:31 PM, Terence Heaford wrote: I did place a :) (smiley) at the end of the sentence though. I hope some day you will come to one of the conferences and meet the engineers. To describe them as geniuses isn't giving them enough credit. They are some of the most talented, gifted p

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I agree, it’s a difficult task I believe but it is needed. I regularly go on holiday (vacation) to Scotland but I have to say, not to sit on the beach. We have been fortunate with the weather when we visit Scotland whether in the Winter (we usually get some snow) or the summer (we usually have

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I did place a :) (smiley) at the end of the sentence though. Terry. On 15 Jul 2014, at 21:19, Richmond wrote: > On 15/07/14 23:08, Terence Heaford wrote: >> Will clarify which part of my posts you find rude? >> >> Terry. >> >> >> > > "Perhaps it is beyond the capabilities of the LiveCode

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Terence Heaford wrote: > > On 15 Jul 2014, at 19:10, Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> As a long time friend of ListMaster's author and having been >> the original publisher of ListMaster for several years, I know >> very well what a joy it is to work with. >> >> That is, if your audience is exclusively

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Yes, I remember trying it in HyperCard although not grouping (such a long time ago), I will give it a try. If I remember correctly HyperCard's performance slowed with an increase in the number of fields. Maybe this will not be the case with grouped fields in LiveCode. Thanks Terry On 15 Ju

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On 15/07/14 23:08, Terence Heaford wrote: Will clarify which part of my posts you find rude? Terry. "Perhaps it is beyond the capabilities of the LiveCode programmers." I would be "miffed" to say the least at that one. Richmond. ___ use-livecod

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On 7/15/2014, 2:08 PM, Terence Heaford wrote: Right aligned is not yet available for the basic table field and I have a project containing financial data which cannot as yet show a reasonable level of scrolling performance. Well, this part is pretty easy using existing controls and employs a t

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Will clarify which part of my posts you find rude? Terry. On 15 Jul 2014, at 20:30, Richmond wrote: > On 15/07/14 22:08, Terence Heaford wrote: >> >> >> I am trying to provide genuine feedback. > > > Last time I tried to provide "genuine feedback" as rudely as you did the only > thing tha

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On 15/07/14 22:08, Terence Heaford wrote: I am trying to provide genuine feedback. Last time I tried to provide "genuine feedback" as rudely as you did the only thing that happened was that I got "smacked" and ended up both looking and feeling like a bl**dy fool. So; learn from "Uncle Ri

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Terence Heaford wrote: > On 15 Jul 2014, at 19:10, Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> That's more or less how ListMaster works, but doing it in C rather >> than in script. > > I believe ListMaster is based upon the old classic/carbon LDEF system. Exactly. Custom LDEFs like the one written for ListMaste

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If I understand your reply correctly, when widgets become available then the DG will be provided as an example? What is the target date for widgets to become mainstream? All the best Terry On 15 Jul 2014, at 20:07, Kevin Miller wrote: > Indeed. Ultimately everything will be a widget. Existi

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Is LiveCode’s market purely cross platform? Clearly ListMaster is Mac only but this should not preclude LiveCode’s authors from trying to achieve an acceptable level of performance from their controls. Clearly DG has limited performance as it is built in the scripting environment, For those wis

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Indeed. Ultimately everything will be a widget. Existing objects will be for backward compatibility. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ LiveCode: Everyone can code On 15/07/2014 19:26, "Roger Eller" wrote: >So with the introduction of the new w

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I believe ListMaster is based upon the old classic/carbon LDEF system. All the best Terry On 15 Jul 2014, at 19:10, Richard Gaskin wrote: > That's more or less how ListMaster works, but doing it in C rather than in > script. ___ use-livecode mailing

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Yes, it is much better than DG for a scrolling table but really needs right aligned. I believe it’s on the way at some point. All the best Terry On 15 Jul 2014, at 19:10, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Your observations on this have been well and thoroughly described, but have > you had a chance t

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So with the introduction of the new widgets infrastructure, will the datagrid object be reworked and provided as an example? That would be an awesome endorsement for widgets! ~Roger On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Kevin Miller wrote: > If the data grid was written to be a widget, it would be

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If the data grid was written to be a widget, it would be a single object. Much easier to make that run fast! Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ LiveCode: Everyone can code On 15/07/2014 09:26, "stephen barncard" wrote: >Datagrid excepted. That

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Terence Heaford wrote: > LiveCode is NOT very fast in my opinion. > > I repeat what I have said before, scrolling of a DataGrid is > abysmally slow, in my opinion, when compared to other programming > apps. Which other programming apps provide a point-and-click way to produce form layouts like

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On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 1:04 AM, Terence Heaford wrote: > I repeat what I have said before, scrolling of a DataGrid Datagrid excepted. That thing is a monster, and it needs to be of it's own dog food. But there's a lot of "binary" precompiled stuff that is quite speedy. *--* *Stephen Barncard

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I was tempted to not reply but I couldn’t resist. LiveCode is NOT very fast in my opinion. I repeat what I have said before, scrolling of a DataGrid is abysmally slow, in my opinion, when compared to other programming apps. Even a now out of date SuperCard when using the ListMaster external is

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http://swift-lang.org/main/ This is the wrong Swift. Yes, Apple gave their new programming language the same name as an existing one. Mark ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and m

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On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 8:28 AM, kee nethery wrote: > Swift is going to have an amazingly fast adoption rate. > Apparently so... "Swift is flexible: its being used in many fields of science, engineering, and business. Read the case studies. " Which comes from: http://swift-lang.org/main/ Other

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Swift is going to have an amazingly fast adoption rate. People learned Objective-C to write Apple apps. It’s not really usable for anything else. All those people using Objective-C will switch to Swift for several reasons; it is easier to learn (it has a playground), it is designed to prevent

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On Jul 14, 2014, at 4:10 PM, stephen barncard wrote: > On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Jerry Jensen wrote: > >> I've been looking at Swift. Its very unlike LC. Its syntax is huge, very >> powerful and feature-ridden. > > > Available to ordinary MacOS Developers (currently unpaid) ? The bo

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On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Richmond wrote: > Surely the sensible way to assess Swift is NOT to read silly articles, but > to download the language and > give it a try: > > https://developer.apple.com/swift/ > Downloading. thanks for the feedback. *--* *Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca.

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On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Jerry Jensen wrote: > I've been looking at Swift. Its very unlike LC. Its syntax is huge, very > powerful and feature-ridden. Available to ordinary MacOS Developers (currently unpaid) ? *--* *Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words* _

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I always get tired of this kind of announcements concering 'new halleluja" program languages... the only real language ever born was C and to be more specific: plain C. Even C++ with only new so called OO (just another notation of writing seperation of data and methods just as Swift now with ano

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On 14/07/14 23:45, stephen barncard wrote: Apple is touting this like the second coming but... haven't we been doing this for a while in Revolution/RunRev/Livecode ? typeless just in time compiling prefab blocks easier than Obj C VERY FAST " it lets you write code on one side of your comput

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I've been looking at Swift. Its very unlike LC. Its syntax is huge, very powerful and feature-ridden. Typeless: NOT. Its very strongly typed. Its smart about inferring types, but far from typeless. Very Fast: probably so. LC is NOT fast at executing, except compared to Hypercard. LC IS faster at