Re: Text Styles: Expanded, condensed

2018-02-20 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Having come up through the golden age of digital prepress, I learned early on that either everyone working on a project that was involved in type had to have the exact same fonts from the exact same foundries, or else risk any number of issues. Nothing worse than getting the finished product and

RE: Text Styles: Expanded, condensed

2018-02-20 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
vergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net Phone: 518-636-3998 Ex:11 Cell: 518-796-9332 From: Keith Martin [mailto:thatke...@mac.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 12:04 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Ralph DiMola Subject: Re: Text Styles: Expanded, condensed On 20 Feb 2018, at

Re: Text Styles: Expanded, condensed

2018-02-20 Thread Keith Martin via use-livecode
On 20 Feb 2018, at 16:34, Ralph DiMola wrote: We had many font issues over the years and I figured that the industry would get it together. Given that the font world calls eighteenth century font designs 'Modern' and early/mid 19th century sans-serifs 'Grotesque', I wouldn't hold my breath

Re: Text Styles: Expanded, condensed

2018-02-20 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Probably not. As I like to point out on occasion, everyone subscribes to standards. Their OWN standards. ;-) Bob S > On Feb 20, 2018, at 08:34 , Ralph DiMola via use-livecode > wrote: > > I started using TT and Type 1 fonts for composition back in 1994. We > had many font issues over the ye

RE: Text Styles: Expanded, condensed

2018-02-20 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
in Subject: Re: Text Styles: Expanded, condensed On 17 Feb 2018, at 16:51, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: > LC no longer manipulates text directly to produce styles, it now uses > the equivalent font. And as a typographer, let me say YAY! Distorted type hurts my soul. :( k --- Ke

Re: Text Styles: Expanded, condensed

2018-02-20 Thread Keith Martin via use-livecode
On 17 Feb 2018, at 16:51, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: LC no longer manipulates text directly to produce styles, it now uses the equivalent font. And as a typographer, let me say YAY! Distorted type hurts my soul. :( k --- Keith Martin Senior Lecturer, LCC (University of the Arts

Re: Text Styles: Expanded, condensed

2018-02-20 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
How odd. Last Friday I ran into the same thing, and came to that conclusion deductively, because I tried using bold style with a font that I know didn't have that typeface. Bob S > On Feb 17, 2018, at 08:51 , J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > wrote: > > LC no longer manipulates text direct

Re: Text Styles: Expanded, condensed

2018-02-17 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
LC no longer manipulates text directly to produce styles, it now uses the equivalent font. This happens with all text styles including bold, italic, etc. If the font family includes a styled version it is used, otherwise there is no change. I can't remember if the swap happens automatically in

Re: Text Styles: Expanded, condensed

2018-02-17 Thread Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode
Yes, Richmond, I had the same results trying to set text in LC 8.7. A script will set chars to “condensed” but the spacing doesn’t change, and the visual look is degraded. Maybe with a LC upgrade along the line somebody forgot about those styles, and no one noticed? I can understand that to main

Re: Text Styles: Expanded, condensed

2018-02-17 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
That reference is all about htmlText . . . Having a look at Revolution Media Build 950 Version 4.0.0 on Mac OS 10.7.5 . . . [Not as daft as I look: always a good idea to hang onto old, licensed versions.] I found this: set the textStyle of line 1 of field "Main" to condensed So; like Hank