Re: Mobile LC Apps Downloading Stacks After installation

2017-08-12 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Mark Waddingham wrote: > Okay so the thread from which this post came has some glaringly large > and obvious incorrect statements in it so I think it wise I correct > them. Great post. Thanks. My apologies if anything I wrote was construed as misrepresenting your opinion. Not my intention. P

Re: Mobile LC Apps Downloading Stacks After installation

2017-08-12 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
That sounds like the best approach. Whilst it might seem 'annoying' to not use code in download files, I think LiveCode still makes it easier to not have to. It is just that you have to work a little bit harder to separate content from code - and parameterise the parts (using data) which you mi

Re: Mobile LC Apps Downloading Stacks After installation

2017-08-11 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
Mark, thanks for the thorough explanation. I would go on record to say that "vision" for our use of such post/sideloading option would fall well within th UI/UX of the existing app, since, from a design point of view our goals would want it to be virtually transparent. That said, the CMS can g

Re: Mobile LC Apps Downloading Stacks After installation

2017-08-11 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-08-11 18:00, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is while telling everyone to control themselves is good, removing these capabilities from LC is bad, so if the time comes where it is necessary to do something to stop someone from behaving bad

Re: Mobile LC Apps Downloading Stacks After installation

2017-08-11 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is while telling everyone to control themselves is good, removing these capabilities from LC is bad, so if the time comes where it is necessary to do something to stop someone from behaving badly, please make sure we have a switch in place that allows th

Re: Mobile LC Apps Downloading Stacks After installation

2017-08-11 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-08-11 16:35, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: Unless I read your post incorrectly, mark, "Do" works just fine, at least Yes it does - the point I was making was that breaking the rules in the App Store could end up with us having to restrict what the LiveCode engine can do when bei

Re: Mobile LC Apps Downloading Stacks After installation

2017-08-11 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Unless I read your post incorrectly, mark, "Do" works just fine, at least for ad hoc apps, as well it better, because it is a critically important part of trying to debug mobile apps at runtime, with some of the rather annoying things that happen at runtime, like some failure in a script causing th

Re: Mobile LC Apps Downloading Stacks After installation

2017-08-11 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
oodfellows... At least, that's how I feel. >>> >>> Ralph DiMola >>> IT Director >>> Evergreen Information Services >>> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: use-l

Re: Mobile LC Apps Downloading Stacks After installation

2017-08-11 Thread Roger Eller via use-livecode
ninfo.net > > > > > > -----Original Message- > > From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On > Behalf > > Of Mark Waddingham via use-livecode > > Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 7:24 AM > > To: How to use LiveCode > > C

Re: Mobile LC Apps Downloading Stacks After installation

2017-08-11 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
at's how I feel. > > Ralph DiMola > IT Director > Evergreen Information Services > rdim...@evergreeninfo.net > > > -Original Message- > From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf > Of Mark Waddingham via use-livecode > Sent

RE: Mobile LC Apps Downloading Stacks After installation

2017-08-11 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Mark Waddingham via use-livecode Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 7:24 AM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Mark Waddingham Subject: Re: Mobile LC Apps Downloading Stacks After installation On 2017-08-11 12:20

Re: Mobile LC Apps Downloading Stacks After installation

2017-08-11 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-08-11 12:20, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode wrote: I know the reviewers at app stores are not always careful, but something like an LC player would surely get their notice. Review, from my understanding, is heavily automated (it has to be - if you think of the scale of the App Stores

Re: Mobile LC Apps Downloading Stacks After installation

2017-08-11 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Thank you, Mark. This was a great explanation. I know the reviewers at app stores are not always careful, but something like an LC player would surely get their notice. They do allow us to import JS, but JS is way more sandboxed than LC. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 11, 2017, at 3:55 AM, Mar

Re: Mobile LC Apps Downloading Stacks After installation

2017-08-11 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
Okay so the thread from which this post came has some glaringly large and obvious incorrect statements in it so I think it wise I correct them. First of all being able to submit apps to the App Stores which exist today is critically important to our ecosystem - those App Stores come with rule