RE: LC Roadmap

2021-02-19 Thread Erik Beugelaar via use-livecode
- From: use-livecode On Behalf Of Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode Sent: zaterdag 20 februari 2021 06:06 To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Cc: Curry Kenworthy Subject: Re: LC Roadmap e.beugelaar at me.com: > https://www.b4x.com if u dont want headaches. Thanks for the tip - looks pretty n

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2021-02-19 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
e.beugelaar at me.com: > https://www.b4x.com if u dont want headaches. Thanks for the tip - looks pretty neat. I like the website. Before going all-in with LiveCode, I did a lot with VB-style code. HOWEVER, I don't have any big headaches, thank God! Nor do I feel any need to try another IDE.

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2021-02-17 Thread prothero--- via use-livecode
Andre: I think if your chapters offered several ways of organizing a project, starting with beginners, and then discussing the various philosophies, say how to name variables, using Levure, setting up MVC, etc, etc. And you are right to be concerned with how quickly the information gets out of

Re: LC Roadmap

2021-02-17 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I found your approach to publish and subscribe incredibly useful. I have an app that has data grids in multiple sub stacks that each can be open or no. Many of these data grids display data from the same database table but in different sub stacks. For example, I have a devices and an accessorie

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2021-02-17 Thread Andrew at MidWest Coast Media via use-livecode
16 Feb 2021 15:26:49 + > From: Alex Tweedly > To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Subject: Re: LC Roadmap > > On 15/02/2021 12:55, Andre Garzia via use-livecode wrote: >> It is with this in mind, that I decided to create content for our >> community. Books are an e

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2021-02-17 Thread Andre Garzia via use-livecode
> On 16 Feb 2021, at 15:26, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode > wrote: > > A sample 'skeleton' app - i.e. complete but not fleshed-out. Initially it > would be for a desktop app (the first sequel will cover mobile). It would > implement "good practices" for many of the common features, with enou

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2021-02-16 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
BIG + If not for Livecode, I would not be developing at all. I am just grateful that there IS a Livecode. I am not a professional developer though, so I understand that some have issues with certain things. Bob S On Feb 15, 2021, at 4:55 AM, Andre Garzia via use-livecode mailto:use-livecode@

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2021-02-16 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
On 15/02/2021 12:55, Andre Garzia via use-livecode wrote: It is with this in mind, that I decided to create content for our community. Books are an easy value proposition. Most of our community is beyond their thirties and have a fondness (and experience) for the written word and documentation

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2021-02-15 Thread scott--- via use-livecode
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2021-02-15 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
Initial setup is a bit of a journey because Apple likes to make developers jump through hoops to prove they're worthy. But every subsequent notarization is a one-click wonder. On 2/15/21 4:25 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode wrote: Jacqueline: Thanks. Yes, I have it. Haven’t tried it yet.

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2021-02-15 Thread William Prothero via use-livecode
Jacqueline: Thanks. Yes, I have it. Haven’t tried it yet. But I’ve downloaded it. Best, Bill > On Feb 15, 2021, at 1:35 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > wrote: > > Do you use his notarization stack? Once you get it set up it's a huge > time-saver. No more Terminal commands. > > On 2/15/

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2021-02-15 Thread Jim Lambert via use-livecode
> Andre wrote: > > LC is a small company regardless of how much we love them. They can't provide > solution to all our needs. It is not because they don't want to, they have > limited resources. We can't treat LC as we treat Apple or Microsoft. So true. I absolutely marvel at how much the Live

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2021-02-15 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
Do you use his notarization stack? Once you get it set up it's a huge time-saver. No more Terminal commands. On 2/15/21 2:21 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode wrote: Codesigning is always a trudge for me because I don’t do it very often and Apple is regularly changing the parameters. So I

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2021-02-15 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
I agree, the lesson is fantastic. I was just there minutes ago helping a client set up his stack. And now we have entitlements added; that's new and much appreciated. Matthias put a lot of work into that lesson. We use it for every new Mac release. On 2/15/21 1:32 PM, Roger Guay via use-livecod

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2021-02-15 Thread William Prothero via use-livecode
Codesigning is always a trudge for me because I don’t do it very often and Apple is regularly changing the parameters. So I also very much appreciate Matthias’ lesson. Thanks from me too! Bill > On Feb 15, 2021, at 11:32 AM, Roger Guay via use-livecode > wrote: > > I definitely owe an apology

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2021-02-15 Thread Roger Guay via use-livecode
I definitely owe an apology to Matthias Rebbe for not recognizing his outstanding lesson “Codesigning and notarizing your LC standalone for distribution outside the Mac Appstore- “, including the fact of the recent update of Feb 9th. The amount of work involved in creating this lesson is mind-b

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2021-02-15 Thread ELS Prothero via use-livecode
Great to hear Andre’s input! One point I hoped to make is that there is also a possibility of monetizing a help site that is created outside the mothership but coordinates and supports it. I think this kind of resource would be a significant investment and it is unrealistic to expect that the c

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2021-02-15 Thread Andre Garzia via use-livecode
Hi Folks, > On 15 Feb 2021, at 01:46, William Prothero via use-livecode > wrote: > > Andre Garza’s post about his planning to write a book on some aspect of > Livecode programming got me thinking about this. First, I think writing books > is useful, but the way many busy folks access inform

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2021-02-14 Thread jbv via use-livecode
Le 2021-02-14 20:46, William Prothero via use-livecode a écrit : Jacqueline: I didn’t know about http://lessons.livecode.com . Thank you for letting me know of that resource. It looks very useful and I like the user feedback part. I find this a bit surprising, bec

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2021-02-14 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
BTW, I like the idea of putting a reference link to the lessons in the "This Week in LiveCode" newsletter. It's an easy thing to do and I think it would help. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On February 15, 2021 12:26:30 A

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2021-02-14 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
I had to check and the lessons are in fact in both the Help and Resources menus but they are called Tutorials. Both link to the lessons site. I never actually looked at those before, I only knew about the lessons from elsewhere and I always use a bookmark to get there. Like you, I don't want t

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2021-02-14 Thread William Prothero via use-livecode
Jacqueline: I didn’t know about http://lessons.livecode.com . Thank you for letting me know of that resource. It looks very useful and I like the user feedback part. To be clear, it is my intent to stimulate thought toward opportunities, not to complain. In a way,

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2021-02-14 Thread Roger Guay via use-livecode
I just noticed that the "Codesigning and Notarizing your LC Standalone etc” lesson was updated on Feb 9, 2021. Perhaps I misrepresented the real situation in my previous post. Roger > On Feb 14, 2021, at 2:35 PM, Roger Guay via use-livecode > wrote: > > Well, permit me to chime in here with

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2021-02-14 Thread Roger Guay via use-livecode
Well, permit me to chime in here with full knowledge that I may be out of date with what’s already available. Arguably the most important feature of LC is its muliplatformness. Recognizing that it is a moving target, We/I need and want up to date easy to use lessons on how to build standalones

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2021-02-14 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Bill Prothero wrote: > I would like to see: > Better help files that go deeper. If I gave you a thousand pages of deep material but they were unrelated to your work, would you read them? If I gave you ten pages that completely nailed the subject you've been grappling with, would you kick in

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2021-02-14 Thread Tore Nilsen via use-livecode
I am currently working as a teacher in an upper secondary school in Norway. I teach Computer Science and languages like English and Norwegian. Besides working as a teacher for more than 20 years, I have also experience from running various businesses. The combination of the two very different, b

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2021-02-14 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
>> >> >> >> >> William Prothero >> https://earthlearningsolutions.org >> >>> On Feb 14, 2021, at 7:30 AM, e.beugelaar--- via use-livecode >>> wrote: >>> >>> https://www.b4x.com if u dont want headaches. >>&g

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2021-02-14 Thread prothero--- via use-livecode
b 14, 2021, at 7:30 AM, e.beugelaar--- via use-livecode >> wrote: >> >> https://www.b4x.com if u dont want headaches. >> >> Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> >> >> >> From: us

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2021-02-14 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
There is a whole lot more at http://lessons.livecode.com. While these aren't videos, the amount of info there is impressive and lessons are added all the time. Personally I find written instructions much easier to follow and they don't require me to spend extra time watching a video and needin

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2021-02-14 Thread ELS Prothero via use-livecode
___ > From: use-livecode on behalf of Curry > Kenworthy via use-livecode > Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2021 11:31:47 AM > To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Cc: Curry Kenworthy > Subject: Re: LC Roadmap > > > JeeJeeStudio: > >> I like L

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2021-02-14 Thread Richmond via use-livecode
ivecode on behalf of Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2021 11:31:47 AM To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Cc: Curry Kenworthy Subject: Re: LC Roadmap JeeJeeStudio: > I like Livecode a lot, but it has it's limitations, > lot of bugs are not solved

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2021-02-14 Thread e.beugelaar--- via use-livecode
worthy Subject: Re: LC Roadmap JeeJeeStudio: > I like Livecode a lot, but it has it's limitations, > lot of bugs are not solved. True. Would be more accurate with "yet" added; solving bugs is ongoing! We could also say that many bugs HAVE been solved. Moderate progress.

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2021-02-14 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
JeeJeeStudio: > I like Livecode a lot, but it has it's limitations, > lot of bugs are not solved. True. Would be more accurate with "yet" added; solving bugs is ongoing! We could also say that many bugs HAVE been solved. Moderate progress. (I know, having been on the front lines of the bug-rep

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2021-02-13 Thread JeeJeeStudio via use-livecode
That's why I quit after one year subscription. I like Livecode a lot, but it has it's limitations, lot of bugs are not solved. Feature requests not implemented although asked by many. Livecode is great! Don't misunderstand and it learns a lot of people to program. But it runs behind future f

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2021-02-13 Thread Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
Hi David It is (a lie) if this has been going on for years... If they say specifcally it is to be released Jan 2021 in an effort to prevent me from cancelling my subscription and then find out it's likely not going to be around till mid 2022, it's a bit much really! Sean On Sat, 13 Feb 2021 at 1

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2021-02-13 Thread David V Glasgow via use-livecode
> On 13 Feb 2021, at 12:37 pm, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode > wrote: > > I was told last year that HTML5 deployment would see upgrades maybe by > Jan2021 LC 9.7. Hi Sean, I think that kind of aspirational statement, particularly in the world of software development, is the kind of thing

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2021-02-13 Thread Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
I was told last year that HTML5 deployment would see upgrades maybe by Jan2021 LC 9.7. However LC9.6.2 is still awaiting an RC3. So it’s just not going to happen. My client and I are severely disappointed to see that the conference set up for 2022 may be the FIRST LOOK we might see for the HTML5 up

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2021-02-12 Thread Richmond via use-livecode
I've said something to that effect earlier, at which point I was jumped all over. So, because I don't want to be jumped all over again, and because saying the 'roadmap' needs to be updated will have no effect (didn't the last 3 times), I'm NOT stating what I think. Love. kisses, and other thi