Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-20 Thread Pete
I'm happy to see in the newsletter announcement of LC 5.5 I just received that it retains "Save As" as a file menu option. Maybe Apple will ban LC from use on desktops because of that, who knows. Pete On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Tim Jones wrote: > On Mar 19, 2012, at 3:43 PM, J. Landman G

Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-20 Thread Richmond
On 03/20/2012 12:09 AM, Tim Jones wrote: On Mar 19, 2012, at 1:40 PM, Ralph DiMola wrote: What language is this article in? " "Save As" is dying. The Lion API establishes these changes." ?? "Now because of these changes, the traditional "Save As" command no longer makes since." Since?

Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-19 Thread Tim Jones
On Mar 19, 2012, at 3:43 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 3/19/12 3:25 PM, Ken Ray wrote: > >> This is actually a lot uglier when you try to "Save as" a file on a locked >> volume to another place - you get multiple steps and tirades of dialogs >> informing you why you can't save the original fil

Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-19 Thread stephen barncard
yeah, export can do it. One just has to do a lot more clicking and cleaning up the mess. It used to be so simple. I want the name of the person that thought this one up. Stupid. sqb On 19 March 2012 15:43, J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 3/19/12 3:25 PM, Ken Ray wrote: > > This is actually a lot u

Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-19 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 3/19/12 3:25 PM, Ken Ray wrote: This is actually a lot uglier when you try to "Save as" a file on a locked volume to another place - you get multiple steps and tirades of dialogs informing you why you can't save the original file (which you weren't trying to do in the first place)… Is "Expo

Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-19 Thread Mark Wieder
Ralph- Monday, March 19, 2012, 1:40:59 PM, you wrote: > What language is this article in? > " "Save As" is dying. The Lion API establishes these changes." ?? > "Now because of these changes, the traditional "Save As" command no longer > makes since." Since My guess is it was sp

Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-19 Thread Bob Sneidar
My Kool-aid is still going strong. Bob On Mar 19, 2012, at 3:09 PM, Tim Jones wrote: > On Mar 19, 2012, at 1:40 PM, Ralph DiMola wrote: > >> What language is this article in? >> " "Save As" is dying. The Lion API establishes these changes." ?? >> "Now because of these changes, the tra

Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-19 Thread Tim Jones
On Mar 19, 2012, at 1:40 PM, Ralph DiMola wrote: > What language is this article in? > " "Save As" is dying. The Lion API establishes these changes." ?? > "Now because of these changes, the traditional "Save As" command no longer > makes since." Since Uh oh, looks like somebody'

RE: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-19 Thread Ralph DiMola
ation Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Ken Ray Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 4:26 PM To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: New Xcode 4.3.1 On Mar 18, 2012, at 1:29 PM,

Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-19 Thread Ken Ray
On Mar 18, 2012, at 1:29 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 3/18/12 1:13 PM, stephen barncard wrote: >> Also they have basically de-balled two included apps that I depended on - >> Preview and TextEdit - due to the removal of the Save As feature, > > Apparently all apps will follow suit eventually:

Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-19 Thread Sergio Schvarstein
Thanks Mike ! Really a brilliant guided tour ! :-D I've got it and I am downloading it now. Thanks ++ __ Sergio Schvarstein __ El 19/03/2012, a las 18:00, use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com escribió: > Sergio, > > 1) Log into d

Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-19 Thread Bob Sneidar
I'll bet, not knowing for sure, that if you hold down the shift key when you log in, the Finder will not re-open all those apps. Bob On Mar 18, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Roger Eller wrote: > On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 10:25 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > >> >> I don't want Lion. Apparently that's moot. >

Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-19 Thread Mike Kerner
Sergio, 1) Log into developer.apple.com 2) Top left (Dev Centers) pick "iOS" 3) Scroll down to the "Downloads" section. 4) Top item is "Xcode 4.3.1 for Lion". Click on the button that says "Download XCode 4" 5) Below the break is a section that says "Download Xcode 4 for free." Below that is a su

Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-19 Thread Sergio Schvarstein
Hi, Thanks for all the answers and I didn´t expect to generate such a debate about this issue. ;-) My previous version of Xcode was the 4.2 and I couldn´t find the 4.3 in the Apple developers site, as Mike suggests. So, I will keep my 4.2 files while waiting for the "official" LC solution. I

Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-18 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 3/18/12 5:05 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Bob- Sunday, March 18, 2012, 1:53:19 PM, you wrote: Then I'm on my way to Alaska to become a professional bear hunter tour guide. Whoa! There are professional bears? In the stock market. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.c

Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-18 Thread Jerry Jensen
On Mar 18, 2012, at 3:05 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > Bob- > > Sunday, March 18, 2012, 1:53:19 PM, you wrote: > >> Then I'm on my way to Alaska to become a professional bear hunter tour guide. > > Whoa! There are professional bears? Those are the ones that: "some days the bear gets you". _

Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-18 Thread Mark Wieder
Bob- Sunday, March 18, 2012, 1:53:19 PM, you wrote: > Then I'm on my way to Alaska to become a professional bear hunter tour guide. Whoa! There are professional bears? -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-liveco

Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-18 Thread Bob Sneidar
Then I'm on my way to Alaska to become a professional bear hunter tour guide. Sent from my iPad On Mar 18, 2012, at 1:41 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > Richard- > > Sunday, March 18, 2012, 1:15:22 PM, you wrote: > >> Ha ha ha! Yes, a Dumbass mode would be very nice. I agree with >> you - I was ju

Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-18 Thread Mark Wieder
Richard- Sunday, March 18, 2012, 1:15:22 PM, you wrote: > Ha ha ha! Yes, a Dumbass mode would be very nice. I agree with > you - I was just pointing out that there are a lot of, um, dumbasses > out there. :) I do have a concern that Apple is going to slowly > make OS X look like iOS. Hopeful

Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-18 Thread Richard MacLemale
Ha ha ha! Yes, a Dumbass mode would be very nice. I agree with you - I was just pointing out that there are a lot of, um, dumbasses out there. :) I do have a concern that Apple is going to slowly make OS X look like iOS. Hopefully that doesn't happen. --- Richard MacLemale Music = http://w

Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-18 Thread Richmond
On 03/18/2012 09:51 PM, stephen barncard wrote: I just don't think making it "goof-proof" for the lowest common denominator at the expense of obliterating time proven methods that worked for the experienced the last 30 years is progress. It will just make them more dependent. Was this stuff reall

Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-18 Thread stephen barncard
I just don't think making it "goof-proof" for the lowest common denominator at the expense of obliterating time proven methods that worked for the experienced the last 30 years is progress. It will just make them more dependent. Was this stuff really that broken? Maybe there should be a "Dumbass" o

Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-18 Thread Richard MacLemale
Stephen, More dumbing down, yes, I agree... but you would be stunned at the number of people who, even though it's 2012, still don't know the difference between Save and Save As. For that matter, I still see people double-clicking in instances where you are supposed to single click, such as la

Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-18 Thread stephen barncard
More file bloat and needless BS, if you ask me... more dumbing down... On 18 March 2012 11:29, J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 3/18/12 1:13 PM, stephen barncard wrote: > >> Also they have basically de-balled two included apps that I depended on - >> Preview and TextEdit - due to the removal of the Sa

Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-18 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 3/18/12 1:13 PM, stephen barncard wrote: Also they have basically de-balled two included apps that I depended on - Preview and TextEdit - due to the removal of the Save As feature, Apparently all apps will follow suit eventually:

Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-18 Thread stephen barncard
Also they have basically de-balled two included apps that I depended on - Preview and TextEdit - due to the removal of the Save As feature, requiring a totally new non-intuitive dance to change a document (requiring many more steps), and the loss of some of the graphic features in the earlier versi

Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-18 Thread stephen barncard
I am ashamed to mention how many expletive-laced tirades I've had over this recent 'upgrade' to Lion. It all started last month with wanting to sync the calendars and contacts with all my devices after I replaced my barely functional 3g iPhone with a 4s, and finding out that this iClod stuff only

Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-18 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 3/18/12 10:25 AM, Roger Eller wrote: On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 10:25 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Roger, Pierre, etc., thanks, but I know Lion works with LiveCode. I just don't like how Lion works in general. I have collected many pages of tips on how to change its behaviors so I can work with

Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-18 Thread Mark Wieder
Stephen- Saturday, March 17, 2012, 7:57:56 PM, you wrote: > checked the logs... at the top was a reference to the 'Free' DAZ software. > perhaps it's that global again. Apply Ken Ray's patch to the debugger. That *should* fix it. Not that I've tried the ML beta myself, but I guess I'll have to

Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-18 Thread stephen barncard
The re-open thing and some other UI malfunctions can be fixed (app by app) using Tinkertool. On 18 March 2012 08:25, Roger Eller wrote: > On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 10:25 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > > > > > I don't want Lion. Apparently that's moot. > > > > -- > > Jacqueline Landman Gay |

Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-18 Thread Roger Eller
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 10:25 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > > I don't want Lion. Apparently that's moot. > > -- > Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com > HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com Really, Lion isn't so bad after you adjust its insane

Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-18 Thread Richard MacLemale
In the locked down Apple future, companies who do what those folks did might find themselves locked outside the building. Mountain Lion isn't in beta, though... the current release is Developer Preview 2. Beta comes next. And there can be big differences between developer preview and beta. I

Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-18 Thread Pierre Sahores
Hi Jacque, I had to buy a new MBP last month along the one i used mainly until yet. Some remarks in mind : The new MBP i5 2.4 Ghz 13 inches works as fine as the MBP i7 2.66 Ghz 15 inches one for all my needs with no quantifiable difference about visible speed. Lion (10.7.3) did't give me any d

Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-17 Thread stephen barncard
And Lion is the current system! What can an ordinary developer do? I have tried twice to try out Mountain Lion beta ( on a separate drive of course ) - both times TOTAL CRASH - debugger, then black screen of death. (did I just blow my NDA?) checked the logs... at the top was a reference to the '

Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-17 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 3/17/12 4:31 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: OK, You must have xCode 4.3& xCode 4.3.1 There are two copies to perform, Alas, those of us still in Snow Leopard can't run XCode 4.3.1 at all. I tried copying the files the other direction (5.1 SDK into XCode 4.2) and the simulator works fine b

Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-17 Thread Thomas McGrath III
OK, You must have xCode 4.3 & xCode 4.3.1 There are two copies to perform, right click on each of the above and 'show package contents': copy this folder from xCode.app (4.3) bundle -- Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/iPhoneSimulator.platform/Developer/SDKs/iPhoneSimulator5.0.sdk and pla

Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-17 Thread Edward D Lavieri Jr
Hi Tom, Sorry to be a simpleton on this, but I cannot seem to get this to work. Your statement that we can get 4.3.1 to work with LC 5.5rc2 is encouraging. Would you mind providing more specifics regarding what files/folders need to be copied from/to each location? On my Mac Pro, I see /Libr

Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-16 Thread Thomas McGrath III
4.3.1 does work with LC 5.5rc2 -IF you copy over both the iOS 5.0 simulator SDK and the iOS 5.0 developer SDK to their appropriate folders in the 4.3.1 app bundle. That said, You can then check out how your app will look in the retina size for iPad only in the simulator using Simulator 5.1 But y

Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-16 Thread Pierre Sahores
Using : MBP i7, OSX 10.6.8, XCode 4.2, Android SDK API 8 to 15, LC 5.5 rc2 Devices addressed trough the XCode Organizer : iPad 1, iPod Touch Devices directly addressed via the LC test button : iPhone/iPad simulator, Galaxy S2 -- Pierre Sahores mobile : 06 03 95 77 70 www.spimsco.net : la premiè

Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-16 Thread Mike Kerner
I will repeat, 4.3.1 does not work with LC at this time. Use 4.2 or 4.3. Unless Pierre has uncovered his own superpowers this afternoon there is currently no workaround. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God pu

Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-16 Thread Pierre Sahores
Hi, See inside /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/ -- Pierre Sahores mobile : 06 03 95 77 70 www.spimsco.net : la première solution saas open source et commerciale de développement sémantique préprogrammé Le 16 mars 2012 à 19:21, Sergio Schvarstein a écrit : > Hi, > > I've j

Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-16 Thread Mike Kerner
Sergio, 4.3.1 is not supported yet. 4.3 is. You can download 4.3 from Apple's dev site. As of today, there is no solution (despite multiple attempts) for using 4.3.1. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God p

New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-16 Thread Sergio Schvarstein
Hi, I've just installed the new Xcode version 4.3.1. As I can see, now it is installed in the Applications folder, instead of the Developer folder where I still have my previous version. So, the question is: How do this affect the Preferences > Mobile Support info inside LiveCode ? Must I chan