Re: Multitasking Comes to iOS, Time for LC to make it better

2013-09-09 Thread Monte Goulding
On 09/09/2013, at 8:51 PM, Richmond wrote: > "Fruitstrap" . . . no surely not . . . that sounds like the tag line of some > teenage schoolboy joke. I didn't invent the name ;-) -- Monte Goulding M E R Goulding - software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! _

Re: Multitasking Comes to iOS, Time for LC to make it better

2013-09-09 Thread Richmond
On 09/09/13 06:03, Stelios Stylianou wrote: i apologize if this is a basic question. how do we use the mergTestApp with fruitstrap? thanks "Fruitstrap" . . . no surely not . . . that sounds like the tag line of some teenage schoolboy joke. Richmond. On Jun 10, 2013, at 8:13 PM, Mon

Re: Multitasking Comes to iOS, Time for LC to make it better

2013-09-08 Thread Monte Goulding
On 09/09/2013, at 1:03 PM, Stelios Stylianou wrote: > i apologize if this is a basic question. > how do we use the mergTestApp with fruitstrap? Plug your phone in and click the button ;-) -- M E R Goulding Software development services Bespoke application development for vertical markets merg

Re: Multitasking Comes to iOS, Time for LC to make it better

2013-09-08 Thread Stelios Stylianou
i apologize if this is a basic question. how do we use the mergTestApp with fruitstrap? thanks On Jun 10, 2013, at 8:13 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: > > On 11/06/2013, at 11:35 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: > >> Sadly no, you always need the latest Xcode to drag onto the latest iOS. > > Maybe t

Re: Multitasking Comes to iOS, Time for LC to make it better

2013-06-11 Thread Randy Hengst
OK, well thank you Colin. That was easy. I loaded iOS 7 on an iPhone 4…. and so far, the two apps of mine that I've tried (as downloads from the app store) work just fine… That is really good since things broke with iOS5 and iOS6. The apps were sent to the app store in Dec 2012…. off the top o

Re: Multitasking Comes to iOS, Time for LC to make it better

2013-06-11 Thread Colin Holgate
Go into the iTunes you use for doing backups of your iPhone, and do a backup. You get there by selecting the iPhone and looking in the lower “Backups” area of the window. In the upper area, perhaps labeled “iPhone 5”, you should see a "Check for Updates" button. Option-click on that, and you can

Re: Multitasking Comes to iOS, Time for LC to make it better

2013-06-11 Thread Randy Hengst
Hi all, I've never installed a beta iOS. Can anyone point me to the instructions about doing so? I've downloaded an iOS 7 beta… now what? My version of Xcode is 4.5.2 My iPhone 4 currently has 6.1.3… which, btw, doesn't work with my current version of Xcode. I'm using Lion 10.7.4 I've chec

Re: Multitasking Comes to iOS, Time for LC to make it better

2013-06-10 Thread Gerry Orkin
I wasn't doubting you, but multiple information sources make for safer decisions :) g On 11/06/2013, at 12:22 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: > I think I was saying that it does work. Do you have more than one device, I'm > just using my iPhone 5 on iOS 7. > > > On Jun 10, 2013, at 9:55 PM, Gerry

Re: Multitasking Comes to iOS, Time for LC to make it better

2013-06-10 Thread Colin Holgate
I think I was saying that it does work. Do you have more than one device, I'm just using my iPhone 5 on iOS 7. On Jun 10, 2013, at 9:55 PM, Gerry Orkin wrote: > >Ok, but being cautious - can anyone else confirm that iPhone apps built with > >LC 6.x and installed with the xCode 5 beta are work

Re: Multitasking Comes to iOS, Time for LC to make it better

2013-06-10 Thread Colin Holgate
I have other similar options, and those do work. It's just Xcode that requires you to have the latest version. On Jun 10, 2013, at 10:13 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: > >Maybe that's just for beta... I can't remember the last time I dragged an > >app onto a device though... I have mergTestFlight

Re: Multitasking Comes to iOS, Time for LC to make it better

2013-06-10 Thread Monte Goulding
On 11/06/2013, at 11:35 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: > Sadly no, you always need the latest Xcode to drag onto the latest iOS. Maybe that's just for beta... I can't remember the last time I dragged an app onto a device though... I have mergTestFlight which builds and puts it on my phone via fruits

Re: Multitasking Comes to iOS, Time for LC to make it better

2013-06-10 Thread Gerry Orkin
Ok, but being cautious - can anyone else confirm that iPhone apps built with LC 6.x and installed with the xCode 5 beta are working fine on iOS 7? Cheers Gerry On 11/06/2013, at 11:34 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: > The thing I tried was laid out for iPad 3, and I could see the the top area >

Re: Multitasking Comes to iOS, Time for LC to make it better

2013-06-10 Thread Colin Holgate
Sadly no, you always need the latest Xcode to drag onto the latest iOS. On Jun 10, 2013, at 8:25 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: > Hmm... Xcode organiser should work with all sdks... > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please vis

Re: Multitasking Comes to iOS, Time for LC to make it better

2013-06-10 Thread Colin Holgate
The thing I tried was laid out for iPad 3, and I could see the the top area on iPhone 5, so I think it was working correctly. On Jun 10, 2013, at 8:58 PM, Gerry Orkin wrote: > So they install, but are they working ok? I'm tempted to download the iOS 7 > beta but not if my LC apps stop working

Re: Multitasking Comes to iOS, Time for LC to make it better

2013-06-10 Thread Gerry Orkin
Colin So they install, but are they working ok? I'm tempted to download the iOS 7 beta but not if my LC apps stop working :) Gerry On 11/06/2013, at 10:37 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: > I think things are works. I could drag apps onto Xcode to install them ok. > > > > ___

Re: Multitasking Comes to iOS, Time for LC to make it better

2013-06-10 Thread Colin Holgate
I think things are works. I could drag apps onto Xcode to install them ok. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/ma

Re: Multitasking Comes to iOS, Time for LC to make it better

2013-06-10 Thread Monte Goulding
On 11/06/2013, at 10:14 AM, Monte Goulding wrote: > I'm guessing each will allow the app to run for an extra 10 minute interval > when invoked. OK, was wrong here... looks like you need to retain a completion handler then execute it when you're done with the fetch. iOS then recognises if your

Re: Multitasking Comes to iOS, Time for LC to make it better

2013-06-10 Thread Monte Goulding
On 11/06/2013, at 10:15 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: > It's more the dragging onto my iPhone part that I'm thinking about. Hmm... Xcode organiser should work with all sdks... -- M E R Goulding Software development services Bespoke application development for vertical markets mergExt - There's an

Re: Multitasking Comes to iOS, Time for LC to make it better

2013-06-10 Thread Colin Holgate
It's more the dragging onto my iPhone part that I'm thinking about. On Jun 10, 2013, at 8:19 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: > >There won't be any device builds agains the iOS 7 sdk yet in LiveCode so you > >won't need Xcode 5 to test... just build using Xcode 4.6. _

Re: Multitasking Comes to iOS, Time for LC to make it better

2013-06-10 Thread Monte Goulding
On 11/06/2013, at 10:10 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: > I didn't yet install Xcode 5 to see how LiveCode apps will work. Will do that > in a while. There won't be any device builds agains the iOS 7 sdk yet in LiveCode so you won't need Xcode 5 to test... just build using Xcode 4.6. -- M E R Gouldi

Re: Multitasking Comes to iOS, Time for LC to make it better

2013-06-10 Thread Colin Holgate
So far so good. Strangely, I haven't found a way to search for an app, Spotlight seems to have gone. I didn't yet install Xcode 5 to see how LiveCode apps will work. Will do that in a while. On Jun 10, 2013, at 8:00 PM, Mike Kerner wrote: > For those of you at didn't know, ios 7 beta is now

Re: Multitasking Comes to iOS, Time for LC to make it better

2013-06-10 Thread Monte Goulding
On 11/06/2013, at 9:54 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: > Suppose you need to know the user's location, you may not get that while the > device is shut down, or asleep, but if the user turns it on to get the latest > weather, your LiveCode app would get a location update. Nope, that's already availabl

Re: Multitasking Comes to iOS, Time for LC to make it better

2013-06-10 Thread Monte Goulding
On 11/06/2013, at 9:46 AM, Monte Goulding wrote: > > On 11/06/2013, at 9:34 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: > >> There are a number of techniques they're using. Apparently, the OS watches >> for when you tend to use apps, and will keep them updated based on that. >> Also, if you wake up your device

Re: Multitasking Comes to iOS, Time for LC to make it better

2013-06-10 Thread Mike Kerner
For those of you at didn't know, ios 7 beta is now available for download on newer iphones and ipod touches at the beta dev center. On Monday, June 10, 2013, Colin Holgate wrote: > Suppose you need to know the user's location, you may not get that while > the device is shut down, or asleep, bu

Re: Multitasking Comes to iOS, Time for LC to make it better

2013-06-10 Thread Colin Holgate
Suppose you need to know the user's location, you may not get that while the device is shut down, or asleep, but if the user turns it on to get the latest weather, your LiveCode app would get a location update. Or something on those lines. On Jun 10, 2013, at 7:46 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: >

Re: Multitasking Comes to iOS, Time for LC to make it better

2013-06-10 Thread Monte Goulding
On 11/06/2013, at 9:34 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: > There are a number of techniques they're using. Apparently, the OS watches > for when you tend to use apps, and will keep them updated based on that. > Also, if you wake up your device for any reason, the OS will make sure that > any app that n

Re: Multitasking Comes to iOS, Time for LC to make it better

2013-06-10 Thread Colin Holgate
There are a number of techniques they're using. Apparently, the OS watches for when you tend to use apps, and will keep them updated based on that. Also, if you wake up your device for any reason, the OS will make sure that any app that needs an update will get it then, while power is on. I jus

Re: Multitasking Comes to iOS, Time for LC to make it better

2013-06-10 Thread Monte Goulding
On 11/06/2013, at 7:23 AM, Mike Kerner wrote: > I'm not immediately as worreid about getting multithreading/multitasking in > LC, because there are ways around that, if necessary. On mobile, though, > there are significant advantages to having better/more capability while the > app is not in the

Re: Multitasking Comes to iOS, Time for LC to make it better

2013-06-10 Thread Dar Scott
Whoops, I misunderstood. Yeah, I agree. First, for externals, perhaps, and then some message/callback handlers in scripts. (I would characterize "getting around" as a different style or paradigm, though.) Dar On Jun 10, 2013, at 3:23 PM, Mike Kerner wrote: > I'm not immediately as worre

Re: Multitasking Comes to iOS, Time for LC to make it better

2013-06-10 Thread Mike Kerner
I'm not immediately as worreid about getting multithreading/multitasking in LC, because there are ways around that, if necessary. On mobile, though, there are significant advantages to having better/more capability while the app is not in the front. On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 5:06 PM, Dar Scott wr

Re: Multitasking Comes to iOS, Time for LC to make it better

2013-06-10 Thread Dar Scott
Perhaps this can be exploited to allow the event model to work better. Better and more messages and callbacks can allow the event model to get things done while people are doing other things. On the desktop, we might be getting command-line LiveCode back. This means that some tasks can be p

Re: Multitasking Comes to iOS, Time for LC to make it better

2013-06-10 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Mike Kerner wrote: > Well, now that we are going to get multitasking, I would love to see some > new tweaks from LC so we can take advantage, like, for example, being able > to push data updates live, while the device's owner is doing something > less, umm, produc

Multitasking Comes to iOS, Time for LC to make it better

2013-06-10 Thread Mike Kerner
Well, now that we are going to get multitasking, I would love to see some new tweaks from LC so we can take advantage, like, for example, being able to push data updates live, while the device's owner is doing something less, umm, productive. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the E