Re: VLC and GPL and LC on iOS (was: Re: MergEXT now included with Indy/Business IDE)

2016-05-07 Thread Richard Gaskin
Kay C Lan wrote: On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 11:57 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: There are many open source licenses. ...just because a system succeeds doesn't mean it can't be made better. Of course. Ours is an imperfect world. No single license can serve all goals, and all systems can always b

Re: VLC and GPL and LC on iOS (was: Re: MergEXT now included with Indy/Business IDE)

2016-05-06 Thread Kay C Lan
On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 11:57 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > There are many open source licenses. Yes, just like there are many political systems - all supposedly for the betterment 'of the people'. Even in democratic societies the variations are tremendous - and their success also. And just becaus

Re: VLC and GPL and LC on iOS (was: Re: MergEXT now included with Indy/Business IDE)

2016-05-06 Thread Peter M. Brigham
On May 6, 2016, at 12:05 PM, John Dixon wrote: > No Richard... it is not a limitation of the language ! You just have > a different perspective ...:-) > > Richard Gaskin wrote... > 'This is a limitation of English, in which "free" refers to both "gratis" > and "libre".' Off topic, but I have a

RE: VLC and GPL and LC on iOS (was: Re: MergEXT now included with Indy/Business IDE)

2016-05-06 Thread John Dixon
t; Subject: Re: VLC and GPL and LC on iOS (was: Re: MergEXT now included with > Indy/Business IDE) > From: ambassa...@fourthworld.com > Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 08:57:42 -0700 > > Bob Sneidar wrote: > > > On May 5, 2016, at 21:33 , Kay C Lan wrote: > >> Pick yo

Re: VLC and GPL and LC on iOS (was: Re: MergEXT now included with Indy/Business IDE)

2016-05-06 Thread Richard Gaskin
Bob Sneidar wrote: > On May 5, 2016, at 21:33 , Kay C Lan wrote: >> Pick your license carefully - you should ALWAYS read the fine print. > > This is why I am always leary of people who want to change the world. > The devil is always in the details. I prefer Ludwig Mies van der Rohe's variant, "G

RE: VLC and GPL and LC on iOS (was: Re: MergEXT now included with Indy/Business IDE)

2016-05-06 Thread Dave Kilroy
Long ago, I was a bit leery of using products recommended by Timothy Leary > Yes , the devil is in the detail... 'leery', is the word you were looking for > ?... :-) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to

RE: VLC and GPL and LC on iOS (was: Re: MergEXT now included with Indy/Business IDE)

2016-05-06 Thread John Dixon
Yes , the devil is in the detail... 'leery', is the word you were looking for ?... :-) > From: bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com > To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Subject: Re: VLC and GPL and LC on iOS (was: Re: MergEXT now included with > Indy/Business IDE) > Date:

Re: VLC and GPL and LC on iOS (was: Re: MergEXT now included with Indy/Business IDE)

2016-05-06 Thread Bob Sneidar
This is why I am always leary of people who want to change the world. The devil is always in the details. Bob S On May 5, 2016, at 21:33 , Kay C Lan mailto:lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com>> wrote: On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 1:34 PM, Monte Goulding mailto:mo...@appisle.net>> wrote: We worked hard with

Re: VLC and GPL and LC on iOS (was: Re: MergEXT now included with Indy/Business IDE)

2016-05-05 Thread Kay C Lan
On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 1:34 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: > > We worked hard with all major copyright holders to not repeat history and > we are confident to have achieved this goal. > > My understanding of the situation is that many contributors to VLC were opposed to the stance of a few zealots at

Re: VLC and GPL and LC on iOS (was: Re: MergEXT now included with Indy/Business IDE)

2016-05-04 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 5 May 2016, at 3:34 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: > > Mozilla Pubic License Oh dear… that could be something else entirely ;-) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your

Re: VLC and GPL and LC on iOS (was: Re: MergEXT now included with Indy/Business IDE)

2016-05-04 Thread Monte Goulding
It appears to be in the store under the Mozilla Pubic License. From a press release: VLC for iOS is fully open-source. Its code will be available online by tomorrow and is bi-licensed under both the Mozilla Public License Version 2 as well as the GNU General Public License Version 2 or later. T

VLC and GPL and LC on iOS (was: Re: MergEXT now included with Indy/Business IDE)

2016-05-04 Thread James Hale
In the referenced thread Monte mentioned something about fmpeg and it associated libraries and licensing. Today I was notified of an update the VLC and remembered how that is now available on the App Store. Looking at Videolan's site, VLC is GPL 2. How is it that it can be distributed under Apple

Re: MergEXT now included with Indy/Business IDE

2016-05-04 Thread stephen barncard
On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 8:37 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: > mergAV works on OS X that's the part I needed to know. Thanks. sqb Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA - mixstream.org ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit

Re: MergEXT now included with Indy/Business IDE

2016-05-04 Thread Monte Goulding
mergAV works on OS X because AVFoundation is very similar on iOS and OS X but it would be a major project to create similar functionality for the other platforms. It would probably need to be a separate FFmpeg external and then that external probably wouldn’t be iOS compatible because of the dif

Re: MergEXT now included with Indy/Business IDE

2016-05-04 Thread stephen barncard
On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 8:25 PM, stephen barncard < stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com> wrote: > will mergAV work on the desktop, or is it planned? never mind. The platforms seem to be clearly shown at mergext.com Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA - mixstream.org __

Re: MergEXT now included with Indy/Business IDE

2016-05-04 Thread stephen barncard
belated question- sorry if it's been asked before... will mergAV work on the desktop, or is it planned? hope I'm not being annoying. thanks sqb Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA - mixstream.org On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 5:43 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: > The integration of the externals made i

Re: MergEXT now included with Indy/Business IDE

2016-05-04 Thread Stephen MacLean
Thanks Monte! > On May 4, 2016, at 8:43 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: > > The integration of the externals made it into LC 8.0.0 but the changes to the > standalone builder to make them easier to use didn’t because of the risk of > introducing regressions to such a critical component. Ali is on it

Re: MergEXT now included with Indy/Business IDE

2016-05-04 Thread Monte Goulding
The integration of the externals made it into LC 8.0.0 but the changes to the standalone builder to make them easier to use didn’t because of the risk of introducing regressions to such a critical component. Ali is on it though so you should see that happen very soon. For now either copy them ou

MergEXT now included with Indy/Business IDE

2016-05-04 Thread Stephen MacLean
Very nice! Question: How do you access them from inside the IDE? I see them in the package contents, but nothing related to them in the IDE. i.e. nothing in the plugins menu, etc. Thanks! Steve MacLean ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@li