Re: LIVECODE running in LION

2011-06-09 Thread Bob Sneidar
And then we could ALL finally get some rest. Bob On Jun 9, 2011, at 3:41 PM, David C. wrote: >> truth be said: Microsoft makes great video games, the XBOX 360 is a great >> machine for both players and developers but on the other hand, their desktop >> computing business well... you know >

Re: LIVECODE running in LION

2011-06-09 Thread David C.
> truth be said: Microsoft makes great video games, the XBOX 360 is a great > machine for both players and developers but on the other hand, their desktop > computing business well... you know Perhaps we can convince Microsoft to start building their own proprietary hardware, just like Apple,

Re: LIVECODE running in LION

2011-06-09 Thread Bob Sneidar
A-FREAKEN-MEN!!! On Jun 9, 2011, at 2:06 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > I always loved John Vokey's sigline: > >Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. >See > >-Dr. John R. Vokey > > :)

Re: LIVECODE running in LION

2011-06-09 Thread Richard Gaskin
I always loved John Vokey's sigline: Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See -Dr. John R. Vokey :) I've been using OpenOffice for the last two years, and recently switched to its younger brother LibreOffi

Re: LIVECODE running in LION

2011-06-09 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 06/09/2011 11:41 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: I wish I could do that in a corporate environment. I would have people bleating to the powers that be that Bob is trying to ruin everything and destroy all the data faster than you could say two whiskers. Even if I've achieved nothing else here in Pl

Re: LIVECODE running in LION

2011-06-09 Thread Bob Sneidar
I wish I could do that in a corporate environment. I would have people bleating to the powers that be that Bob is trying to ruin everything and destroy all the data faster than you could say two whiskers. Bob On Jun 9, 2011, at 1:11 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > Bob- > > Thursday, June 9, 2011,

Re: LIVECODE running in LION

2011-06-09 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 06/09/2011 11:11 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Bob- Thursday, June 9, 2011, 9:28:39 AM, you wrote: So by that rule, we should have skipped the next three versions of MS Office and Server, since Server 2000 and Office 2000? ;-) I did. About six months ago I switched to Open Office and have never l

Re: LIVECODE running in LION

2011-06-09 Thread Mark Wieder
Bob- Thursday, June 9, 2011, 9:28:39 AM, you wrote: > So by that rule, we should have skipped the next three versions > of MS Office and Server, since Server 2000 and Office 2000? ;-) I did. About six months ago I switched to Open Office and have never looked back. Just waslked away from my MSOf

Re: LIVECODE running in LION

2011-06-09 Thread Andre Garzia
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Richmond Mathewson < richmondmathew...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 06/09/2011 07:28 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > >> So by that rule, we should have skipped the next three versions of MS >> Office and Server, since Server 2000 and Office 2000? ;-) >> > > Yeah, well, my experi

Re: LIVECODE running in LION

2011-06-09 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 06/09/2011 07:28 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: So by that rule, we should have skipped the next three versions of MS Office and Server, since Server 2000 and Office 2000? ;-) Yeah, well, my experience is that if a product says "Microsoft" I don't even bother to check for zeros or not . . . I sta

Re: LIVECODE running in LION

2011-06-09 Thread Bob Sneidar
So by that rule, we should have skipped the next three versions of MS Office and Server, since Server 2000 and Office 2000? ;-) Bob On Jun 8, 2011, at 11:52 PM, FlexibleLearning wrote: > > Rule of Thumb: "Never buy anything with a zero on the end." > > :) > > Hugh Senior > FLCo > > > > C

Re: LIVECODE running in LION

2011-06-09 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 06/09/2011 09:52 AM, FlexibleLearning wrote: Rule of Thumb: "Never buy anything with a zero on the end." :) In the light of recent experiences I have been having with Ubuntu one may wish to expand that: "Never do anything with a zero on the end." Hugh Senior FLCo Colin Holgate wrote

Re: LIVECODE running in LION

2011-06-08 Thread FlexibleLearning
Rule of Thumb: "Never buy anything with a zero on the end." :) Hugh Senior FLCo Colin Holgate wrote My last attempt to install Lion resulted in a drive that is so unhappy that I can't even format it using Terminal. DiskWarrior makes a little chuckling sound when I try to use it to see the dr

Re: LIVECODE running in LION

2011-06-08 Thread Pierre Sahores
Thanks Richard. Interesting... Le 8 juin 2011 à 17:37, Richard Gaskin a écrit : > René Micout wrote: > >> Yes I know, but in Lion (like in iOS) only the dark part of the scroll bar >> is visible, not the "pipe..." (?) > > I started to write one of my TL/DR posts in reply, but as a courtesy to

Re: LIVECODE running in LION

2011-06-08 Thread Roger Eller
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: > It's true that the drive's time may have come, but hopefully I can find a > way to reformat it. > > This is on my old MacBook Pro, so I didn't mind dedicating it to Lion > testing. > > Intel Macs can boot from most PC utility CDs. SpinRite wi

Re: LIVECODE running in LION

2011-06-08 Thread Colin Holgate
It's true that the drive's time may have come, but hopefully I can find a way to reformat it. This is on my old MacBook Pro, so I didn't mind dedicating it to Lion testing. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this ur

Re: LIVECODE running in LION

2011-06-08 Thread Nonsanity
I'll agree that's what it sounds like. Though it's not THAT much of a coincidence. Installing a new OS does a LOT of reading and writing to the drive, including a lot of writing to sectors that are usually fairly static when just using the OS. It's probably more likely for a drive to fail under th

Re: LIVECODE running in LION

2011-06-08 Thread Bob Sneidar
That sounds like a bad drive. I know the coincidence is stunning, but it's possible. Bob On Jun 8, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: > My last attempt to install Lion resulted in a drive that is so unhappy that I > can't even format it using Terminal. DiskWarrior makes a little chucklin

Re: LIVECODE running in LION

2011-06-08 Thread stephen barncard
I think we were warned by Apple Dev that Lion is a beta and to dedicate a partition or drive for the testing, which is what I did. People on laptops are outa luck, it's probably hard to 'undo'. We theoretically shouldn't be talking about it, draconian NDA and all that. On 8 June 2011 09:59, Colin

Re: LIVECODE running in LION

2011-06-08 Thread Colin Holgate
My last attempt to install Lion resulted in a drive that is so unhappy that I can't even format it using Terminal. DiskWarrior makes a little chuckling sound when I try to use it to see the drive, and Disk Utility has no clue either. ___ use-livecode

Re: LIVECODE running in LION

2011-06-08 Thread stephen barncard
I certainly don't want my desktop to turn into a tablet or phone! On 8 June 2011 09:43, Andre Garzia wrote: > I can see the future, and right now I see myself going back to linux very > soon... if LiveCode had RevBrowser support on Linux and a FreeBSD engine, I > would be really happy. > Stephe

Re: LIVECODE running in LION

2011-06-08 Thread Andre Garzia
I can see the future, and right now I see myself going back to linux very soon... if LiveCode had RevBrowser support on Linux and a FreeBSD engine, I would be really happy. On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Warren Samples wrote: > On Wednesday, June 08, 2011 11:14:12 AM J. Landman Gay wrote: > > O

Re: LIVECODE running in LION

2011-06-08 Thread stephen barncard
yes I am just a reporter. No that is not metal, just gray. I don't know what's up with the default button. sqb On 8 June 2011 02:52, Mark Schonewille wrote: > Hi Stephen, > > Nothing to blame you for of course, but I can't help noticing: > - the buttons in the tab menu button are still 1 or 2

Re: LIVECODE running in LION

2011-06-08 Thread Warren Samples
On Wednesday, June 08, 2011 11:14:12 AM J. Landman Gay wrote: > On one hand, you can't immediately see > where you are in the document, but on the other hand, a quick touch > brings that up and the remainder of the time the scrollbars stay out of > the way Since we're sharing (and it does rela

Re: LIVECODE running in LION

2011-06-08 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 6/8/11 10:37 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: René Micout wrote: Yes I know, but in Lion (like in iOS) only the dark part of the scroll bar is visible, not the "pipe..." (?) I started to write one of my TL/DR posts in reply, but as a courtesy to the subscribers here I decided to just post it at t

Re: LIVECODE running in LION

2011-06-08 Thread Richard Gaskin
René Micout wrote: Yes I know, but in Lion (like in iOS) only the dark part of the scroll bar is visible, not the "pipe..." (?) I started to write one of my TL/DR posts in reply, but as a courtesy to the subscribers here I decided to just post it at the LiveCode Journal blog instead:

Re: LIVECODE running in LION

2011-06-08 Thread Warren Samples
On Wednesday, June 08, 2011 09:50:16 AM Andre Garzia wrote: > I don't think I like it (just for personal reasons, nothing technical) > > cheers > andre *GASP* Blasphemy (snicker, snicker) - ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.ru

Re: LIVECODE running in LION

2011-06-08 Thread Andre Garzia
Pierre, The problem here was that my snow leopard dvd was at another place so I had no way to boot from a different startup disk to recover the main disk... now it is done. I advise you to wait till it is released, I just installed DP4 and I don't think I like it (just for personal reasons, nothi

Re: LIVECODE running in LION

2011-06-08 Thread Pierre Sahores
Andre, Along the DiskWarrior disk recovery tool always at hand if needed..., i use the free SmartReporter disk integrity tool for years and it would perhaps help in such cases. Lion ?... I did't install its DPs and i suspect i will wait for the final public release to test it... Best, Pierre

Re: LIVECODE running in LION

2011-06-08 Thread Andre Garzia
My lion installation failed four times until I managed to boot from other media and used disk utility to repair the HD, mind you that the HD was working fine with Snow Leopard. My machine is a macbook pro with intel core 2 duo and 4GB of RAM. I find the system slower than with Snow Leopard. Also o

Re: LIVECODE running in LION

2011-06-08 Thread René Micout
Hello Sarah, Yes I know, but in Lion (like in iOS) only the dark part of the scroll bar is visible, not the "pipe..." (?) René Le 8 juin 2011 à 12:54, Sarah Reichelt a écrit : > On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 8:02 PM, René Micout > wrote: >> Hello Stephen, >> Some problem with scroll bars... ?! >> Ren

Re: LIVECODE running in LION

2011-06-08 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 8:02 PM, René Micout wrote: > Hello Stephen, > Some problem with scroll bars... ?! > René No René - that is how scroll bars look in Lion. And they work in the opposite direction i.e. they are designed for trackpad swiping rather than mouse clicking. Cheers, Sarah

Re: LIVECODE running in LION

2011-06-08 Thread René Micout
Hello Stephen, Some problem with scroll bars... ?! René Le 8 juin 2011 à 11:10, stephen barncard a écrit : > LIVECODE eems to be running just fine in the 64 bit OS. > > And boy the UI is subtle and beautiful > > 'Native Look and Feel' indeed. > > http://fulton.barncard.com/downloads/Liveco

Re: LIVECODE running in LION

2011-06-08 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Stephen, Nothing to blame you for of course, but I can't help noticing: - the buttons in the tab menu button are still 1 or 2 pixela off - what happened to the default button in the Ask dialog? - is that a "metal" window? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Softwa

Re: LIVECODE running in LION

2011-06-08 Thread Sarah Reichelt
I have found with a previously compiled standalone, that the colors of some interface elements are weird - fields going pink, tab buttons dark gray. But this may be because the app was not built in Lion. More seriously, AppleScript has changed, so any apps that use AppleScript may have problems. I

LIVECODE running in LION

2011-06-08 Thread stephen barncard
LIVECODE eems to be running just fine in the 64 bit OS. And boy the UI is subtle and beautiful 'Native Look and Feel' indeed. http://fulton.barncard.com/downloads/Livecode462dp1RuningInLion.png sqb btw, everything is faster and smoother with the new OS. With a fresh install pretty speed.