Re: GLXFramework [ad] SpiceKit

2011-05-12 Thread Mark Talluto
Thanks for the kind words Andre. We are almost done with our v1 API. I will get you a copy asap. Best regards, Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com On May 5, 2011, at 10:51 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: > I've seen SpiceKit during the conference and I Like It! > > You have my [LIKE] faceb

Re: GLXFramework [ad] SpiceKit

2011-05-12 Thread Mark Talluto
Hi William, We have received inquires from a variety of software developers that cover the gamut with unique needs. Our business modal is very accommodating and tailored to work with the needs of our clients. The service is free to setup and try out. We only charge a reasonable percentage on

Re: GLXFramework [ad] SpiceKit

2011-05-06 Thread william humphrey
Looks real interesting. The brochure doesn't mention your method of earning money. I hope you have a plan for real small distribution at high per unit cost (common method for custom vertical market software) On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 1:51 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: > I've seen SpiceKit during the conf

Re: GLXFramework [ad] SpiceKit

2011-05-05 Thread Andre Garzia
I've seen SpiceKit during the conference and I Like It! You have my [LIKE] facebook thing! On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Mark Talluto wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On May 2, 2011, at 12:49 AM, Todd Geist wrote: > > > > I have just started working with it as well, and I spoke with Trevor > about >

Re: GLXFramework [ad] SpiceKit

2011-05-05 Thread Mark Talluto
> > > > > On May 2, 2011, at 12:49 AM, Todd Geist wrote: > > I have just started working with it as well, and I spoke with Trevor about > it. I think that the docs are bit out of date. So I would say yes that it > is probably likely. > > > However, I have managed to make some good progress

Re: GLXFramework

2011-05-05 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Marty, Thanks again for helping me as well. -- Tom McGrath III http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net On May 5, 2011, at 5:11 PM, Marty Knapp wrote: > I've been using the GLX Framework for the past year or so and it is a great > piece of software. Trevor has put a ton of work into t

Re: GLXFramework

2011-05-05 Thread Marty Knapp
I've been using the GLX Framework for the past year or so and it is a great piece of software. Trevor has put a ton of work into this and provides it to the community at no cost - a big thank you to Trevor. I don't use it for all my projects, but it's a vital part of my toolkit. Marty Knapp

Re: GLXFramework

2011-05-05 Thread Thomas McGrath III
As the OP I think that once you spend some time with GLX_Framework it meets all of these needs and then some. It is very powerful and can be daunting if you are not looking for 'all' of it's functionality at first. But once it is set up and you get used to what is what then it "ain't that bad".

Re: GLXFramework

2011-05-05 Thread Richard Gaskin
Todd Geist wrote: Frameworks exist for many other languages. PHP, Java, Groovy, Ruby, Python, all have multiple frameworks. Ruby simply would not be the big deal it is today if it had not been for Rails. It would be great if Live Code had one. And here you are, using one. :) Personally I pref

Re: GLXFramework

2011-05-05 Thread Todd Geist
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Todd Geist wrote: > > When I say "App". I mean something far more than a Stack or a script. I > mean a maintainable, deployable, updatable application, that uses a > reasonable approximation of contemporary UI and Interaction. Something that > has a chance of maki

Re: GLXFramework

2011-05-05 Thread Todd Geist
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > I dunno I think it's pretty dam easy out of the box! I mean, I don't have > to worry about creating windows or menus or buttons or fields from scratch, > someone did that for me already. I don't even have to think about how to get > text from

Re: GLXFramework

2011-05-05 Thread Bob Sneidar
I dunno I think it's pretty dam easy out of the box! I mean, I don't have to worry about creating windows or menus or buttons or fields from scratch, someone did that for me already. I don't even have to think about how to get text from the user, manage memory, etc it all just works. I didn't th

Re: GLXFramework

2011-05-05 Thread Pete
As a relatively new user (couple of years), I wholeheartedly agree with the framework concept. LC touts itself as being easy to use because of its English syntax but the reality is that its learning curve is extremely steep. I'm pretty sure there's a large number of people out there who have simpl

Re: GLXFramework

2011-05-05 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 3:35 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > > Just to play devil's advocate: I find that GLX is overkill for almost all > the apps I create. I prefer to use only code that actually applies to my > project. I have my own set of common handlers and functions that I insert as > needed, whi

Re: GLXFramework

2011-05-04 Thread Todd Geist
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 12:35 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > > The final argument against an official framework is that people would tend > to use it without understanding the underlying concepts involved. Once you > have those, building an app isn't really that difficult. > Hi Jacque, I am not real

Re: GLXFramework

2011-05-04 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 5/4/11 2:17 PM, william humphrey wrote: Tod - you're comments about Framework are excellent. I too wish that LiveCode chose Framework as the fully supported way to work with applications. I integrate a Valentina database into my application and find it truely difficult to make stand-alone buil

Re: GLXFramework

2011-05-04 Thread william humphrey
Tod - you're comments about Framework are excellent. I too wish that LiveCode chose Framework as the fully supported way to work with applications. I integrate a Valentina database into my application and find it truely difficult to make stand-alone builds for Windows and MacOS although I find the

Re: GLXFramework

2011-05-04 Thread Todd Geist
Hello, I haven't needed to do updates yet. So I can't really tell you if that works yet. I have a lot of other non Framework code to write, first :>) But this thread makes me thing of a related topic. Why is it so hard to build an application in Live Code? Not a stack, but an actual applicatio

Re: GLXFramework

2011-05-03 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Todd, Have you gotten any further with the framework? I am mostly concerned with the ability to auto check for updates. I am willing to give up on the built-in undo and even most of the externals for now. But with out the auto check for updates I can't really use this framework. Q: Do you need

Re: GLXFramework

2011-05-02 Thread stephen barncard
Remo is still an active, viable product and Jerry Daniels does provide support. I use it every day. On 2 May 2011 19:25, Thomas McGrath III wrote: > > One thing is the altPlugins no longer update and Remo & (what ever else it > has been called) still works but has no support. > > > -- Tom McGrat

Re: GLXFramework

2011-05-02 Thread Thomas McGrath III
One good thing about attempting to use the GLXframework is that I "found" all of my old plugins and started to use them again. It is like old friends come to visit. Save and Archive, Auto Save, Layout Manager. tm|color, tm|gradient, tm|audio, Inspection Gadget, etc. One thing is the

Re: GLXFramework

2011-05-01 Thread Thomas McGrath III
I have corrupted the launcher.rev twice now trying to include externals int the framework. I don't know what I will do when I need the externals, yet. When I include them in the standalone builder they don't show up with the Mac builds. THe windows builds do include the externals. So if I move t

Re: GLXFramework

2011-05-01 Thread Todd Geist
I have just started working with it as well, and I spoke with Trevor about it. I think that the docs are bit out of date. So I would say yes that it is probably likely. However, I have managed to make some good progress with it and I am pretty out of shape LC wise having been gone since rev 2 s

GLXFramework

2011-05-01 Thread Thomas McGrath III
I am going through the screensteps tutorial/documents on how to use this framework and I notice that they reference some things that are not necessarily happening in the process. Like add a stack does not produce a dialog "Is this a window or a library?". Is this normal or expected? -- Tom Mc