Re: Foundation Framework

2017-01-04 Thread J. Landman Gay
LC could definitely be extended to do anything. But the team has limited resources and chooses new features carefully depending on a number of factors, and one person's need may not be enough to justify the work. In the spirit of OSS, we now have a way to implement those extensions ourselves.

Re: Foundation Framework

2017-01-04 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Thank you for a very clear explanation which improved the taste of my breakfast no end. Although . . . it still doesn't quite explain why we need LCB to do some "heavy lifting": why can LC not be extended to encompass that? Richmond. On 1/3/17 11:40 pm, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 1/3/17 1:54

Re: Foundation Framework

2017-01-03 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 1/3/17 4:32 PM, hh wrote: And that's why we need a lot of typical and good examples for those who wish to use it (JLG:) "without understanding a single line of the underlying code". But if it is as with until now shared widgets, then there will be again less than 64 ... True, and I did take

Re: Foundation Framework

2017-01-03 Thread hh
The big problem since several months: A lot of people are speaking about what may be done, may be soon. Not about what can be done, showing working examples. All 'examples' listed in this thread need LCB and most of them especially a FFI that may be available, may be soon, may be for java only. Th

Re: Foundation Framework

2017-01-03 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 1/3/17 1:54 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: I wonder how many programmers are going to spend their money on LiveCode if they are aware that at a certain point they are going to have to leverage one or more other programming languages to achieve certain things. No one needs to learn any other l

Re: Foundation Framework

2017-01-03 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 3:51 AM JB wrote: > > > L>llLearning C will help even if for some reason > With apologies that Twain . . . *learning* C is easy--I've done it dozens of times. *remembering* it a few weeks after the project is another story .. . ___

Re: Foundation Framework

2017-01-03 Thread Bob Sneidar
Richmond, don't make me pull out my "LC is like a constructor set" analogy again!!! Bob S On Jan 3, 2017, at 11:54 , Richmond Mathewson mailto:richmondmathew...@gmail.com>> wrote: This whole thing looks like an awful sort of confession of "F". ___

Re: Foundation Framework

2017-01-03 Thread Bob Sneidar
tand the purpose of this thread: Foundation Framework is "prepackaged" code, also LCB. So could you please give us one simple example of what you mean with "you can use its power inside of a stack instead of writing extensions" (with the help of C/C++/ObjC only). Thanks. _

Re: Foundation Framework

2017-01-03 Thread Richmond Mathewson
t;. HyperCard began to fall apart when it started having to have to use AppleScript for certain things . . . Richmond. On 1/3/17 9:19 pm, hh wrote: JB wrote: The Livecode team imported Apple’s Foundation Framework so you can use its power inside of a stack instead of writing extensions. JB w

Re: Foundation Framework

2017-01-03 Thread hh
>> JB wrote: >> The Livecode team imported Apple’s Foundation >> Framework so you can use its power inside of a >> stack instead of writing extensions. > JB wrote also: > If you want it all prepackaged ask the > Livecode team to use the samples in > widge

Re: Foundation Framework

2017-01-03 Thread Bob Sneidar
On Jan 3, 2017, at 07:10 , JB mailto:sund...@pacifier.com>> wrote: I did what I could to provide some good examples to help people learn. If you are not making any mistakes then you are not learning anything. If you are not making any mistakes, it's likely that you don't NEED to learn anythin

Re: Foundation Framework

2017-01-03 Thread JB
I did what I could to provide some good examples to help people learn. If you are not making any mistakes then you are not learning anything. If you want it all prepackaged ask the Livecode team to use the samples in widgets. They will do what they see is financially beneficial so your money spe

Re: Foundation Framework

2017-01-03 Thread hh
> JB wrote: > Over a year ago they said Foundation was > imported and you can even use pointers. I > don’t have anymore info about it. JB, thanks. A simple example of an already available foundation function and a link to a header listing others is here: http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?p

Re: Foundation Framework

2017-01-03 Thread JB
value the code save it while you can. JB > On Jan 3, 2017, at 3:09 AM, hh wrote: > >> JB wrote: >> The Livecode team imported Apple’s Foundation >> Framework so you can use its power inside of a >> stack instead of writing extensions. It will be a >> li

Re: Foundation Framework

2017-01-03 Thread hh
> JB wrote: > The Livecode team imported Apple’s Foundation > Framework so you can use its power inside of a > stack instead of writing extensions. It will be a > little slower than an extension but in many cases > the loss of speed will not be noticeable. JB, are you speakin

Foundation Framework

2017-01-02 Thread JB
The Livecode team imported Apple’s Foundation Framework so you can use its power inside of a stack instead of writing extensions. It will be a little slower than an extension but in many cases the loss of speed will not be noticeable. To access all the power of foundation you need to know