Re: Fields Have Labels

2015-01-21 Thread Scott Rossi
Going back a few days on this one: > Try this in a new stack with one field. It works: > > set the label of field 1 to "Label Test" > put the label of field 1 I remember discovering this a long time ago, and then remembered why I never use it: the property is not saved. When the stack is c

Re: Fields Have Labels

2015-01-13 Thread FlexibleLearning.com
Hi Bill, You should contact Pete Haworth if you have problems with lcstackbrowser... mine is ControlBrowser. Similar, but very different! With best regards, Hugh Senior FLCo Original message: Hugh, Just a "heads up" re your lcstackbrowser app. I found that it interferes with some of my code.

Re: Fields Have Labels

2015-01-13 Thread Peter Haworth
On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 11:25 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Let's figure out what we need for a wonderfully graceful implementation, > and see that it happens. It's QCC Report 14379 if anyone wants to follow it or add to it. Pete lcSQL Software Home of lcStackBrowser

Re: Fields Have Labels

2015-01-13 Thread Richard Gaskin
I'm indulging in a hat switch here with my CM sig because I think this aspect of the discussion may be helpful for many community interests: Peter Haworth wrote: > Wouldn't expect it to be implemented any time soon for the reason > you pointed out. I just want to get it on record so it's not >

Re: Fields Have Labels

2015-01-13 Thread J. Landman Gay
Buttons and groups do not have their own text displays, so their labels can inherent the text properties of the object. Adding a label to a field will require a whole set of new properties to distinguish its formatting from that of the field text. We'd also want relative placement properties (to

Re: Fields Have Labels

2015-01-13 Thread Jim Lambert
I wrote: > > it’s more better “more better” !!! What was I thinking? Not much apparently! Jim Lambert ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription prefere

Re: Fields Have Labels

2015-01-13 Thread Peter Haworth
On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 7:41 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > You could add it to the request queue, but given their need to finish the > rest of the items on the Road Map it would be months before you'd have it. > > Or you could have it today in just a couple hours as a custom control. > Wouldn't ex

Re: Fields Have Labels

2015-01-13 Thread Richard Gaskin
Peter Haworth wrote: > All that would be great but I'd be happy if the label of a field > could be displayed just as the label of a group can be displayed, > coupled with making the new iconGravity property (or perhaps a > more descriptive synonym for it like labelPosition) apply to a > field but

Re: Fields Have Labels

2015-01-13 Thread Earthednet-wp
Hugh, Just a "heads up" re your lcstackbrowser app. I found that it interferes with some of my code. Also, I got a message that it was trying to open one of your handlers and couldn't because code was protected. I do a lot of creating of fields, lines, and graphic elements. I'm trying to finish

Re: Fields Have Labels

2015-01-13 Thread Peter M. Brigham
On Jan 13, 2015, at 2:00 AM, Peter Haworth wrote: > Creation time is certainly one of the points where separate controls for a > field and it's label is somewhat inconvenient. As you mentioned, there are > tools out there that help alleviate the problem including Richard's. > > I think I probabl

Re: Fields Have Labels

2015-01-13 Thread FlexibleLearning.com
TitleWidth (LabelWidth) already exists for buttons... would including the property for field objects be useful? Hugh Senior FLCo ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your

Re: Fields Have Labels

2015-01-12 Thread Peter Haworth
Creation time is certainly one of the points where separate controls for a field and it's label is somewhat inconvenient. As you mentioned, there are tools out there that help alleviate the problem including Richard's. I think I probably complicated the issue by saying we needed a new property so

Re: Fields Have Labels

2015-01-12 Thread Jim Lambert
Following the logic that it’s more better to have separate fields for labels would dictate that the existing built-in labels for buttons and groups should be deprecated! What’s good for the goose is good for the gander. ;) JimL ___ use-livecode ma

Re: Fields Have Labels

2015-01-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 1/12/2015 12:32 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: I believe the attraction to auto-created labels is the time savings at the moment of creation. To me this seems more of an opportunity for a creation tool than the need to modify the innards of the engine to invent a new class of sub-objects. I have

Re: Fields Have Labels

2015-01-12 Thread stephen barncard
shoulda thought of v8 *--* *Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words* On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Phil Davis wrote: > I like the sound... "v8". Can you 'rev' it up? Maybe add some speed > equipment? > > :-) > Phil > > > > On 1/12/15 10:32 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> R

Re: Fields Have Labels

2015-01-12 Thread Peter Haworth
On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > So we could invent a new syntax for this sub-object, so that we could have > sufficient control over it - but once we have that, would this: > >set the textStyle of the label of fld "Name" to "Bold" > > ...be any simpler than: > >s

Re: Fields Have Labels

2015-01-12 Thread Phil Davis
I like the sound... "v8". Can you 'rev' it up? Maybe add some speed equipment? :-) Phil On 1/12/15 10:32 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Rather than a request for the RQCC, why not just build it as a v8 widget? -- Phil Davis ___ use-livecode mailing

Re: Fields Have Labels

2015-01-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
It may be helpful to have a label property for fields, but should the label have a fixed location or be settable? Should it always use the font face and style of the field, or be independently settable? What of its opaque, borderwidth, and other properties? So we could invent a new syntax fo

Re: Fields Have Labels

2015-01-12 Thread Peter Haworth
Sounds like time to add an enhancement request to the QCC. Pete lcSQL Software Home of lcStackBrowser and SQLiteAdmin On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Jim Lambert wrote: > Craig wrote: > >

Re: Fields Have Labels

2015-01-12 Thread Jim Lambert
Craig wrote: > Ah. > I see what you might mean. In a group the label appears as a, er, label in > the upper left corner. Exactly. You’ve got it! The label should be just that - a text area that is part of the control and optionally visible to identify the control to the end user. In LC only gr

Re: Fields Have Labels

2015-01-11 Thread dunbarx
Subject: Re: Fields Have Labels There isn't right now but this is an enhancement idea. I don't think it could use the label property because of its use elsewhere but the idea is similar to how the label of a group is used when showname is true. On Jan 11, 2015 7:24 PM, wrote: > Jim. >

Re: Fields Have Labels

2015-01-11 Thread Eric Corbett
information? >> >> >> Craig >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Jim Lambert >> To: use-livecode >> Sent: Sun, Jan 11, 2015 8:48 pm >> Subject: Re: Fields Have Labels >> >> >> >>> C

Re: Fields Have Labels

2015-01-11 Thread Peter Haworth
ay that enhances its existence, > since there is no way, no place, to display that extra information? > > > Craig > > > > -Original Message----- > From: Jim Lambert > To: use-livecode > Sent: Sun, Jan 11, 2015 8:48 pm > Subject: Re: Fields Have Labels >

Re: Fields Have Labels

2015-01-11 Thread dunbarx
hances its existence, since there is no way, no place, to display that extra information? Craig -Original Message- From: Jim Lambert To: use-livecode Sent: Sun, Jan 11, 2015 8:48 pm Subject: Re: Fields Have Labels > Craig wrote: > > If you could set the label property to act

Re: Fields Have Labels

2015-01-11 Thread Peter Haworth
That would ne nice. Sort of like the label/showname of a group but with more control over the appearance/position of the label. Would be nice to include the label of a group in this change, in fact any type of control. But doing that would require a new property I think since label has meaning f

Re: Fields Have Labels

2015-01-11 Thread Jim Lambert
> Craig wrote: > > If you could set the label property to actually change some aspect of a > field, what form would that take? Not the text, I assume. Hi Craig, I’m thinking the field’s label would have its own property set, such as font, style, fore/back colors, ‘iconGravity’ etc. These pro

Re: Fields Have Labels

2015-01-11 Thread Peter Haworth
This doesn't entirely solve the problem but lcstackBrowser's controls palette allows you to create multiple objects in one drag/drop operation. In this case, you would option-click the label control, option-click the field control, then drag either one of them to your card. You get a prompt for h

Re: Fields Have Labels

2015-01-11 Thread Paul Hibbert
I totally agree that the field "label" could be very useful, especially if it was paired with a "gravity" property similar to "iconGravity". Paul > On Jan 11, 2015, at 12:39 PM, stephen barncard > wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 11:43 AM, wrote: > >> It would be useful if LiveCode field

Re: Fields Have Labels

2015-01-11 Thread stephen barncard
On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 11:43 AM, wrote: > It would be useful if LiveCode fields did have a built-in label property Absolutely! How many times have developers made a series of fields for data entry and immediately have to make a corresponding series of labels, even for test stacks? Filemaker h

Re: Fields Have Labels

2015-01-11 Thread dunbarx
Jim. If you could set the label property to actually change some aspect of a field, what form would that take? Not the text, I assume. Craig -Original Message- From: Jim Lambert To: use-livecode Sent: Sun, Jan 11, 2015 1:44 pm Subject: Re: Fields Have Labels Interesting thread

Re: Fields Have Labels

2015-01-11 Thread Jim Lambert
Interesting thread. It would be useful if LiveCode fields did have a built-in label property, which one could hide/show and manipulate the styling of the label itself. If I recall correctly Oracle Media Objects fields had such property. Very handy it was. Jim Lambert _

Re: Fields Have Labels

2015-01-11 Thread Mike Bonner
stom property, it > is a built-in property. It is just not settable in the inspector, nor > viewable, as has been said, like, say, button labels are. > > > Craig Newman > > > > -Original Message- > From: Mike Bonner > To: How to use LiveCode > Sent: Sun,

Re: Fields Have Labels

2015-01-11 Thread Roger Guay
Yes, I thought it might be a Custom Property, but it is not. > On Jan 11, 2015, at 9:32 AM, Mike Bonner wrote: > > IF you set the label of the field, you're not setting a built in property, > you're creating a property named label. > > On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 8:58 AM, Roger Guay wrote: > >> Y

Re: Fields Have Labels

2015-01-11 Thread dunbarx
To: How to use LiveCode Sent: Sun, Jan 11, 2015 11:33 am Subject: Re: Fields Have Labels IF you set the label of the field, you're not setting a built in property, you're creating a property named label. On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 8:58 AM, Roger Guay wrote: > Ya but you can’t s

Re: Fields Have Labels

2015-01-11 Thread Mike Bonner
IF you set the label of the field, you're not setting a built in property, you're creating a property named label. On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 8:58 AM, Roger Guay wrote: > Ya but you can’t set the showName of a field to true, so what good is the > label? > > > > On Jan 11, 2015, at 8:49 AM, Bob Cole

Re: Fields Have Labels

2015-01-11 Thread Roger Guay
Ya but you can’t set the showName of a field to true, so what good is the label? > On Jan 11, 2015, at 8:49 AM, Bob Cole wrote: > > put the label of field 1 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscri

Fields Have Labels

2015-01-11 Thread Bob Cole
Try this in a new stack with one field. It works: set the label of field 1 to "Label Test" put the label of field 1 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscriptio