Re: Dollar Sign Variables

2014-02-18 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Smith wrote: Is there a tutorial on using the debugger, for those of us 'old school' who seem dependent on put statements? Section 3.5 of the User Guide (p 63-70) is well illustrated and should provide what you're looking for. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and con

Re: Dollar Sign Variables

2014-02-17 Thread Mark Smith
J. Landman Gay wrote > One thing I do all the time is to step through a new handler to see what > it is doing. When I can see the values of the variables, I know what to > expect. Usually I can tell when the next executable line will error and > to avoid having to dismiss an error dialog and sta

Re: Dollar Sign Variables

2014-02-17 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 3:51 AM, Björnke von Gierke wrote: > I graciously insert put commands when something isn't working as expected, > then fix the problem and remove the puts again. "graciously"? :) I have a ck command for tossing checkpoints. It both put's its argument and sticks it aft

Re: Dollar Sign Variables

2014-02-13 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/13/14, 5:51 AM, Björnke von Gierke wrote: I was wondering the same thing. How in the world does one program without the debugger? Jaw dropped. I graciously insert put commands when something isn't working as expected, then fix the problem and remove the puts again. That's what we had to

Re: Dollar Sign Variables

2014-02-13 Thread Björnke von Gierke
> > I was wondering the same thing. How in the world does one program without the > debugger? > > Jaw dropped. I graciously insert put commands when something isn't working as expected, then fix the problem and remove the puts again. Only works with code that I've created myself though, becau

Re: Dollar Sign Variables

2014-02-12 Thread Mark Wieder
Craig- Tuesday, February 11, 2014, 10:45:33 AM, you wrote: > I find the system globals to be a distraction. Sometimes there > are a dozen or more, depending on where I am in the session, and > they begin the variable list. Certainly better if they were at the > bottom, and this hack is possible,

Re: Dollar Sign Variables

2014-02-12 Thread Ray
ade no fair copies of his work, and Salieri, crushed, realized he simply wrote down "the music he heard in his head". Craig -Original Message- From: Richmond To: How to use LiveCode Sent: Tue, Feb 11, 2014 3:28 pm Subject: Re: Dollar Sign Variables On 11/02/14 22:

Re: Dollar Sign Variables

2014-02-11 Thread Peter Haworth
ade no fair copies of his work, and Salieri, crushed, realized he > simply wrote down "the music he heard in his head". > > > Craig > > > > -----Original Message- > From: Richmond > To: How to use LiveCode > Sent: Tue, Feb 11, 2014 3:28 pm > Subj

Re: Dollar Sign Variables

2014-02-11 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/11/14, 3:16 PM, Jim Lambert wrote: Jacque wrote: How in the world does one program without the debugger? Simple. Write flawless code on the first go. ;) Oh, I meant how do other people do it. ;) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software

Re: Dollar Sign Variables

2014-02-11 Thread Jim Lambert
Jacque wrote: > How in the world does one program > without the debugger? Simple. Write flawless code on the first go. ;) Jim Lambert ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and ma

Re: Dollar Sign Variables

2014-02-11 Thread Richmond
---Original Message- From: Richmond To: How to use LiveCode Sent: Tue, Feb 11, 2014 3:28 pm Subject: Re: Dollar Sign Variables On 11/02/14 22:24, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 2/11/14, 12:38 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: WHAT!!??!!! WHT The first time? How, how is that possible? I ha

Re: Dollar Sign Variables

2014-02-11 Thread Ray
I find the way Richmond works kind of fascinating but I work more or less like Jackie does so I feel the script editor is at heart of writing software in Livecode. With this in mind I've posted two bugs lately which will hopefully make it a little easier to get around. 1/31/14, Bug #1176, L

Re: Dollar Sign Variables

2014-02-11 Thread dunbarx
o use LiveCode Sent: Tue, Feb 11, 2014 3:28 pm Subject: Re: Dollar Sign Variables On 11/02/14 22:24, J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 2/11/14, 12:38 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: >> WHAT!!??!!! WHT >> >> >> The first time? How, how is that possible? I have never used >&

Re: Dollar Sign Variables

2014-02-11 Thread Ray
Thanks Pete - I didn't make the connection for some reason. On 2/11/2014 3:18 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: Those are the bug numbers related to this problem, in response to Jacque's question, one of them is yours of course. Pete lcSQL Software Home of lcStackBrowser

Re: Dollar Sign Variables

2014-02-11 Thread Richmond
On 11/02/14 22:24, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 2/11/14, 12:38 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: WHAT!!??!!! WHT The first time? How, how is that possible? I have never used "revXMLEndTree". But the debugger? I was wondering the same thing. How in the world does one program without the debugg

Re: Dollar Sign Variables

2014-02-11 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/11/14, 12:38 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: WHAT!!??!!! WHT The first time? How, how is that possible? I have never used "revXMLEndTree". But the debugger? I was wondering the same thing. How in the world does one program without the debugger? Jaw dropped. -- Jacqueline Landman

Re: Dollar Sign Variables

2014-02-11 Thread Peter Haworth
Those are the bug numbers related to this problem, in response to Jacque's question, one of them is yours of course. Pete lcSQL Software Home of lcStackBrowser and SQLiteAdmin On Tue, Feb 11

Re: Dollar Sign Variables

2014-02-11 Thread Richmond
On 11/02/14 21:47, Ray wrote: Wouldn't that be a 'yellowey' :-) NO: http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/yellowy Richmond. On 2/11/2014 2:03 PM, Richmond wrote: On 11/02/14 20:38, dunb...@aol.com wrote: Ray... This has been a topic, bugaboo and bug report (I think) for a

Re: Dollar Sign Variables

2014-02-11 Thread Ray
Wouldn't that be a 'yellowey' :-) On 2/11/2014 2:03 PM, Richmond wrote: On 11/02/14 20:38, dunb...@aol.com wrote: Ray... This has been a topic, bugaboo and bug report (I think) for a while, but no reason not to do it again. Richmond... WHAT!!??!!! WHT The first time? How, how

Re: Dollar Sign Variables

2014-02-11 Thread Richmond
On 11/02/14 20:38, dunb...@aol.com wrote: Ray... This has been a topic, bugaboo and bug report (I think) for a while, but no reason not to do it again. Richmond... WHAT!!??!!! WHT The first time? How, how is that possible? I have never used "revXMLEndTree". But the debugger? C

Re: Dollar Sign Variables

2014-02-11 Thread Ray
just to display my own portion of the list. Craig -Original Message- From: dunbarx To: use-livecode Sent: Tue, Feb 11, 2014 1:39 pm Subject: Re: Dollar Sign Variables Ray... This has been a topic, bugaboo and bug report (I think) for a while, but no reason not to do it again. Ric

Re: Dollar Sign Variables

2014-02-11 Thread Ray
Richmond, Just out of curiosity, how do you debug scripts without using the variable watcher part of the script editor window? Thanks, Ray On 2/11/2014 1:28 PM, Richmond wrote: On 11/02/14 19:31, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 2/11/14, 7:19 AM, Richmond wrote: That is really wierd as after abou

Re: Dollar Sign Variables

2014-02-11 Thread Ray
Not sure what to make of this reply. On 2/11/2014 1:28 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: 10041 and 11786 Pete lcSQL Software Home of lcStackBrowser and SQLiteAdmin On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 9:33 AM,

Re: Dollar Sign Variables

2014-02-11 Thread dunbarx
al Message- From: Richmond To: How to use LiveCode Sent: Tue, Feb 11, 2014 1:29 pm Subject: Re: Dollar Sign Variables On 11/02/14 19:31, J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 2/11/14, 7:19 AM, Richmond wrote: >> That is really wierd as after about 12 years of using Livecode I have >> NEV

Re: Dollar Sign Variables

2014-02-11 Thread dunbarx
- From: Richmond To: How to use LiveCode Sent: Tue, Feb 11, 2014 1:29 pm Subject: Re: Dollar Sign Variables On 11/02/14 19:31, J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 2/11/14, 7:19 AM, Richmond wrote: >> That is really wierd as after about 12 years of using Livecode I have >> NEVER seenanyth

Re: Dollar Sign Variables

2014-02-11 Thread Richmond
On 11/02/14 19:31, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 2/11/14, 7:19 AM, Richmond wrote: That is really wierd as after about 12 years of using Livecode I have NEVER seenanything like that in a script editor. They are in the variable watcher at the bottom of the script editor. They've been there ever sin

Re: Dollar Sign Variables

2014-02-11 Thread Peter Haworth
10041 and 11786 Pete lcSQL Software Home of lcStackBrowser and SQLiteAdmin On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 9:33 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > Is there a feature request in the QCC asking for a prefer

Re: Dollar Sign Variables

2014-02-11 Thread Ray
Since this is already a preference in the Script Editor pane so I took reported it as a bug since checking/unchecking it has no effect. It's bug #11786 "Show Globals Preference Doesn't Work" Funny thing though, somehow in my testing I've succeeded in hiding them, although the check box still

Re: Dollar Sign Variables

2014-02-11 Thread Roger Eller
Or list them at the bottom. I wouldn't want them gone. Out of sight, out of mind, and you forget they are there when you need them. ~Roger On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:33 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > Is there a feature request in the QCC asking for a preference that would > turn off the $ global

Re: Dollar Sign Variables

2014-02-11 Thread J. Landman Gay
Is there a feature request in the QCC asking for a preference that would turn off the $ globals? They don't bother me much, but it would be nice to be able to choose. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.c

Re: Dollar Sign Variables

2014-02-11 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/11/14, 7:19 AM, Richmond wrote: That is really wierd as after about 12 years of using Livecode I have NEVER seenanything like that in a script editor. They are in the variable watcher at the bottom of the script editor. They've been there ever since the beginning of LiveCode time. -- Ja

Re: Dollar Sign Variables

2014-02-11 Thread Ray
ercial and Community. I do have to save the debugger script, and then quit LC for the changes to stick, but never see the errors you do. Craig -Original Message- From: Ray To: use-livecode Sent: Tue, Feb 11, 2014 11:40 am Subject: Re: Dollar Sign Variables Theiry, Craig, This method wo

Re: Dollar Sign Variables

2014-02-11 Thread dunbarx
Sent: Tue, Feb 11, 2014 11:40 am Subject: Re: Dollar Sign Variables Theiry, Craig, This method works: http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-livecode/2012-February/169029.html but it can't be saved, forcing me to do a lot of work-around each time I open Livecode. It seems I have a permi

Re: Dollar Sign Variables

2014-02-11 Thread Ray
*" replace return with comma in tGlobalsRaw return tGlobalsRaw end revDebuggerValidGlobalNames Peace at last. Craig Newman -Original Message- From: Ray To: use-livecode Sent: Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:10 am Subject: Dollar Sign Variables Does anybody know of a way to stop the

Re: Dollar Sign Variables

2014-02-11 Thread dunbarx
riginal Message- From: Ray To: use-livecode Sent: Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:10 am Subject: Dollar Sign Variables Does anybody know of a way to stop the script editor from displaying all the dollar sign variables? I'll list a few, below, for reference. Sometimes they don't show up f

Re: Dollar Sign Variables

2014-02-11 Thread Ray
No, it sure doesn't Mark but thanks for trying. As a matter of fact, when I just opened the Script Editor pane of the Preferences window I found the Show Globals button unchecked. Just to experiment I checked it, opened a script in debug mode, and actually found more dollar sign vari

Re: Dollar Sign Variables

2014-02-11 Thread Mark Schonewille
014 14:10, Ray wrote: Does anybody know of a way to stop the script editor from displaying all the dollar sign variables? I'll list a few, below, for reference. Sometimes they don't show up for some reason but most of the time they not only show up but they're listed at the top, cau

Re: Dollar Sign Variables

2014-02-11 Thread Ray
repeat that one either. On 2/11/2014 8:19 AM, Richmond wrote: On 11/02/14 15:10, Ray wrote: Does anybody know of a way to stop the script editor from displaying all the dollar sign variables? I'll list a few, below, for reference. Sometimes they don't show up for some reason but most o

Re: Dollar Sign Variables

2014-02-11 Thread Richmond
On 11/02/14 15:10, Ray wrote: Does anybody know of a way to stop the script editor from displaying all the dollar sign variables? I'll list a few, below, for reference. Sometimes they don't show up for some reason but most of the time they not only show up but they're li

Re: Dollar Sign Variables

2014-02-11 Thread Ray
rry, don't have the link but... Regards, Thierry Thierry Douez - http://sunny-tdz.com Maker of sunnYperl - sunnYmidi - sunnYmage - sunnYpdf 2014-02-11 Ray : Does anybody know of a way to stop the script editor from displaying all the dollar s

Re: Dollar Sign Variables

2014-02-11 Thread Thierry Douez
gt; Does anybody know of a way to stop the script editor from displaying all the > dollar sign variables? I'll list a few, below, for reference. Sometimes > they don't show up for some reason but most of the time they not only show > up but they're listed at the top, causing a

Dollar Sign Variables

2014-02-11 Thread Ray
Does anybody know of a way to stop the script editor from displaying all the dollar sign variables? I'll list a few, below, for reference. Sometimes they don't show up for some reason but most of the time they not only show up but they're listed at the top, causing a lot