Re: Describing LiveCode

2015-08-14 Thread Mick Collins
Thanks for replying, Bill, I expect there are more than a few caveats to consider. As I implied, in the Moore method an average of maybe 1% of class time is spent by the professor speaking, 0% in lecture mode. I think it would be more in a programming class, but still not enough to nod one out.

Re: Describing LiveCode

2015-08-13 Thread EED-wp Email
This is a great way to learn programming, but there are a few caveats that might be considered. As I learned to program, i could never get thru more than one lecture (pascal). Ungodly boring! I needed a project and the docs. However, other folks may have different learning styles. Some may be

Re: Describing LiveCode

2015-08-13 Thread Mick Collins
Just my 2 cents worth: When I was studying math as an undergraduate and as a graduate student, many of the classes were taught by the (R. L.) Moore Method. In this method the professor gives axioms, definitions and just the statements of the theorems. The students have to prove the theorems the

Re: Describing LiveCode

2015-08-12 Thread stgoldb...@aol.com
Just a reminder. I have written a "getting started" book that explains the essence of LiveCode in my book LiveCode Lite: Computer Programming Made Ridiculously Simple. It may be found as a free PDF download at http://medmaster.net/livecode.html. I have not put the book into print yet because o

Re: Describing LiveCode

2015-08-12 Thread Richmond
I have just had an e-mail from the Mothership that says this: "I want to improve your business, your cash flow, and your development work. "To do this, we launched a new Business Application Framework. This framework brings object-oriented programming to LiveCode, is compatible with GIT and oth

Re: Describing LiveCode

2015-08-11 Thread Richmond
On 12/08/15 05:55, Kay C Lan wrote: Richmond, My advise is similar to Peter, William and Jacque's, but more blunt! First ask how many of these parents know how to set up a Facebook page, send a Tweet, interact with Instagram, send a message on SnapChat, change the ringtone on their phone on a p

Re: Describing LiveCode

2015-08-11 Thread Mark Wieder
On 08/11/2015 12:21 PM, Richmond wrote: On 11/08/15 21:46, Peter M. Brigham wrote: May be conducting a parents' night in which you demonstrate something simple with livecode to show its ease of access and manageable learning curve, then rope the kids in to show off what they have done, and final

Re: Describing LiveCode

2015-08-11 Thread Kay C Lan
Richmond, My advise is similar to Peter, William and Jacque's, but more blunt! First ask how many of these parents know how to set up a Facebook page, send a Tweet, interact with Instagram, send a message on SnapChat, change the ringtone on their phone on a per individual basis and even block cer

Re: Describing LiveCode

2015-08-11 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Richmond, I wrote this some time ago: http://www3.economy-x-talk.com/blog/2014/02/24/what-is-livecode/ Also, LiveCode really is a 4GL. Every 4GL has a specialisation. Some are for managing databases, others for instructing cutting machines, and again others for giving easy access to the API

Re: Describing LiveCode

2015-08-11 Thread JB
On Aug 11, 2015, at 12:20 PM, Richmond wrote: > I'm not that interested, as, at the moment, at least, LiveCode does almost > all that I require (let's leave communicating > back-and-forth between USB devices out of this discussion). > > What I am interested in is how to communicate adequately

Re: Describing LiveCode

2015-08-11 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 8/11/2015 2:21 PM, Richmond wrote: On 11/08/15 21:46, Peter M. Brigham wrote: May be conducting a parents' night in which you demonstrate something simple with livecode to show its ease of access and manageable learning curve, then rope the kids in to show off what they have done, and finally

Re: Describing LiveCode

2015-08-11 Thread Richmond
On 11/08/15 21:46, Peter M. Brigham wrote: May be conducting a parents' night in which you demonstrate something simple with livecode to show its ease of access and manageable learning curve, then rope the kids in to show off what they have done, and finally summarize the advanced projects tha

Re: Describing LiveCode

2015-08-11 Thread Richmond
On 11/08/15 21:18, JB wrote: Hi Richmond, You covered a lot of information in your post. I know this message does not answer your question but when they mention C++ and object-oriented programming they are not talking about objects like fields & buttons. I am aware that object-oriented progra

Re: Describing LiveCode

2015-08-11 Thread William Prothero
Richmond: I have had pretty much the same history as you, but started with punch cards on a mainframe less powerful than my thermostat. But, perhaps if you break it down like the kinds of knowledge that a programmer needs: 1. the flow and logic of a program (which applies to all platforms) 2. o

Re: Describing LiveCode

2015-08-11 Thread Peter M. Brigham
May be conducting a parents' night in which you demonstrate something simple with livecode to show its ease of access and manageable learning curve, then rope the kids in to show off what they have done, and finally summarize the advanced projects that people have used it for. In my experience,

Re: Describing LiveCode

2015-08-11 Thread jbv
Hi Richmond You might be facing the same problem that I (as well as probably most of this list members) have been facing for years (if not decades) with students, teachers, colleagues and clients : a programming language HAS TO BE TOUGH to learn and use, otherwise it's considered as nothing but a

Re: Describing LiveCode

2015-08-11 Thread JB
Hi Richmond, You covered a lot of information in your post. I know this message does not answer your question but when they mention C++ and object-oriented programming they are not talking about objects like fields & buttons. If you are interested in object-oriented programming you might want to

Describing LiveCode

2015-08-11 Thread Richmond
I am having a problem with a load of belligerent parents who seem quite unable to understand what LiveCode is. These parents work at the local Non-Ferrous Metals factory and are highly skilled engineers, but learnt their programming when I did (i.e. when the dinosaurs were alive), and need to b