nt: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 9:36 AM
> To: How to use LiveCode
> Cc: Mike Kerner
> Subject: Re: Xcode and Catalina **NEW MBP**
>
> just to follow up on this some more, I have tried launching XC 12.5.1
> manually. You can do it, but something happened with the command-line
>
:36 AM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: Mike Kerner
Subject: Re: Xcode and Catalina **NEW MBP**
just to follow up on this some more, I have tried launching XC 12.5.1
manually. You can do it, but something happened with the command-line tools,
which causes builds from within LC to bork with an error.
On
tion Services
> > rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On
> Behalf
> > Of Mike Kerner via use-livecode
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link, please. It isn't working for me.
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> Of Mike Kerner via use-livecode
> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 7:01 PM
> To: How to use LiveCode
> Cc: Mike Kerner
> Subject: Re: Xcode and Catalina **NEW MBP**
>
> Ralph,
> I said "Catalina" when I meant "Monterey".
>
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Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 7:01 PM
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Cc: Mike Kerner
Subject: Re: Xcode and Catalina **NEW MBP**
Ralph,
I said "Catalina" when I meant "Monterey".
It's a new M
Ralph,
I said "Catalina" when I meant "Monterey".
It's a new MBP, and no versions of XC before 13.1 will run on it.
I used a restore from Time Machine to get the machine set up, so all of the
old XCodes that I had moved over, but none of the command-line tools seem
to work
terey until LC can
> deal with xCode 13.
>
> ~j
>
> Sent from Jim's iPhone XR
> Please excuse brevity, typos and errors
>
> > On Nov 16, 2021, at 9:23 AM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > Has a
rner via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> Has anyone gotten LC/XC to work on a new mac that came with catalina
> pre-installed?
> I'm kind-of in a catch-22 with LC not working with XC 13.1 and XC 12.5.1
> and below not even running in Catalina, so I can't complete the instal
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Subject: xcode and catalina **NEW MBP**
Has anyone gotten LC/XC to work on a new mac that c
Has anyone gotten LC/XC to work on a new mac that came with catalina
pre-installed?
I'm kind-of in a catch-22 with LC not working with XC 13.1 and XC 12.5.1
and below not even running in Catalina, so I can't complete the installs.
--
On the first day, God created the heavens and the Ea
to distribute your app will be what
LC does. i.e. sign the .app, create a dmg and sign, notarize and staple the
dmg. No installers are needed.
Kind regards,
Panos
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On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 22:34, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> List Folks: A
List Folks: A head up of a Catalina issue:
If your code signed Standalone is trying to access stacks that are
OUTSIDE the app bundle under Catalina, sometimes Catalina will not
properly detect your apps need for access. You will not get an "App
wants access to blah blah: Allow or
> http://newosxbook.com/ent.jl
>
> Now, if only I could figure out from the database which ones I need to add.
Wow, that is an AWESOME tool! I hate that Apple won't pull a single engineer
off a project to write some documentation. A similar solution I use is to
make-up for Apple’s confusing de
Arghh!
So I am Googling and Googling and hunting around the Apple Developer
site to try to find a comprehensive list of macOS entitlements so I can
code sign my app with the the entitlements my app needs to not generate
errors under Catalina.
I want to execute: codesign --verbose --deep
udio-input
com.apple.security.device.camera
I need to figure out the ones for email access, finder integration
(drag/drop), internet access, and disk access.
We've seen Catalina ask the user for:
1. HyperRESEARCH requests access to the Internet (if Apple Firewall is
turned o
egards,
Mark Talluto
livecloud.io <http://livecloud.io/>
nursenotes.net <http://nursenotes.net/>
canelasoftware.com <http://www.canelasoftware.com/>
> On Jun 15, 2020, at 4:55 AM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> We're having some macOS Catalina per
regards,
Panos
--
On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 at 14:56, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> We're having some macOS Catalina permissions/entitlements issues
>
> We have applications that we deliver for Catalina where the application
> (LiveCode sta
We're having some macOS Catalina permissions/entitlements issues
We have applications that we deliver for Catalina where the application
(LiveCode standalone) is code-signed. It is then packaged in an
installers (LiveCode standalone) and the installer is code signed. That
is then placed
em. Researchware makes two
applications, HyperRESEARCH and HyperTRANSCRIBE. We have new
forthcoming versions of both built on LiveCode 9.5.1.
These two applications are code signed and the DMG is code signed,
notarized, and stapled for Catalina. They both work fine on testing on
macOS rangin
On 6/8/20 7:55 AM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote:
Our hope is that this is a problem SPECIFIC to our single Catalina mac
and not a LC Engine or tsNet Catalina specific bug of some sort. To know
that some one else has run multiple LC 9 standalones at the same time on
Catalina and seen no
Torsten,
Thank you. That is encouraging. I may take you up on your offer later to
run a test on your Catalina Mac.
-- Paul
On 6/8/2020 11:10 AM, Torsten Holmer via use-livecode wrote:
Hi Paul,
I have started three LiveCode standalones on Catalina with no problems. But
they are just
Hi Paul,
I have started three LiveCode standalones on Catalina with no problems. But
they are just standalones created frome the IDE with no signing etc.
If you like, I can test your apps on my MacBook with Catalina in order to check
if the problems are replicable.
CU,
Torsten
>
We have run into a possible problem. Researchware makes two
applications, HyperRESEARCH and HyperTRANSCRIBE. We have new forthcoming
versions of both built on LiveCode 9.5.1.
These two applications are code signed and the DMG is code signed,
notarized, and stapled for Catalina. They both work
Graham: before updating to Catalina definitely make a back of everything. When
I updated I lost 35000 emails. Not just that they weren't loaded by Mail, they
were actually deleted from the computer. That said, that was some months ago,
and Catalina has since solved that problem - reported
c/
>
> replaces the ColorSync Profile to sRGB IEC61966-2.1
>
>
>
>
> -
> Matthias Rebbe
> Life Is Too Short For Boring Code
>
>> Am 25.03.2020 um 20:38 schrieb Martin Koob via use-livecode
>> :
>>
>> Hi.
>>
>> I saw a discussion
-
Matthias Rebbe
Life Is Too Short For Boring Code
> Am 25.03.2020 um 20:38 schrieb Martin Koob via use-livecode
> :
>
> Hi.
>
> I saw a discussion earlier on this list or the forums about an issue I was
> having with Catalina.
>
> Icons that appeared fine on earli
Hi.
I saw a discussion earlier on this list or the forums about an issue I was
having with Catalina.
Icons that appeared fine on earlier versions of Mac OS X now appeared black on
Catalina.
The solution posted was a simple terminal command that would strip the
“something” from the image
> ... it is always a good idea when developing for public consumption to
> develop for the (reasonably) lowest common denominator.
This works with the public. Not so much with a massive set of corporate
enterprises where IT departments (all of them) will choose to test and roll out
upgrades/up
Just to diverge a bit (as I am wont to do), when new browsers and features
began to be prolific, a lot of web devs would initially develop sites using the
new features. What resulted however is that they excluded vast numbers of
visitors who could not view their web sites, or had reduced capabil
ation, as this has been a source of confusion for a long
> time.
>
> The current LC 9.x versions do support MacOS Catalina. Also, with the
> latest LiveCode versions (9.5.1 and 9.6 DP-2 - and possibly earlier
> versions too) you can still deploy apps for iOS 13.x - and these apps will
Hello all,
Just a clarification, as this has been a source of confusion for a long
time.
The current LC 9.x versions do support MacOS Catalina. Also, with the
latest LiveCode versions (9.5.1 and 9.6 DP-2 - and possibly earlier
versions too) you can still deploy apps for iOS 13.x - and these apps
Sean Cole wrote:
> I've added updates to this bug relating to the script editor issues
> and crashes
>
> https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22389
Thank you, Sean. I'm signed onto the report, and will add any notes I
can if I see this on my Mac.
--
Richard Gaskin
Fourth World Syst
On 3/12/20 9:12 PM, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode wrote:
I was able to reproduce the issue (continually) so I did another screen
recording. It's either the auto-type suggestion thing or it's the error
bullet it puts on the numbers (which would then tie up with the breakpoint
and other SE errors
I was able to reproduce the issue (continually) so I did another screen
recording. It's either the auto-type suggestion thing or it's the error
bullet it puts on the numbers (which would then tie up with the breakpoint
and other SE errors). Interesting!
Sean
On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 at 03:47, Sean Col
I've added updates to this bug relating to the script editor issues and
crashes
https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22389
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they really had to scramble, but they knew how important it was.
Apparently Apple doesn't give much advance notice to third-party IDE
developers. If you're working in Xcode these changes are less intrusive.
I haven't yet installed Catalina, but I submitted an app to the App S
The clue is in the subject heading, Jacque. At least, I thought it was plain
enough. The script editor and HTML issues I mentioned were just ‘mind wind’ in
the process of bemoaning the speed of uptake to current OS and Xcode support.
Here’s the big issue. Essential updates that all users are dep
This one was okay. :) You sound a little more relaxed.
I frequently have the same frustrations as you do, but knowing a little
about the team helps moderate my posts. I think this long thread could have
been shorter if you had just said what roadblocks in particular are
preventing you from com
Pi Digital wrote:
> I had posted this originally to the dev-livecode list but I thought
> (accurately) I wouldn’t get a reponse from that.
Yep, the dev list has been more or less retired since LC went open
source. I'm not sure why it's still even up, except that a few people
wanted it when the
No offence taken at all, Matthias. I felt you hit ‘the nail’ on the head, not
me. ;)
I do regret bringing up my last ‘incident’ at all. It’s a bit of a splinter
that just won’t go away for me and hard not to be reminded of far to often when
I face the near same issues of failure I did back then
Hi all
Thank you for all your kind words. Sorry, you said ‘no’ sarcasm. Oops. My bad.
I had posted this originally to the dev-livecode list but I thought
(accurately) I wouldn’t get a reponse from that. I’m sooo sorry (oops, I did it
again) that this is viewed potentially by newbies. Although
Not just dropped APIs.
It starts already with Apple deciding if the functionality of an iOS App is
worth to be approved for the Appstore or not.
I had created 3 apps for a customer which were not accepted by Apple by the
"lack" of functionality. At least that was the reason they told us, altho
> Am 13.03.2020 um 00:09 schrieb hh via use-livecode
> :
>
>> Matthias wrote:
>> I did NOT refer to any personal problems. So please do not impute
>> such an intention to me.
>
> Sorry Matthias, I obviously misinterpreted "your problems last year".
> Hopefully Sean Cole didn't also misinterpr
I hesitate to opine, but there's so much here. I think anytime a product is
dependent on a Google API, long term support is uncertain. For example,
recently Google dropped support for Google Docs. The copier companies have
written plugins to their copiers SPECIFICALLY to work with Google Docs. S
> Matthias wrote:
> I did NOT refer to any personal problems. So please do not impute
> such an intention to me.
Sorry Matthias, I obviously misinterpreted "your problems last year".
Hopefully Sean Cole didn't also misinterpret this.
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> Am 12.03.2020 um 23:15 schrieb hh via use-livecode
> :
>
>
> What I woud like to see is that Sean Cole(pi digital) can write here his
> opinion without being attacked just for writing that: No content-based
> attack, but using the most nasty kind of attack, using (supposed) personal
> proble
> Richard G. wrote at Mike K.:
> The rest of us are having conversations with none other than the lead
> engineer, right here on this list this morning.
Yes the CTO was in the last two weeks probably more often here than in the
last two years before that two weeks. But he's now more often searchi
it really has been, by multiple people, over multiple years. i'm not going
to repeat myself, or them.
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Mike Kerner wrote:
> there is a difference between complaining and flameing
> badgering over the status of qr's shouldn't be necessary. badgering
> over comms shouldn't be necessary.
Agreed, but there have been two posts with abstractions about
"communications" and neither has expressed what e
i'm kind-of annoyed. i have spent enough of my company's funds and my
personal time doing lc sessions for beginners. the two years before the lc
global sessions, we had a similar level of communication from hq as we do
now.
there is a difference between complaining and flameing
badgering over the
Well said, Jacqueline!
Bill
William A. Prothero
Santa Barbara, CA. 93105
http://earthlearningsolutions.org/
> On Mar 12, 2020, at 11:58 AM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> On 3/12/20 12:39 PM, hh via use-livecode wrote:
>> The uselist is not a LC-praising list. As long as we have
On 3/12/20 12:39 PM, hh via use-livecode wrote:
The uselist is not a LC-praising list. As long as we have the freedom of speech
everybody can say whether he is contented with LC or not. And nothing written
does
change anything*with LC*, also not your positive-only (and excellent) posts ...
Ton
As to my contentedness with LC, let me say that without LC, my options would be
Javascript, Python or a host of other script based languages, or else some
variant of C. That is to say I would be out of options because I simply am too
lazy and otherwise occupied with my real job to justify the ti
LC = Less Cheese ;-)
Rick
> On Mar 12, 2020, at 2:16 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> It went on for so many days Heather eventually stepped in and kindly asked us
> to please stop the cheese conversation so those interested in LiveCode could
> have more LC and less cheese f
hh wrote:
>> Bob S. wrote:
>> I was not aware we had such freedoms on this list! For instance, if I
>> begin to speak of fermented dairy products, I will certainly be
>> censured!
>> And well I should be!!!
>
> I wonder why you want to speak of fermented dairy products in order to
> express whethe
Bob Sneidar wrote:
> I was not aware we had such freedoms on this list! For instance, if I
> begin to speak of fermented dairy products, I will certainly be
> censured! And well I should be!!!
>
> Also, and seriously, Freedom of Speech is something that is unique to
> a handful of cultures. It is
> > hh wrote:
> > The uselist is not a LC-praising list. As long as we have the freedom of
> > speech everybody can say whether he is contented with LC or not.
>
> Bob S. wrote:
> I was not aware we had such freedoms on this list! For instance, if I begin
> to speak of fermented dairy products, I
I was not aware we had such freedoms on this list! For instance, if I begin to
speak of fermented dairy products, I will certainly be censured! And well I
should be!!!
Also, and seriously, Freedom of Speech is something that is unique to a handful
of cultures. It is by no means global.
Bob S
+10
> On Mar 12, 2020, at 09:41 , matthias rebbe via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> Posting here about a real problem/bug makes sense, because others might jump
> in and confirm the same experience or might help to solve the problem
> As always, a good recipe, if possible, makes it even easier to r
> > hh wrote:
> > Some people are very angry about deficiencies of LC, what I can understand
> > from
> > their view, and *we should hear what they have to say*.
>
> Matthias wrote:
> Why. Posting here won´t change anything.
The uselist is not a LC-praising list. As long as we have the freedom
> Am 12.03.2020 um 17:08 schrieb hh via use-livecode
> :
>
> Some people are very angry about deficiencies of LC, what I can understand
> from
> their view, and *we should hear what they have to say*.
>
Why. Posting here won´t change anything.
> Especially when they get angry about the white
Some people are very angry about deficiencies of LC, what I can understand from
their view, and *we should hear what they have to say*.
Especially when they get angry about the whitewashing of bugs by some list
members.
What's wrong that's wrong, no matter who tries to whitewash bugs or even tri
> Am 12.03.2020 um 01:08 schrieb Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
> :
>
> Tired and ill. My business is constantly lagging behind my competitors
> because we're always on the backfoot waiting for LC to frikin' work! I'm
> going to end up losing all my new customers again since the last LC epic
>
With the release of early GM versions of these from Apple 6mths ago and dev
releases since 9 mths ago, Why do I STILL have them uninstalled on my
machines because I have been waiting for LC to catch up?? This is making my
nethers ache now.
Panos merged it WAY BACK in Jan 14th. ??? C'mon!
Tire
After installing Catalina macOS I (along with lots of other people) lost a
whole swag of mail; the problem seems to occur after moving a message between
mailboxes, possibly before Mail had finished updating itself, but may have
other triggers. Many messages simply went totally missing, and lots
ot; and "Don't
Allow" buttons. Two of these make perfect sense.
1) Is access to the Internet, which appears to appear if and only if the
Firewall is truned on (default in Mojave is off and in Catalina is on).
Our app access a server file to see if there is a new version of its
First I want to give my appreciation for the hard work at HQ keeping up with
Apple.
In fact Mark W. maybe ahead of the game!
As mentioned, I had to upgrade (against my better wishes) to Catalina, because
Adobe was giving us trouble on Mojave.
Surprising Livecode is working! and every
No, I haven't tried QUEMU.
However, I downloaded a new xCode and, when I ran it the first time, my little
board started working and showed up as a virtual serial port and as a disk
drive.
The good news is that it works. Perhaps xCode swapped out something, maybe
drivers.
The bad news is that
@Dar.
Did you already try to use QUEMU?
https://www.qemu.org
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not a solution.)
I like working with USB gadgets on the Mac, but if "Works with Catalina" has to
become a de facto standard for USB, then Apple is going to lose a market. A
virtual Windows machine is of no help here.
Oh, and I said AdaFruit has a fix for Feather boards. It doesn't
LiveCode
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I need to look into this again. I made one Hackintosh
Tonymacx86.com
Bob Sneidar via use-livecode schreef op 15
oktober 2019 16:45:27 CEST:
>I need to look into this again. I made one Hackintosh with an eye to
>play video games but could never get the graphics card to work. That
>was a long time ago. If you have any links for making this happen I
>
I need to look into this again. I made one Hackintosh with an eye to play video
games but could never get the graphics card to work. That was a long time ago.
If you have any links for making this happen I would be very interested.
Thanks.
Bob S
> On Oct 14, 2019, at 13:10 , Erik Beugelaar v
/bt cards, sound cards etc.)
which were not supported by Apple anymore.
>
> On 14/10/2019, 21:58, "use-livecode on behalf of Dar Scott Consulting
via use-livecode" wrote:
>
> Catalina does not recognize the bootloader for atmega32u4 Arduino
board
ecode" wrote:
Catalina does not recognize the bootloader for atmega32u4 Arduino boards
such as Leonardo. The IDE 1.8.10 avr toolchain works (64-bit); this is not
related to 32-bit.
Catalina does not recognize the AdaFruit Feather ...BOOT drives. Actually this started with mac
.) which
were not supported by Apple anymore.
On 14/10/2019, 21:58, "use-livecode on behalf of Dar Scott Consulting via
use-livecode" wrote:
Catalina does not recognize the bootloader for atmega32u4 Arduino boards
such as Leonardo. The IDE 1.8.10 avr toolchain works (64-bit); t
Catalina does not recognize the bootloader for atmega32u4 Arduino boards such
as Leonardo. The IDE 1.8.10 avr toolchain works (64-bit); this is not related
to 32-bit.
Catalina does not recognize the AdaFruit Feather ...BOOT drives. Actually this
started with macOS 10.14.4. According to Dan
a 32-bit macOS app and turn it into a 64-bit app
suitable for delivering to customers in the interim. But I gave solutions only
for a sophisticated user to run 32-bit applications from Catalina (or so)
desktop.
My immediate thoughts: Bundles might make a conversion for the macOS easier.
Depe
2-bit macOS app and turn it into a 64-bit app
suitable for delivering to customers in the interim. But I gave solutions only
for a sophisticated user to run 32-bit applications from Catalina (or so)
desktop.
My immediate thoughts: Bundles might make a conversion for the macOS easier.
Dependent 3
nd turn it into a 64-bit app
>> suitable for delivering to customers in the interim. But I gave solutions
>> only for a sophisticated user to run 32-bit applications from Catalina (or
>> so) desktop.
>>
>> My immediate thoughts: Bundles might make a conversion for th
for delivering to customers in the interim. But I gave solutions only
for a sophisticated user to run 32-bit applications from Catalina (or so)
desktop.
My immediate thoughts: Bundles might make a conversion for the macOS easier.
Dependent 32-bit dynamic libraries would have to be moved into a
Being a mad scientist causes my mind to wander. I implied some sort of
application that would take a 32-bit macOS app and turn it into a 64-bit app
suitable for delivering to customers in the interim. But I gave solutions only
for a sophisticated user to run 32-bit applications from Catalina
a virtual machine that can run your
> app, you can set things up so that you can double-click on your desktop and
> run a 32-bit app.
>
> Real
>
> Another method is to set up little "servers" you can remote into. For
> example, instead of upgrading to Catalina on
ot;servers" you can remote into. For example,
instead of upgrading to Catalina on your old Mac Mini, get a new Mac Mini with
Catalina and remote desktop into the old Mac Mini. Or have a Mac that is
running several virtual machines you can remote into (use memory ballooning to
share it well)
On 10/9/19 2:03 PM, Dar Scott Consulting via use-livecode wrote:
I just use macWrap32. Oh. Wait. There isn't one.
:) Write one for us.
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HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
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On 10/9/2019 12:29 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
It may be too late for you, but last week I got an email from the
company that makes my accounting software warning customers not to
upgrade to Catalina. They said they&#x
I just use macWrap32. Oh. Wait. There isn't one.
> On Oct 9, 2019, at 12:17 PM, kee nethery via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> I’m not so concerned with the latest version of Catalina as I am with some of
> the software I use ceasing to function. Want to make sure I either upd
I’m not so concerned with the latest version of Catalina as I am with some of
the software I use ceasing to function. Want to make sure I either update
everything to 64bit, find a replacement, or convert documents into a format
that will work with the 64bit apps that I do have.
Kee
> On Oc
I just got an email from Arturia a french based company that makes
software and nowadays hardware synthesizers too, warning customers not
to update to Catalina, until there is a hotfix. Many plugins producers
use in music DAW's are still 32-bits and will not work.
What a great move from
As far as I know, Catalina "exists" inside its "own protected space",
which means that it
is like that awful conversation you have with your embarrassing relative
who is banged
up in one of those American prisons we see in Movies with a thickened
plate-glass window
a
Not for me: as a person who is normally an early adopter, I'm breaking
my own rule and
keeping well clear of Catalina.
I have always been ambivalent about upgrading as the benefits have
almost always been balanced by downsides
[ https://www.downside.co.uk/ ]
and, as I still use a BBC
> Bob S. wrote:
> Can I just point out, to no one in particular on this list, that
> you don't HAVE TO UPGRADE TO CATALINA??? Apple did not cause your
> version of LC to become obsolete. YOU DID!
>
> Matthias R. wrote:
> Thanks Bot, i thought the same, but did not dar
On 10/9/2019 12:29 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
It may be too late for you, but last week I got an email from the
company that makes my accounting software warning customers not to
upgrade to Catalina. They said they've been working on the transition
for a year and thought t
On 10/9/2019 12:02 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:
It's a good point. If any commercial developers using LC (or ANY dev
environment) are going to have issues with Catalina, it might be a good idea to
mail blast them and warn them if your app is not going to be compatible, and
rs not to upgrade to
> Catalina. They said they've been working on the transition for a year and
> thought they'd finish in time but it didn't work out. They were quite
> up-front about it, said they were working hard and would let us know when it
> was ready.
>
>
It may be too late for you, but last week I got an email from the company
that makes my accounting software warning customers not to upgrade to
Catalina. They said they've been working on the transition for a year and
thought they'd finish in time but it didn't work out. They
It's a good point. If any commercial developers using LC (or ANY dev
environment) are going to have issues with Catalina, it might be a good idea to
mail blast them and warn them if your app is not going to be compatible, and
even provide a general time frame for when they will be.
Al
I just point out, to no one in particular on this list, that you don't
> HAVE TO UPGRADE TO CATALINA??? Apple did not cause your version of LC to
> become obsolete. YOU DID!
>
Thanks Bot, i thought the same, but did not dare to write it.
>> On Oct 8, 2019, at 18:52 , hh via use
40 bugs. If we did
it a year or two ago, how many more bugs would we have found that have
since been fixed!
That's what Catalina represents to us. I realize that many many Apple
customers will be delighted with Catalina and I am happy for them. I
just wish that Apple cared a bit more about
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