Re: Cannot build a standalone application

2012-10-11 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 7:31 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: > A small claim to fame of mine, I was the first person anywhere to be running > System 7 full time. I was using it all the >time from around Alpha 9. The System 7 team themselves were using it full time >from about Alpha 11. I think it was >a

Re: Cannot build a standalone application

2012-10-10 Thread Bob Sneidar
On Oct 10, 2012, at 5:58 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Dr. Hawkins wrote: >> And speaking from experience: the *alpha* release of system 7 was far >> more stable than things coming out of Redmond in the following decades > > I think you hit on a key point there. While Apple does provide some lea

Re: Cannot build a standalone application

2012-10-10 Thread Richard Gaskin
Dr. Hawkins wrote: And speaking from experience: the *alpha* release of system 7 was far more stable than things coming out of Redmond in the following decades I think you hit on a key point there. While Apple does provide some lead time for developers working with preview editions, in terms

Re: Cannot build a standalone application

2012-10-09 Thread Colin Holgate
A small claim to fame of mine, I was the first person anywhere to be running System 7 full time. I was using it all the time from around Alpha 9. The System 7 team themselves were using it full time from about Alpha 11. I think it was around 18 months from the times I was using it until it was a

Re: Cannot build a standalone application

2012-10-09 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: > Apple provides developers with preview releases of Mac OS X and >XCode. That's sufficient to make sure that RAD tools like LiveCode are >up-to-date the day that the next OSX or XCode is released. And speaking from experience: the *alpha*

Re: Cannot build a standalone application

2012-10-09 Thread Mark Schonewille
Jacque, I don't understand why you say you're sure that I don't believe.. etc... as I indeed never suggested anything like that. It is the same as saying that you're sure that I don't think that stone bricks float in water. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Softw

Re: Cannot build a standalone application

2012-10-09 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Jacque, As I wrote before, I wanted to express my worries and perhaps share them with others (not you), who might be interested in knowing what I think. I didn't expect an answer from RunRev. If you don't like how I express my thoughts, then don't respond. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille

Re: Cannot build a standalone application

2012-10-09 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 10/9/12 10:47 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: I didn't mean to contact support. I meant to express my worries publicly and no more than that. It's well known the RR team doesn't read this list regularly. I can't think of a reason to post concerns here that only they can answer. -- Jacqueline

Re: Cannot build a standalone application

2012-10-09 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 10/9/12 9:46 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Apple provides developers with preview releases of Mac OS X and XCode. That's sufficient to make sure that RAD tools like LiveCode are up-to-date the day that the next OSX or XCode is released. Naturally RR has been working on the next update as each

Re: Cannot build a standalone application

2012-10-09 Thread Sergio Schvarstein
I could find the answer to my last question here: http://forums.runrev.com/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=12949#p62166 And it works ! My last question: >From the situation description in the LiveCode Forum discussion, there is one >step I don't know how to make: - Copy over the 5.0 SDK file from xCode 4.

Re: Cannot build a standalone application

2012-10-09 Thread Sergio Schvarstein
Thanks for all your answers ! So, it seems that going back to Xcode 4.4 is the best way (… downloading it now) and then wait for the next LC release. >From the situation description in the LiveCode Forum discussion, there is one >step I don't know how to make: - Copy over the 5.0 SDK file from

Re: Cannot build a standalone application

2012-10-09 Thread Mark Schonewille
Richard, If RunRev chooses not to hire extra people to make Apple's preview period sufficient, so be it. It just means that I continue to be very cautious when considering to buy an upgrade or not. Any reasons *you* may come up with to explain why RunRev never seems to be ready when a new versi

Re: Cannot build a standalone application

2012-10-09 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Schonewille wrote: > Richard, > > Apple provides developers with preview releases of Mac OS X > and XCode. That's sufficient to make sure that RAD tools like > LiveCode are up-to-date the day that the next OSX or XCode is > released. I'm not in a position to know the details of the scope of

Re: Cannot build a standalone application

2012-10-09 Thread Mark Schonewille
Richard, Apple provides developers with preview releases of Mac OS X and XCode. That's sufficient to make sure that RAD tools like LiveCode are up-to-date the day that the next OSX or XCode is released. Anyway, the point is not to discuss with you whether something is possible or not. The poin

Re: Cannot build a standalone application

2012-10-09 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Schonewille wrote: > This worries me. I have a feeling that LiveCode never works with > state-of-the-art technology but that I'm always be using tools > that are obsolete already. When 5.6 or 6.0 appears, we'll have a > new version of XCode already as well as a new version of Android > and a

Re: Cannot build a standalone application

2012-10-09 Thread Guglielmo Braguglia
Hi Mark, developers have the 5.5.3 "release candidate" already from two weeks ... RunRev is working hard to implement the new official release ... ;-) Guglielmo On 09.10.2012 14:48, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi, This worries me. I have a feeling that LiveCode never works with state-of-the-ar

Re: Cannot build a standalone application

2012-10-09 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi, This worries me. I have a feeling that LiveCode never works with state-of-the-art technology but that I'm always be using tools that are obsolete already. When 5.6 or 6.0 appears, we'll have a new version of XCode already as well as a new version of Android and again we'll be using old tec

Re: Cannot build a standalone application

2012-10-09 Thread Guglielmo Braguglia
Hi Sergio, .../I've just made the whole Apple upgrades (iOS 6, last Mountain Lion, last Xcode, last LiveCode, etc.)/ ... this is your problem ... :-) The current official LiveCode release (5.5.2) is NOT compatible with Xcode 4.5 ... see this discussion on the forum : http://forums.runrev.com/

Cannot build a standalone application

2012-10-09 Thread Sergio Schvarstein
Hi, I am trying to create a standalone application and I get the message: There was an error while saving the standalone application. Performing iOS device builds requires the iOS 5.0 SDK platform to be installed. I've just made the whole Apple upgrades (iOS 6, last Mountain Lion, last Xcode, l