Re: Programming SubReddit

2013-02-10 Thread Peter Alcibiades
Another key advantage is granularity if thats the word. The languages that are easy to learn are ones you can do something useful in with little knowledge, and then learn how to do the next thing. LC is great like that. A very little knowledge lets you do rudimentary things which are fully fledg

Re: Programming SubReddit

2013-02-10 Thread Peter Alcibiades
It a question of what you're doing. The key edge that LC has is what Hypercard also had, its the speed with which you can pick up GUI creation. Any language can call bits of bash or other utilities, awk for instance. Well, I don't know about any. Any we would seriously consider There's nothing

Re: Programming SubReddit

2013-02-09 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/9/13 10:14 PM, Robert Sneidar wrote: ;-) Anyone with an account over there, feel free. On Feb 9, 2013, at 7:47 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 2/9/13 6:52 PM, Jim Little wrote: Perhaps other, more experience LiveCoders, might weigh in on the subreddit. http://www.reddit.com/r/prog

Re: Programming SubReddit

2013-02-09 Thread Roger Eller
I agree. Jacqueline said it best. Sent from my Pipo M2 On Feb 9, 2013 11:15 PM, "Robert Sneidar" wrote: > > > > ;-) > > > On Feb 9, 2013, at 7:47 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > > > On 2/9/13 6:52 PM, Jim Little wrote: > >> > >> > >> Perhaps other, more experience LiveCoders, might weigh in on the

Re: Programming Subreddit

2013-02-09 Thread Monte Goulding
On 10/02/2013, at 3:04 PM, Roger Eller wrote: > Lose? That is subjective. If you believe LC is not as powerful, even though > it can easily glue systems together to solve real problems, then yes, we've > already lost. I have used LC since it was metacard, and before that, > HyperCard. From my pe

Re: Programming SubReddit

2013-02-09 Thread Robert Sneidar
;-) On Feb 9, 2013, at 7:47 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 2/9/13 6:52 PM, Jim Little wrote: >> >> >> Perhaps other, more experience LiveCoders, might weigh in on the subreddit. >> >> http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1873yt/best_programming_language_livecode_to_go_open/ > > I

Re: Programming Subreddit

2013-02-09 Thread Roger Eller
Lose? That is subjective. If you believe LC is not as powerful, even though it can easily glue systems together to solve real problems, then yes, we've already lost. I have used LC since it was metacard, and before that, HyperCard. From my perspective, LC has saved me from needing python or C++, et

Re: Programming Subreddit

2013-02-09 Thread Monte Goulding
On 10/02/2013, at 2:46 PM, Roger Eller wrote: > My point was only to say that LC has access to shell, applescript, > vbscript, batch files, custom externals, and library stacks (although > currently fewer than other languages), BUT we do have that versatility, > which makes LC powerful. As you s

Re: Programming SubReddit

2013-02-09 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/9/13 6:52 PM, Jim Little wrote: Perhaps other, more experience LiveCoders, might weigh in on the subreddit. http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1873yt/best_programming_language_livecode_to_go_open/ I object to his list, which assumes RR has "invented" a new language, and to mo

Re: Programming Subreddit

2013-02-09 Thread Roger Eller
My point was only to say that LC has access to shell, applescript, vbscript, batch files, custom externals, and library stacks (although currently fewer than other languages), BUT we do have that versatility, which makes LC powerful. As you said, open-source will only increase our toolset. Sent fr

Re: Programming Subreddit

2013-02-09 Thread Monte Goulding
On 10/02/2013, at 2:16 PM, Roger Eller wrote: > He may be right about the dir tree search, or maybe we're just forgetting > that LC can shell out to bash or other languages (when necessary), then do > what it does "best", and manipulate the data efficiency, while presenting > it to the user in a

Re: Programming Subreddit

2013-02-09 Thread Roger Eller
He may be right about the dir tree search, or maybe we're just forgetting that LC can shell out to bash or other languages (when necessary), then do what it does "best", and manipulate the data efficiency, while presenting it to the user in a friendly UI on multiple platforms. Sent from my Pipo M2

Re: Programming Subreddit

2013-02-09 Thread Monte Goulding
On 10/02/2013, at 1:28 PM, Jim Little wrote: > Thanks for replying to this subreddit. I was getting in over my head, in > trying to reply. Well... he is right... iterating the directory tree in python can clearly be done in a less verbose and more readable fashion. Unfortunately people try a

Re: Programming Subreddit

2013-02-09 Thread Jim Little
gt; On Feb 9, 2013, at 5:51 PM, Jim Little wrote: > >> >> >> Perhaps other, more experienced LiveCoders, might weigh in on this >> programming subreddit. >> >> http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1873yt/best_programming_language_l

Re: Programming Subreddit

2013-02-09 Thread Peter Bogdanoff
Someone there is advocating Python. Can you make standalone apps for Win, MacOS, mobile in Python? Peter On Feb 9, 2013, at 5:51 PM, Jim Little wrote: > > > Perhaps other, more experienced LiveCoders, might weigh in on this > programming subreddit. > > http://www.reddit

Re: Programming Subreddit

2013-02-09 Thread Jim Little
Perhaps other, more experienced LiveCoders, might weigh in on this programming subreddit. http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1873yt/best_programming_language_livecode_to_go_open/ Thanks, Jim Little ___ use-livecode mailing list use

Re: Programming SubReddit

2013-02-09 Thread Jim Little
Perhaps other, more experience LiveCoders, might weigh in on the subreddit. http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1873yt/best_programming_language_livecode_to_go_open/ Thanks, Jim Little ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.r