Re: [iOS] Suspending and quitting

2012-03-05 Thread Bob Sneidar
I guess it depends on the app. A role player shootemup game for instance, would be poorly designed if a player could simply bail at the last possible moment and relaunch to avoid a bad score. Al accounting app however might want to have the user log in from the start for security reasons. Bob

Re: [iOS] Suspending and quitting

2012-03-03 Thread kdjanz
t apps deal with it differently. As long as their method is reasonably logical, I don't really mind as long as I don't lose data. My 2 cents Kelly -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/iOS-Suspending-and-quitting-tp4442267p4443021.html Sent from

Re: [iOS] Suspending and quitting

2012-03-03 Thread Kay C Lan
On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 1:17 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > Maybe others don't see it that way. That's part of what I'd like to know. > > If I was on your Settings card, and pressed the Home button so I could send and SMS (which is how I always get to Messages) when I return to your game I'd expect to

Re: [iOS] Suspending and quitting

2012-03-03 Thread Dar Scott
When I touch an app icon, the splash image expands and then the app shows the first card. I usually leave an app by the five finger pull. The image of the current card shrinks. This is similar to the shrink of pushing the home button. If I use the four-finger flip to the side to switch apps

Re: [iOS] Suspending and quitting

2012-03-03 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 3/3/12 6:42 PM, Matthias Rebbe wrote: Hi Jacque, couldn´t you add an user option in the settings of the app e.g. "always resume from where i left…". If the user checks this option, the app always resume to the last opened card. If not checked, the app starts with the first card. So the use

Re: [iOS] Suspending and quitting

2012-03-03 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 3/3/12 10:22 PM, Dar Scott wrote: I apologize. I was not clear. I was trying to suggest that one can design the app so that every launch is a virtual resume. That could work but in this case it isn't ideal. I'm thinking of my solitaire game. The main card is the gameboard. The other cards

Re: [iOS] Suspending and quitting

2012-03-03 Thread Kay C Lan
On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Gerry Orkin wrote: > > I've never seen an iOS app with a quit button. > > Same here. Nor have I seen any app that behaves differently depending on how you leave, only if you really Quit or not. Some apps (eReaders particularly) always return you to where you left

Re: [iOS] Suspending and quitting

2012-03-03 Thread Dar Scott
I apologize. I was not clear. I was trying to suggest that one can design the app so that every launch is a virtual resume. Dar On Mar 3, 2012, at 8:08 PM, Gerry Orkin wrote: > Dar Scott wrote: > >> I think you almost always "suspend" unless the user pushed a button on the >> app to "qu

Re: [iOS] Suspending and quitting

2012-03-03 Thread Gerry Orkin
Dar Scott wrote: > I think you almost always "suspend" unless the user pushed a button on the > app to "quit". I can't point to any guidelines. LC iOS apps don't suspend - they only quit. We might get the ability to suspend them in the future, but we don't have it right now. I've never seen

Re: [iOS] Suspending and quitting

2012-03-03 Thread Matthias Rebbe
Hi Jacque, couldn´t you add an user option in the settings of the app e.g. "always resume from where i left…". If the user checks this option, the app always resume to the last opened card. If not checked, the app starts with the first card. So the user might not be confused. Regards, Matthi

Re: [iOS] Suspending and quitting

2012-03-03 Thread Dar Scott
I'm still learning how things are supposed to be on iOS, so this is just a thought. I think you almost always "suspend" unless the user pushed a button on the app to "quit". I can't point to any guidelines. Maybe there is some clear function that can also bring the state of the app to the sam

Re: [iOS] Suspending and quitting

2012-03-03 Thread Gerry Orkin
Oh right, sorry...misunderstood. No, you can't tell the method by which the user has switched or quit from an app, as far as I've been able to tell. But it's probably not a big issue - I don't think the average user uses the "task list" method of switching to other apps. Gerry On 04/03/2012,

Re: [iOS] Suspending and quitting

2012-03-03 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 3/3/12 5:46 PM, Terry Judd wrote: I don't think you can. My apps use logins and session tokens so if the user 'restarts' the app while the session token is still valid I ask them whether they want to resume or start afresh. Thanks, I guess I'll keep it as it is. It just looks funny when the

Re: [iOS] Suspending and quitting

2012-03-03 Thread Terry Judd
On 04/03/2012, at 10:17 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 3/3/12 4:40 PM, Gerry Orkin wrote: I'm pretty sure you can't suppress the splash screen. Yes, sounds that way. As for the best place to run your code for saving the current state of the app...I use the shutdown message. I'm doing that too,

Re: [iOS] Suspending and quitting

2012-03-03 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 3/3/12 4:40 PM, Gerry Orkin wrote: I'm pretty sure you can't suppress the splash screen. Yes, sounds that way. As for the best place to run your code for saving the current state of the app...I use the shutdown message. I'm doing that too, but I need a way to know when to reload the sav

Re: [iOS] Suspending and quitting

2012-03-03 Thread Gerry Orkin
I'm pretty sure you can't suppress the splash screen. As for the best place to run your code for saving the current state of the app...I use the shutdown message. Gerry -- Sent from my iPhone. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runre

Re: [iOS] Suspending and quitting

2012-03-03 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 3/3/12 2:58 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: Recently, Jacque Landman Gay wrote: Also, if the app is "resuming" I don't want the splash screen to show, the app should just appear in the state the user left it. Is there a way to avoid the splash? Isn't this a case where you avoid the splash screen se

Re: [iOS] Suspending and quitting

2012-03-03 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Jacque Landman Gay wrote: > Also, if the app is "resuming" I don't want the splash screen to show, > the app should just appear in the state the user left it. Is there a way > to avoid the splash? Isn't this a case where you avoid the splash screen setting of the SB and show your own sp

[iOS] Suspending and quitting

2012-03-03 Thread J. Landman Gay
I have code in my iOS app that fakes a "suspend" so it can pick up where the user left off when they come back to the app. Now I'm trying to figure out when to use it. Is it logical to assume that if the user presses the Home button, they mean to quit? And if they push up the window to switch