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2017-07-25 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
e-livecode > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 19. Juli 2017 21:58 > An: How to use LiveCode > Cc: Colin Holgate > Betreff: Re: [OT]h.264 alternatives > > Are you sure that a license is needed for H.264 playback? That could > seriously impact the viability of YouTube or Vimeo, if all user

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2017-07-24 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode
: [OT]h.264 alternatives On 07/24/2017 02:54 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode wrote: > Last year I asked Sorenson media if I have to pay license fees, using the > h.264 codec and got the following answer from Sorenson: > "No, you do not need to pay any license fees to use any c

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2017-07-24 Thread Mark Talluto via use-livecode
On Jul 24, 2017, at 8:42 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: > > Tiemo Hollmann wrote: > > > Richard wrote: > >> Tiemo Hollmann wrote: > >> > I think the source of the problem that there is no standard codec > >> > for h.264 on windows is, that LiveCode uses the almost deprecated > >> >

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2017-07-24 Thread Warren Samples via use-livecode
On 07/24/2017 02:54 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode wrote: Last year I asked Sorenson media if I have to pay license fees, using the h.264 codec and got the following answer from Sorenson: "No, you do not need to pay any license fees to use any codecs included in Squeeze. Sorenson Media

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2017-07-24 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Tiemo Hollmann wrote: > Richard wrote: >> Tiemo Hollmann wrote: >> > I think the source of the problem that there is no standard codec >> > for h.264 on windows is, that LiveCode uses the almost deprecated >> > directShow API and not the current Microsoft media foundation API. >> > For MMF there

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2017-07-24 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode
rev.com Cc: Richard Gaskin Betreff: Re: AW: AW: AW: [OT]h.264 alternatives Tiemo Hollmann wrote: > I think the source of the problem that there is no standard codec for > h.264 on windows is, that LiveCode uses the almost deprecated > directShow API and not the current Microsoft media foundat

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2017-07-24 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Tiemo Hollmann wrote: > Last year I asked Sorenson media if I have to pay license fees, using > the h.264 codec and got the following answer from Sorenson: > "No, you do not need to pay any license fees to use any codecs > included in Squeeze. Sorenson Media pays any license fees necessary > for

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2017-07-24 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Tiemo Hollmann wrote: > I think the source of the problem that there is no standard codec for > h.264 on windows is, that LiveCode uses the almost deprecated > directShow API and not the current Microsoft media foundation API. For > MMF there probably is a standard codec for h.264 available on the

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2017-07-24 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Warren Samples via use-livecode Gesendet: Freitag, 21. Juli 2017 16:31 An: Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode Cc: Warren Samples Betreff: Re: AW: AW: [OT]h.264 alternatives On 07/21/2017 03:45 AM

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2017-07-24 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode
n TB via use-livecode Cc: Warren Samples Betreff: Re: AW: AW: [OT]h.264 alternatives On 07/21/2017 04:28 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode wrote: > ... and h.264 is not h.264, it depends on the codec being used! I am > also using h.264 videos on iOS and Android, but the fun stopped w

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2017-07-24 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode
ev.com] Im Auftrag von Colin Holgate via use-livecode Gesendet: Mittwoch, 19. Juli 2017 21:58 An: How to use LiveCode Cc: Colin Holgate Betreff: Re: [OT]h.264 alternatives Are you sure that a license is needed for H.264 playback? That could seriously impact the viability of YouTube or Vimeo, if

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2017-07-21 Thread Stephen Barncard via use-livecode
Yes, this is why most who need to stream video should not do it themselves. Let the big guys handle it and just imbed it in your thing. sqb On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 7:30 AM, Warren Samples via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 07/21/2017 03:45 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB via u

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2017-07-21 Thread Warren Samples via use-livecode
On 07/21/2017 04:28 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode wrote: ... and h.264 is not h.264, it depends on the codec being used! I am also using h.264 videos on iOS and Android, but the fun stopped with the first customers, who couldn't play my videos on some Android devices. Obviously my choice

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2017-07-21 Thread Warren Samples via use-livecode
On 07/21/2017 03:45 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode wrote: But I wonder, which codec youtube converts all videos into or other platforms are using so that their videos are almost always compatible with all platforms. There must be any cross-platform codec or the browser video players bring

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2017-07-21 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode
, 21. Juli 2017 10:46 An: 'How to use LiveCode' Cc: Tiemo Hollmann TB Betreff: AW: AW: [OT]h.264 alternatives Hi Richard, I also was looking for a cross-platform compatible codec a year ago and wondered why it was still so complicated. On the first sight I didn't found any cod

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2017-07-21 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode
askin Betreff: Re: AW: [OT]h.264 alternatives Tiemo Hollmann wrote: > Keep in mind, that h.264 is not natively supported by Windows 10 (and > not by 8 I think). You need to install a h.264 filte Thanks, Tiemo. That's a serious bummer. It's 2017. Is there really no single co

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2017-07-20 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Bob Sneidar wrote: >> On Jul 19, 2017, at 13:31 , Stephen Barncard wrote: >> >> Which means every network and independent film-maker is breaking the >> law... >> because I guarantee that they're not looking at the EULA when >> sending off their work for broadcast or theater.I see this every

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2017-07-20 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Tiemo Hollmann wrote: > Keep in mind, that h.264 is not natively supported by Windows 10 (and > not by 8 I think). You need to install a h.264 filte Thanks, Tiemo. That's a serious bummer. It's 2017. Is there really no single codec available for Mac, Windows, Linux, iOS, and Android which allo

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2017-07-20 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
At this point I think common law would kick in, since they have been allowing the practice for well over 7 years now. Bob S > On Jul 19, 2017, at 13:31 , Stephen Barncard via use-livecode > wrote: > > Which means every network and independent film-maker is breaking the law... > because I g

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2017-07-20 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode
Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Richard Gaskin via use-livecode Gesendet: Mittwoch, 19. Juli 2017 21:37 An: How to use LiveCode Cc: Richard Gaskin Betreff: [OT]h.264 alternatives Seems most folks use h.264 for encoding

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2017-07-19 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Simon Smith wrote: > I would stay with h.264 if possible - its popular and supported by > most platforms. Having to trouble shoot video issues on an ongoing > basis is not really fun. But yes - there is a licencing requirement > if its being used commercially - no idea how actively it is policed.

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2017-07-19 Thread Simon Smith via use-livecode
I would stay with h.264 if possible - its popular and supported by most platforms. Having to trouble shoot video issues on an ongoing basis is not really fun. But yes - there is a licencing requirement if its being used commercially - no idea how actively it is policed. Are the video's going to be

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2017-07-19 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Stephen Barncard wrote: > Which means every network and independent film-maker is breaking the > law... > because I guarantee that they're not looking at the EULA when > sending off their work for broadcast or theater.I see this every > day. > > Kinda like "don't ask don't tell" if you ask

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2017-07-19 Thread Stephen Barncard via use-livecode
Which means every network and independent film-maker is breaking the law... because I guarantee that they're not looking at the EULA when sending off their work for broadcast or theater.I see this every day. Kinda like "don't ask don't tell" if you ask me. And unenforceable. They'd have to

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2017-07-19 Thread Colin Holgate via use-livecode
The copyright for x264 is GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE, but I don’t know if that means you can encode video for sale. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription

Re: [OT]h.264 alternatives

2017-07-19 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Colin Holgate wrote: > Are you sure that a license is needed for H.264 playback? No, encoding. > My hope is that the license is just paid by the encoder tool maker. Would be nice, but not always so. E.g., Apple's Final Cut "Pro" (which only allows for non-pro use): 15. H.264/AVC Notice

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2017-07-19 Thread Stephen Barncard via use-livecode
Video codecs [edit ] - *x264 * – H.264/MPEG-4 AVC implementation. x264 is

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2017-07-19 Thread Stephen Barncard via use-livecode
from what I can tell Vorbis works with WebM but then you get into the browser problem. The proprietary browsers appear to not support the OSS media without extra stuff added by the user.. It's also hard to get a decent encoding software... you might have to roll your own. it's the 'all platforms

Re: [OT]h.264 alternatives

2017-07-19 Thread Colin Holgate via use-livecode
Are you sure that a license is needed for H.264 playback? That could seriously impact the viability of YouTube or Vimeo, if all users had to pay a license fee. My hope is that the license is just paid by the encoder tool maker. If you’re using Adobe Media Encoder you don’t have to pay a license,

[OT]h.264 alternatives

2017-07-19 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Seems most folks use h.264 for encoding video, but being patent-encumbered it requires negotiating a license with MPEGLA for commercial use. I have a batch of files I need to re-encode - what non-patent-encumbered codec could I use that will be supported on all platforms? -- Richard Gaskin