Re: [OT] fon.nu feature set is getting famous

2011-05-17 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 05/17/2011 09:39 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: True enough. But the redirect and proxy issues are more complex. Proxies for instance are commonly encrypted, which means by the time it gets to the firewall, it's garbldygook. You can't do deep packet inspection on an encrypted stream. So I think say

Re: [OT] fon.nu feature set is getting famous

2011-05-17 Thread Bob Sneidar
True enough. But the redirect and proxy issues are more complex. Proxies for instance are commonly encrypted, which means by the time it gets to the firewall, it's garbldygook. You can't do deep packet inspection on an encrypted stream. So I think saying that firewalls are not good enough is a b

Re: [OT] fon.nu feature set is getting famous

2011-05-17 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 05/17/2011 09:20 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Well it's kind of like web proxies. Many use them as a way to firewall off their site, or do load balancing with multiple servers. But they are also used to bypass content filters that are required by law in school environments. It's the old, "Fire, BA

Re: [OT] fon.nu feature set is getting famous

2011-05-17 Thread Bob Sneidar
Well it's kind of like web proxies. Many use them as a way to firewall off their site, or do load balancing with multiple servers. But they are also used to bypass content filters that are required by law in school environments. It's the old, "Fire, BAD! No wait, fire GOOD!" conundrum. If you tr

Re: [OT] fon.nu feature set is getting famous

2011-05-17 Thread Charles Phillips
Thanks for the clarification and the rationale. I dislike the behavior of people who do ill just because they can. On May 17, 2011, at 2:04 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: On 05/17/2011 08:25 PM, Charles Phillips wrote: Sicko Frankly if this plays "merry hell" with browsers and firewall s

Re: [OT] fon.nu feature set is getting famous

2011-05-17 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 05/17/2011 08:56 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Bob Sneidar wrote: > On May 17, 2011, at 2:34 AM, Matthias Rebbe wrote: > >>> This code is stored as a text file inside a data folder in >>> the server, the first line of that folder is >>> the long URL. When someone tries to access http://fon.nu/som

Re: [OT] fon.nu feature set is getting famous

2011-05-17 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 05/17/2011 08:25 PM, Charles Phillips wrote: Sicko Frankly if this plays "merry hell" with browsers and firewall software, that tells you that the browsers and firewall software aren't much good. All types of security need to be continually tested. If you are feeling "anti-Richmond" just d

Re: [OT] fon.nu feature set is getting famous

2011-05-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
Bob Sneidar wrote: > On May 17, 2011, at 2:34 AM, Matthias Rebbe wrote: > >>> This code is stored as a text file inside a data folder in >>> the server, the first line of that folder is >>> the long URL. When someone tries to access http://fon.nu/something >>> the irev file picks the something pa

Re: [OT] fon.nu feature set is getting famous

2011-05-17 Thread Charles Phillips
Sicko On May 17, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: On 05/17/2011 07:22 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: So's you know, this will wreak havoc with a lot of browsers and firewall software. Bob That's what makes it so appealing . . . :) ___ use-

Re: [OT] fon.nu feature set is getting famous

2011-05-17 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 05/17/2011 07:22 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: So's you know, this will wreak havoc with a lot of browsers and firewall software. Bob That's what makes it so appealing . . . :) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit

Re: [OT] fon.nu feature set is getting famous

2011-05-17 Thread Bob Sneidar
So's you know, this will wreak havoc with a lot of browsers and firewall software. Bob On May 17, 2011, at 2:34 AM, Matthias Rebbe wrote: >> This code is stored as a text >> file inside a data folder in the server, the first line of that folder is >> the long URL. When someone tries to access

Re: [OT] fon.nu feature set is getting famous

2011-05-17 Thread Matthias Rebbe
Andre, thank you very much for sharing this! ! ! Matthias Am 15.05.2011 um 22:58 schrieb Andre Garzia: > Matthias, > > Fon.nu works fairly easy. When we want to shorten a URL, we compute an md5 > of the url then we convert it to base 23 so that is becomes something like > A123FG and the short

Re: [OT] fon.nu feature set is getting famous

2011-05-15 Thread Phil Davis
Thanks for sharing the whole enchilada, Andre! I imagine a lot of people (like myself) learn best by studying examples and tinkering with them to suit our needs. Great job! Phil On 5/15/11 1:58 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: Matthias, Fon.nu works fairly easy. When we want to shorten a URL, we com

Re: [OT] fon.nu feature set is getting famous

2011-05-15 Thread Andre Garzia
Matthias, Fon.nu works fairly easy. When we want to shorten a URL, we compute an md5 of the url then we convert it to base 23 so that is becomes something like A123FG and the short url is something like http://fon.nu/A123FG, so for a given URL always generate the same small code. This code is stor

Re: [OT] fon.nu feature set is getting famous

2011-05-15 Thread stephen barncard
True, I could get very hurt if I ever decided to break away from gmail. I've been quite dependent on their filtering. Their filters are really good. When stuff is in the spam bucket, no images can show and the links are mitigated. Few false negatives or false positives. I used to use different ema

Re: [OT] fon.nu feature set is getting famous

2011-05-15 Thread Matthias Rebbe
Hi Andre, very very impressive. I have done something similar, but only for inhouse use. I created a desktop app, which creates for each "long url" a short url e.g http://m-r-d.de/x where x is a number. For each new short url the number increases. I then create a folder (with the name of

Re: [OT] fon.nu feature set is getting famous

2011-05-15 Thread Andre Garzia
Jim, Want to learn a trick that will cut spam a lot. NEVER NEVER NEVER allow a marketing email to load any image. Images are tagged with unique identifiers, so if you allow them to load, they basically ping back the server with a message: "Hey Master, do you know email id 2398562965 that went to J

Re: [OT] fon.nu feature set is getting famous

2011-05-14 Thread Jim Ault
Way to go, Andre. My feature request is a way of shortening spam to way less than 2 characters :-) On May 14, 2011, at 8:53 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: Hello Folks, During RunRevLive.11, more precisely at 4:00 AM in the morning, I created fon.nu, a minimalist url shortening service. I create

[OT] fon.nu feature set is getting famous

2011-05-14 Thread Andre Garzia
Hello Folks, During RunRevLive.11, more precisely at 4:00 AM in the morning, I created fon.nu, a minimalist url shortening service. I created that because at 9:00 AM on the same day, I was going to give a presentation on social networks and wanted the URLs on my slides to be short. So, fon.nu doma