Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-08-17 Thread Ben Rubinstein
Ah thanks Charles, I'd misunderstood - that's just what I needed. cheers, Ben On 17/08/2016 08:59, Charles Warwick wrote: Hi Ben, That's exactly what calling that dispatch command will do, if it is executed in the IDE before you build the standalone. If the tsNetLibURL stack is unloaded, tsN

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-08-17 Thread Charles Warwick
Hi Ben, That's exactly what calling that dispatch command will do, if it is executed in the IDE before you build the standalone. If the tsNetLibURL stack is unloaded, tsNet will not be included in any standalone builds that use libURL unless tsNet is selected specifically as an inclusion.

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-08-17 Thread Ben Rubinstein
Thanks Monte. Is there a way in the build process to include the libURL stack, but not include the tsNet external? Ben On 17/08/2016 00:54, Monte Goulding wrote: On 17 Aug 2016, at 7:08 AM, Ben Rubinstein wrote: Is there any way in dp3 to step back a bit further, and include libURL in a

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-08-16 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 17 Aug 2016, at 7:08 AM, Ben Rubinstein wrote: > Is there any way in dp3 to step back a bit further, and include libURL in a > standalone without including tsNet? At the moment (and perhaps this will be the long term recommendation rather than any preferences) for projects that don’t want

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-08-16 Thread Ben Rubinstein
On 30/07/2016 09:38, Monte Goulding wrote: At the moment we don’t have a facility for turning tsNet off in the event you want to use libURL (not really sure why you would want that but I guess it’s possible). You can turn tsNet off if you want to with `dispatch “revUnloadLibrary" to stack “tsN

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-08-08 Thread Kay C Lan
On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 2:14 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > I wonder if it's because I use BBEdit for editing. I hope not. I've only had a minor poke around LCB but I regularly use BBEdit to fix 'anomalies' with my scripts in LC and find it indispensable. ___

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-08-08 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 8/8/2016 6:40 AM, Trevor DeVore wrote: On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 2:41 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: During my brief forray, I discovered that the same simple LCB script threw the "format not supported" error if my formatting included tabs. Replacing tabs with spaces made it work again. I looked a

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-08-08 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 2:41 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > > During my brief forray, I discovered that the same simple LCB script threw > the "format not supported" error if my formatting included tabs. Replacing > tabs with spaces made it work again. I looked at your "round corners" > widget and it

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-08-06 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 8/6/2016 12:18 PM, Trevor DeVore wrote: Modules need to be recompiled for 8.1. During my brief forray, I discovered that the same simple LCB script threw the "format not supported" error if my formatting included tabs. Replacing tabs with spaces made it work again. I looked at your "round

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-08-06 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Saturday, August 6, 2016, pink wrote: > I started to use 8.1.0 DP-3 for the first time, and I noticed that all of > the > widgets that are not made by Livecode are flagged. (For example, I have all > of Trevor's installed) > > When using one, I get "Widget could not be created because there wa

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-08-06 Thread pink
I started to use 8.1.0 DP-3 for the first time, and I noticed that all of the widgets that are not made by Livecode are flagged. (For example, I have all of Trevor's installed) When using one, I get "Widget could not be created because there was an error while loading it. To resolve, please go to

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-08-02 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
Note recent update on the other thread BR: I hit the "no business license" wall on attempt to use "tsNetUploadFileSync" CHARLES: Ah, yes. Sorry, I have forgotten that detail and it was not mentioned in the DP3 release announcement. For Indy users, SFTP and SMTP(S) protocols do not support "file

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-08-02 Thread Peter Haworth
Hi Charles, Not a big deal but I'm wondering why the library stack for tsNet does not have a name that begins with "rev". There are a few other exceptions to that convention but I don't recall any recent IDE stack additions that weren't named that way. On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 3:51 AM Charles Warwi

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-08-02 Thread Charles Warwick
On 2/08/2016 5:25 am, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 8/1/2016 12:41 AM, Charles Warwick wrote: You can issue post/get/put asynchronous commands even to the same server with the Indy license using tsNet commands directly Remind me, is "get url" blocking? Yes :-) ___

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-08-02 Thread Charles Warwick
On 2/08/2016 4:10 am, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: @Charles: So, in effect, just to clarify my understanding… the *only* difference between the TSnet indy and business license is that the indy user has the added burden of coding explicit tsNet commands to get the same asynchronous behavi

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-08-01 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 8/1/2016 12:41 AM, Charles Warwick wrote: You can issue post/get/put asynchronous commands even to the same server with the Indy license using tsNet commands directly Remind me, is "get url" blocking? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-08-01 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
@Charles: So, in effect, just to clarify my understanding… the *only* difference between the TSnet indy and business license is that the indy user has the added burden of coding explicit tsNet commands to get the same asynchronous behavior that the business user can get with simple calls that

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-08-01 Thread Terry Judd
On 1/08/2016 3:51 pm, "use-livecode on behalf of J. Landman Gay" wrote: >On 8/1/2016 12:41 AM, Charles Warwick wrote: >> On 1/08/2016 3:16 pm, J. Landman Gay wrote: >>> On 7/31/2016 11:58 PM, Charles Warwick wrote: Within the Indy version of DP3, tsNet with libUrl is designed to replica

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-07-31 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 8/1/2016 12:41 AM, Charles Warwick wrote: On 1/08/2016 3:16 pm, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 7/31/2016 11:58 PM, Charles Warwick wrote: Within the Indy version of DP3, tsNet with libUrl is designed to replicate this behaviour. This restriction is removed within the Business edition and multiple

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-07-31 Thread Charles Warwick
On 1/08/2016 3:16 pm, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 7/31/2016 11:58 PM, Charles Warwick wrote: Within the Indy version of DP3, tsNet with libUrl is designed to replicate this behaviour. This restriction is removed within the Business edition and multiple handlers can make blocking requests (put url

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-07-31 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 7/31/2016 11:58 PM, Charles Warwick wrote: Within the Indy version of DP3, tsNet with libUrl is designed to replicate this behaviour. This restriction is removed within the Business edition and multiple handlers can make blocking requests (put url x into y, post x to url y, etc.. ) without wa

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-07-31 Thread Charles Warwick
On 1/08/2016 7:19 am, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: Charles, first… let me congratulate you for getting this into LiveCode As it turns out, I was experiencing the infamous silent network API blocking when there is a failed network call… I think there is an error reporting bug somewhere as

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-07-31 Thread Charles Warwick
On 1/08/2016 7:04 am, Matthias Rebbe wrote: Am 31.07.2016 um 05:37 schrieb Charles Warwick : Yes, FTPS is supported by the external, though you have to use the tsNet commands directly, rather than the standard libUrl calls. For explicit FTPS transfers, you can do something like this: local tE

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-07-31 Thread J. Landman Gay
On July 31, 2016 4:20:47 PM Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: Charles, first… let me congratulate you for getting this into LiveCode Amen! As it turns out, I was experiencing the infamous silent network API blocking when there is a failed network call… I think there is an error reporting

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-07-31 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
Charles, first… let me congratulate you for getting this into LiveCode As it turns out, I was experiencing the infamous silent network API blocking when there is a failed network call… I think there is an error reporting bug somewhere as I believe in earlier versions a script error would be tri

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-07-31 Thread Matthias Rebbe
> Am 31.07.2016 um 05:37 schrieb Charles Warwick > : > > Yes, FTPS is supported by the external, though you have to use the tsNet > commands directly, rather than the standard libUrl calls. > > For explicit FTPS transfers, you can do something like this: > > local tEmptyHeaderVar, tData, tRe

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-07-30 Thread Charles Warwick
On 31/07/2016 11:02 am, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: TS NET: > No, you don’t need to do anything unless you are explicitly selecting inclusions during the standalone build. Then if you don’t have the internet library (libURL) included you need to include it as an extra inclusion. tsNet is

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-07-30 Thread Charles Warwick
On 31/07/2016 12:01 am, Matthias Rebbe wrote: Charles, is FTP with TLS/SSL (AUTH TLS - Explicit) also supported by your external? Yes, FTPS is supported by the external, though you have to use the tsNet commands directly, rather than the standard libUrl calls. For explicit FTPS transfers, y

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-07-30 Thread Charles Warwick
On 31/07/2016 9:53 am, Alex Tweedly wrote: No, you don’t need to do anything unless you are explicitly selecting inclusions during the standalone build. Then if you don’t have the internet library (libURL) included you need to include it as an extra inclusion. tsNet is resolved as a dependency

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-07-30 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
TS NET: Awesome! thank you… my begging bowl was out for this for s long! Monte Goulding wrote: > Or do I need to do something to use it ? >>If so, what ? > No, you don’t need to do anything unless you are explicitly selecting inclusions during the standalone build. Then if yo

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-07-30 Thread Alex Tweedly
Thanks Monte - but more questions open up On 30/07/2016 09:38, Monte Goulding wrote: Or do I need to do something to use it ? If so, what ? No, you don’t need to do anything unless you are explicitly selecting inclusions during the standalone build. Then if you don’t have the internet

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-07-30 Thread Matthias Rebbe
Charles, is FTP with TLS/SSL (AUTH TLS - Explicit) also supported by your external? If so, could you add an example for that also, please? Regards, Matthias > Am 30.07.2016 um 12:13 schrieb Charles Warwick >: > > > To add to what Monte has said, the ts

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-07-30 Thread Kevin Miller
The new URL library is licensed with per-user costs so it can¹t go into OSS. There are libraries out there. The platform is open source. That means that you can add any one you choose free of charge. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ LiveCode: Every

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-07-30 Thread Roger Eller
> * SFTP, SMTP, and SMTPS support (synchronous in Indy, async in Business) > * SFTP key-based authentication (Business-only) Why handicap the performance for all but the high-rollers? What does the open-source version get; the old half-baked libUrl? Was there no open-source FTP libs out in the exp

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-07-30 Thread Charles Warwick
On 30/07/2016 6:38 pm, Monte Goulding wrote What is tsNet ? A curl external we have licensed from Tech Strategies Does it just happen ? Yes Or do I need to do something to use it ? If so, what ? No, you don’t need to do anything unless you are explicitly selecting inclusions during th

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-07-30 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 29 Jul 2016, at 10:53 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote: > > > > On 29/07/2016 17:14, panagiotis merakos wrote: >> Dear list members, >> We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0-dp-3, a >> development preview of LiveCode 8.1. > >> tsNet external >> -- >> LiveCode Indy an

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-07-29 Thread Alex Tweedly
On 29/07/2016 17:14, panagiotis merakos wrote: Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0-dp-3, a development preview of LiveCode 8.1. tsNet external -- LiveCode Indy and Business Editions now include the Tech Strategies tsNet external! * Faster t

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-07-29 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
Awesome update! Seeing so many of the bugs I reported recently fixed, is super encouraging… Thank you! On 7/29/16, 6:14 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of panagiotis merakos" wrote: We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0-dp-3, a development preview of LiveCode 8.1. _

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-07-29 Thread Richard Gaskin
panagiotis merakos wrote: > We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0-dp-3, a > development preview of LiveCode 8.1. Super-cool, thanks! Lots of nice new additions there. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the W

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-07-29 Thread Mike Kerner
yay! On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 12:14 PM, panagiotis merakos < panos.mera...@livecode.com> wrote: > Dear list members, > We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0-dp-3, a > development preview of LiveCode 8.1. > > Developer Preview Release > = > Warning: this i

[ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-07-29 Thread panagiotis merakos
Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0-dp-3, a development preview of LiveCode 8.1. Developer Preview Release = Warning: this is not a stable release. Please ensure that you back up your stacks before testing them. Getting the Release