Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

@Panos, Thanks for the tip, very useful. @Brian Loaded up the file you mention. Picked a handler near the bottom. Typed in: put 1 into item 1 of xData and it worked. Backspaced over the text so there is an empty line and typed it again. The bug appears as keystrokes are dropped. An image of

Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

Hi Brian, I am currently on a different machine tonight that does not have 8.2.0 DP-2 on it, but I will try what you suggest tomorrow morning when I am back on my regular "beast". I presume you mean the file named: revidelibrary.8.livecodescript that lives somewhere in the LiveCode folder. I d

Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

Hi Jacqueline, When I say a 7,000 line script, I should clarify that I am not referring to a single handler. Instead the 7,000 lines is comprised of the many handlers that are in a stack script. Each handler is likely to be less than 200 lines. There are a couple "monster" handlers that are almo

Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

Hi Monte, I am surprised that LiveCode does not have a single large project that can be loaded into the IDE for a spot control creation and script editing on a real machine platforms before releasing a DP. Editing text is a core feature of an IDE and leaving it to customers to discover find such

Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

Hi Monte, I do not expect full coverage of every scenario, but my setup and what I was doing is so far from the edge case that is is right in the middle. (OK, maybe 7000 lines is a lot, but it is not that far from the centre, as far as complex LiveCode applications go.) * Can I respectfully sugge

Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

@Jacqueline, > I meant say thank you for this last time, but got distracted. Tissues certainly help with the way I was feeling the other day. @Bob, DP? I understand the risks of using a DP. But when a release is made with an introduction that begins with: > We are pleased to announce the rele

Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

No worries, I always use TTF Courier New, so yes it is monospaced. Ugly? Maybe! But for me very readable, and installed almost everywhere. -- Scott McDonald http://thelivecodelab.com/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please v

Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

Monte, > Ok, great, I’m definitely reproducing it here Nice to know, I will leave it with you. Good luck! My 2 cents worth says that the nature of the 8.x series engine and the way the 8.x IDE is coded will make it a challenge. Since 8.1.6 Stable is already "laggy" on my high spec PC and not as

Re: LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

Hi Monte, >> move to about line 5000 > >Is ^ a critical part of the recipe? No. I just tested typing in the first handler in the same 7000 line stack script, which is at around only line 100, and keystrokes were dropped on the first line I typed. The IDE had been opened only moments before. This

LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 Dropping Keystrokes in IDE

I install 8.2.0 DP-1 with great excitement and anticipation. 10 minutes into using it I find it is regularly dropping keystrokes when working in the Script Editor. Close all other programs on the desktop, still happening. I use a wireless keyboard keyboard, so giving LiveCode the benefit of the

Re: $1,000 Bounty For LiveCode Bug 20240

> I transcoded Scott's video to m4v and uploaded it for those > who interested and coudn't see it. Thank you Warren. I use VLC for all my video playback needs. It generally handles anything thrown at it, so I wasn't aware that the encoding may not be compatible for everyone. -- Scott McDonald h

$1,000 Bounty For LiveCode Bug 20240

Hi,   Over at LiveCode Quality Control Centre (QCC) there is a Bug 20240 has been a problem for me lately.    I understand that a significant effort has been put into finding a fix over the past years, but without success. The problem behaviour has been reported before, my report is simply the late

Re: Bugs in 8.0.0 RC1 and trying to convince a colleague that LC is *not* flaky

Quoting Monte Goulding : > I've worked out a fix for this... Thanks Monte, you have made the solution seem so easy, but as someone who has never made the time to delve in the IDE source, I wouldn't have known where to start. Quoting RM : > Well, I'm not going to show anything like 8.0.0 to "Ste

Bugs in 8.0.0 RC1 and trying to convince a colleague that LC is *not* flaky

I know these are not show stoppers, but I suspect that bugs 15963 and 15964 will both be present in the final 8.0.0 build, whenever that may be. I understand that everyone has their favourite problem that needs fixing. And I understand that the LiveCode team has worked, and is working very hard, b

Re: The Feature Exchange Progress

Hi Roland, > Just visited your website, Scott. (Maybe time to rename > to "LiveCode Planet" ?). I was not even aware of your work. You may be right, but after the name change from Runtime Revolution to LiveCode, I decided that RunRevPlanet was as good a name as any, and is fu

The Feature Exchange Progress

I don't understand it. Earlier, LiveCode Ltd was encouraging me to lock in my Indy License at a special low price that would last forever. In other words LiveCode Ltd was actively encouraging me to reduce their annual revenue from me by around $200 USD. Not just for now, but forever! It was said,

Script Editor future (was Open Source Kickstarter Report Card)

Richmond said: > I would be most interested to see a > *coherent and numbered list* of > these "issues" rather than a chorus > of people saying how awful the > scriptEditor is. I put a numbered list of 10 issues (some with sub points) in the "Open Source Kickstarter Report Card" thread over

Re: Script Editor future (was Open Source Kickstarter Report Card)

Kay C Lan said: > take the smart route and build adequate > text handling into their products but allow > integration with the industry leaders. One of the promoted strengths of LiveCode is that it is "live coding". In other words I can make a change in my script and immediately see the effect

Script Editor future (was Open Source Kickstarter Report Card)

Kay C Lan said: > let's dream and say LiveCode allowed > you to use Geany as it's Script > Editior. This would be a bad thing > because? None of my comments are from the perspective that enabling LiveCode to use an external editor is a bad thing. More that for a cross platform IDE, written i

Re: Script Editor future (was Open Source Kickstarter Report Card)

Thierry Douez said: > If you are interested to this project, > do you have some knowledge or links about > adding a language, compilation tools,.. > to geany? No I don't know of any links and haven't done that sort of work before, so I am afraid I can't be much help. I will have a look arou

Re: Script Editor future (was Open Source Kickstarter Report Card)

Kay C Lan said: > which IDE/Text Editor do you use on Linux, > which one on Win and which one on OS X. For all three I use Geany. http://www.geany.org/ Same IDE on all platforms. Same features on all platforms, same keyboard shortcuts. I can jump from one machine/OS to another and simply keep

Re: Script Editor future (was Open Source Kickstarter Report Card)

Charles Warwick said: > I am happy to submit the changes to the > git repository if it is of any interest > to the LC team. Not the bookmarks I am hoping for, but a handler filter is definitely a great feature to have. Please do submit your work. Kay C Lan said: > I don't care if the LC Sc

Re: Script Editor future (was Open Source Kickstarter Report Card)

Mike Kerner said: > effort should instead be spent on a > BBEdit/TextWrangler plugin or some > method for leveraging someone else's > text editor. the problem with this approach is that you need to find a single editor that runs on Linux, OS X Windows. Without using a single editor/IDE on all

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

Richmond said: > Of course this is all about taste (meaning > it's all in the mouth) so it would seem best, > if an all-in-one IDE like the VB6 one is to > be introduced to have it as one of 2 options. Single vs multi window does not matter as long as the editor is up to scratch and I can vie

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

Richmond said: > I'd be interested to know where one can > find these "usability standards", and by > whom they are authorised to be 'standards' I know of no single website to visit that lists usability standards. When I think of such a concept, it is more about tools working in a way that I

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

Hello Peter, Any chance of some basic improvements like edit bookmarks, or find and replace in text selections, with better keyboard shortcuts before Intelligent Code Completion? Peter TB Brett said: > My *guess* is that we'll have something > basic out by the end of the year -- Scott McDonal

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

Richard said: > All the cool new greenfield stuff will > be just a playground for an aging > audience of a fixed size if newcomers are > disappointed with very basic > essentials. That's the thing, because I know how *awesome* LiveCode is, I have been willing to put up with the IDE as it sta

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

Peter said: > I have no doubt that these promises > were very genuine. Clearly, LiveCode > hasn’t been able to deliver them in > the time they expected. I never doubt the sincerity of LiveCode Ltd. and the team behind it. But when a major feature which would be a tangible improvement for *ev

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

I am using LiveCode 8.0 DP2 as my baseline, as I understand it to be the future and not the 7.0 series. And my comments are from a Windows perspective. Richard said: > What usability standards do you feel are > not well reflected in the current IDE, > and if Kevin made you IDE Czar tomorrow >

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

> Irrespective of things taking longer > that forecast (or desired) I understand that things take longer than expected, but when I read the Kickstarter Campaign it is clear that the new IDE is a core part of the next generation. It is not a stretch goal, and is repeatedly emphasised as a core pa

Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card

Thank you Richmond: > OH! Where is the unified IDE that was waved around > during the Kickstarter thing, and doesn't seem to > have come up on the 'Report Card'? During the Kickstarter Campaign it quite plainly says under the heading of, What is your money going toward? "We will introduce a new

LiveCode Super Site: New Links Page

Hi All, There is a new Links page at LiveCode Super Site. If you know of any links that fit in the categories, please let me know. http://livecodesupersite.com/links.html Cheers, -- Scott McDonald "Components, Controls, Tools and Resources for LiveCode" www.runrevplanet.com

[ANN] The LiveCode Lab

Hi, For those who aren't in either of the LiveCode groups on Facebook or don't visit the Forums, here is the announcement about "The LiveCode Lab". Are you interested in: * Starting an adventure in server-side coding today, without having to setup your own server. * Designing and creating web ap

Re: LiveCode Server used to make multi-player game

> Also, it won't let me make another > transaction even though I have 5000 left. You can now trade as often as you want. Cheers, -- Scott McDonald "Components, Controls, Tools and Resources for LiveCode" www.runrevplanet.com ___ use-livecode mailing

Re: LiveCode Server used to make multi-player game

Hi Skip, There is a 1% "brokerage fee" charged on all transactions. Which is why you can go backwards. The way the transactions work is that you can buy and sell all 5 stocks in a single transaction. The idea is to plan what you want to buy and sell and then enter the amounts and select the Buy

LiveCode Server used to make multi-player game

Hi, Converted a single player Stock Market game, that was published way back in 1978 in the classic book "BASIC Computer Games", into a Multi-Player game that runs on LiveCode Server and can be played in any web browser. http://thelivecodelab.com/original-demo/stock-trader-game/ If you want to j

Learning about server

Hi, I too love what can be done in LiveCode server. I have been busy working on a Web App development tool based around LiveCode Community Server for the past months. I hope to have the Beta up and running soon. It is called "The LiveCode Lab" and I will be sure to post an announcement about it

LiveCode Books

Simon, thanks for the purchase and positive comment. Dar, I guess it depends on what the company is doing. I may also do a more "serious" LiveCode eBook in the future, but I can't reveal the theme yet. Cheers, -- Scott McDonald "Components, Controls, Tools and Resources for LiveCode" www.runrevp

LiveCode Books

I don't suppose my modest LiveCode and Games eBook is going to be win over any corporations or other business types to LiveCode. But given the name of this thread, I can't resist mentioning it here. http://livecodegamedeveloper.com/book.html Scott. -- Scott McDonald "Components, Controls, Tools

Re: LC server experience return anyone ?

Hi jbv, I Know what you means about setting up from scratch on a VPS if you have a many sites to host and it was all done in a Control Panel. I still don't know how to set up multiple domains, cron jobs, smtp/pop on my VPS. Fortunately I could just ignore those issues for my purposes. These are sk

Re: LC server experience return anyone ?

Hi jbv, I used to host a LiveCode Server (with MySQL) based site on Thor in 2012. Two reasons caused me to switch to an Unmanaged VPS. * The increasing performance problems in the later half of 2012. * All my clients are here in Australia, and the round trip to servers in the USA meant too much

Re: medical dictionary and spell checker for Livecode

Hi Tom, I have half the answer, I sell a LiveCode Spell checker here: http://www.runrevplanet.com/ but it does not include a medical dictionary. Although if you can source a suitable list of words you could add them to the dictionary. - -- Scott McDonald "Components, Controls, Tools and R

Re: [ANN] LiveCode Super Site

Hi Scott, >One option you might consider is opening links in a separate >tab/window so visitors aren't totally removed from the site. Good idea, I will make that improvement. Regards, -- Scott McDonald RunRevPlanet "Components, Controls, Tools and Resources for LiveCode"

[ANN] LiveCode Super Site

the latest LiveCode topics are in one convenient place, for everyone. -- Scott McDonald RunRevPlanet "Components, Controls, Tools and Resources for LiveCode" www.runrevplanet.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Plea

[OT] Looking for Beta Testers

ter, but is for Windows only.) If you are interested in being a tester, please contact me off-list using the email address on this webpage: http://www.teacherspersonalmarkbook.com/support.html Which co-incidentally, is the website of the application that requires testing. -- Scott McDonal

[OT] Free 300 Windows Tips e-book

Hi, Came across this link: and thought some Windows users may find it useful. -- Scott McDonald RunRevPlanet.com "Components, Stacks, Tools and Resources for LiveCode" __

Re: Various newbie doubts about LiveCode

Hi Giuseppe, While it is not a database application, the Mac OS X version of the software at this site: http://www.teacherspersonalmarkbook.com/ is 100% LiveCode and was developed with a fraction of the code required for the Windows version (that was developed in Delphi). It is not be the