OT: Facebook -> Meta (Damaged Infinity!)

2021-10-28 Thread Rick Harrison via use-livecode
Facebook on Thursday announced that it will change its company name to Meta! It figures he would mess with the infinity symbol to try to make it his own! Oh well… Rick ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to

Re: Message Tracer/IDE Crash Recipes

2021-10-28 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
Craig: > My one entry into the "bug” poll was to complain > about random crashes of LC itself now and then. > Not likely to have that solved anytime soon. It could be! There is de-crashing LC progress, but it's slow. This year I reported a crash/hang pair, and that's fixed now. The problem is

For the record…

2021-10-28 Thread Quentin Long via use-livecode
In case anybody actually was curious to know how to type an infinity symbol: On a Mac, the keystroke is option-5. Also on the Mac, there's a cute thingie called "Keyboard Viewer" which does what it says on the label. KV displays your entire keyboard, *and* it shows you the complete set of charac

Re: Message Tracer

2021-10-28 Thread Craig Newman via use-livecode
Message Watcher? AHA. My one entry into the "bug” pollI was to complain about random crashes of LC itself now and then. Not likely to have that solved anytime soon. But I am tempted to categorizes as a bug a sorely missing feature of the message watcher: In the Forum "https://forums.livecode.

Re: Mudslinging and consequences - a change to our policy

2021-10-28 Thread Craig Newman via use-livecode
There are an infinite number of infinities, and many can be ordered in terms of their “size”. The problem is you need an infinite number of Alephs to talk about them all. The real question is can one talk about all those infinites in an Aleph null number of ticks? Craig > On Oct 28, 2021, at 1

RE: Android .idsig file

2021-10-28 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
Interesting... If I make an APK I get the expected apk and the additional .idsig But if I build an app bundle I get the expected .aab and an .apk as a bonus? Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use

Android .idsig file

2021-10-28 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
What's the purpose of the .idsig file when building an Android apk? I looked it up and it's related to app signing but I'm not sure whether I need that file for something later or not. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://ww

Re: Mudslinging and consequences - a change to our policy

2021-10-28 Thread doc hawk via use-livecode
On Oct 28, 2021, at 9:47 AM, Rick Harrison via use-livecode wrote: > > The following article will really get your thinking about infinity: I took my Set Theory from Halmos himself. At the time, I knew he must be a major figure, as there was an “with apologies to Halmos” in the introduction.

Re: Message Tracer

2021-10-28 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Yes, but the message watcher is way too verbose. I do not need every system message, only the ones called by my own code, and I need to at least be able to discern when procedures exit. My reason is that I have 15+ modules that all need to use the publish and subscribe method I am implementin

Re: Message Tracer

2021-10-28 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
Like LC's Message Watcher? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On October 28, 2021 11:28:34 AM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: Has anyone written something that will trace the flow of a command or procedure and create s

Re: Message Tracer

2021-10-28 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I suppose I could use the procedure that keeps track of the execution contexts to create a logging method. Anyone know what and where that procedure is? Bob S > On Oct 28, 2021, at 09:26 , Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > wrote: > > Has anyone written something that will trace the flow of a c

Re: Mudslinging and consequences - a change to our policy

2021-10-28 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
"As it turns out, the number of elements of this power set exceeds the number of elements in the set of natural numbers." They have betrayed themselves. The number of anything cannot exceed infinity. Otherwise they are playing a shell game with what they mean by infinity. Bob S > On Oct 28, 2

Re: Mudslinging and consequences - a change to our policy

2021-10-28 Thread Rick Harrison via use-livecode
Hi Bob and Martin, On a Mac the solution is to use the Option and 5 keys. The result is: ∞ All you really had to do was G∞gle it! I remember the math class discussions of a googol and a googolplex. Then I recalled that some infinite sets are bigger than others. The following article will real

Message Tracer

2021-10-28 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Has anyone written something that will trace the flow of a command or procedure and create some kind of rudimentary flow diagram? It can be text based something like: stack "Main Form" Openstack setSubscriptions s

Re: Mudslinging and consequences - a change to our policy

2021-10-28 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
I'm not at all surprised it took you forever to figure out infinity. I sent your solution to a friend. :) Brilliant. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On October 28, 2021 5:36:28 AM KOOB via use-livecode wrote: Hi Here

Re: Mudslinging and consequences - a change to our policy

2021-10-28 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I really do not have the time to contemplate infinity. Bob S > On Oct 28, 2021, at 07:03 , Jeff Reynolds via use-livecode > wrote: > > Sorry that stupid joke from like 40+ years ago goes thru my head every time I > write a repeat loop or contemplate infinity… > > Jeff

Re: LC Bug Survey Metasurvey - Ranking Criteria

2021-10-28 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
Heather: > If you would like to purchase an Escrow license from us, > please contact support That's useful to know - I will remember it, because a few clients do ask. Will direct any your way. Back to this thread ... I was unprepared for it this month, so it was a challenge to find, retest, a

Re: Mudslinging and consequences - a change to our policy

2021-10-28 Thread Jeff Reynolds via use-livecode
Excellent Martin! My new view on infinity. Reminds me of a joke the list may appreciate to clean off the mud. Lady is found dead in the shower and is surrounded by dozens of empty shampoo bottles. Two detectives show up and the first one says “well this is certainly a very odd case”. The second

Re: LC Bug Survey Metasurvey - Ranking Criteria

2021-10-28 Thread Heather Laine via use-livecode
Lagi, If you would like to purchase an Escrow license from us, please contact support, supp...@livecode.com . We do offer them, they are not cheap. This is not on topic for this thread. It is also a licensing question and not something the list can usefully comment

Re: LC Bug Survey Metasurvey - Ranking Criteria

2021-10-28 Thread Eraklis Pittas via use-livecode
I am going to throw a fly in the ointment here. We have to ASSUME the BEST but plan for the WORST. IF LC Ltd could not carry on for any reason - anybody here will know the details Is there an ESCROW for the Code, is there a Plan B - iis there some code where someone else will be able to setup a

Re: LC Bug Survey Metasurvey - Ranking Criteria

2021-10-28 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
Mike: > So if I murdered a keyboard, but was consoled with a smooth nigori, > the net was 0 and the bug demoted on my list. That was headed for the "just went from the feel of it" column, but on second thought: Effort/Frustration vs Compensation/Sympathy. :) Best wishes, Curry Kenworthy Cus

Re: LC Bug Survey Metasurvey - Ranking Criteria

2021-10-28 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
As you probably recall, back in The Day, we could bug vote. Sometimes I miss The Day. I considered the immeasurable harm I have done to keyboards, especially mechanical ones. I loved some of those keyboards. They gave their lives for some of those bugs. I also considered the number of bottles of sc

Re: Mudslinging and consequences - a change to our policy

2021-10-28 Thread Richmond via use-livecode
I fell off my chair laughing. What a lovely post. Richmond. On 28.10.21 13:34, KOOB via use-livecode wrote: Hi Here is what I do Rotate your keyboard 90 degrees Press the 8 key Rotate yours monitor 90 degrees Repeat It took me forever to figure that out. Martin Koob Sent from my iPad On

Re: Mudslinging and consequences - a change to our policy

2021-10-28 Thread Richmond via use-livecode
I very much doubt whether anyone round these parts has ever doubted the integrity of the people who work for LC Ltd. But that should not blind one in other respects. There have been consequences of the recent decision to drop support for an Open Source version of LiveCode: some seemingly positi

Re: Mudslinging and consequences - a change to our policy

2021-10-28 Thread KOOB via use-livecode
Hi Here is what I do Rotate your keyboard 90 degrees Press the 8 key Rotate yours monitor 90 degrees Repeat It took me forever to figure that out. Martin Koob Sent from my iPad > On Oct 27, 2021, at 8:10 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > wrote: > > I didn't know the keystroke for infinity

Re: [OT] M1 Mac Mini USB problems

2021-10-28 Thread Bernard Devlin via use-livecode
I use a USB KVM to switch keyboard, mouse, monitor between M1 Mac Mini and a PC (the KVM is powered by USB even though it comes with an optional separate power source). If there was a general defectiveness in the Mac's USB support, I'd expect it to appear in this kind of scenario (as I switch doze

Re: Mudslinging and consequences - a change to our policy

2021-10-28 Thread Bernard Devlin via use-livecode
Thank heavens this policy change has finally come. Baseless accusations can end up affecting perception. Surrounded by negative criticism one can actually blame LC for defects that exist in oneself. It has happened to me, where I've tracked down the defect in my own work just before I was going