Re: Livecode's CEF Builds

2018-09-10 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
All this sounds like maybe looking for a GPL-compatible codec may be easier. Tom, would WebM do what you need? https://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/googles-updated-webm-license https://www.webmproject.org -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop,

Re: Livecode's CEF Builds

2018-09-10 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2018-09-10 10:49, Lagi Pittas via use-livecode wrote: Mark - can you find fault in my logic? And if not then if it is put into LC it would have a setting for include/exclude as with the other libraries. There is not fault in your logic (for the most part) - it is indeed something we have d

Re: Livecode's CEF Builds

2018-09-10 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2018-09-11 05:03, Brian Milby via use-livecode wrote: Seems like the GPL issue is in LiveCode’s court. They can specifically allow linking to non-free libraries as a provision to the GPL license. http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#FSWithNFLibs http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPL

Re: Livecode's CEF Builds

2018-09-10 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2018-09-11 02:48, Tom Glod via use-livecode wrote: So I got a msg back and they are totally down with me shipping the codec as long as I pay the fees for the # of licenses I sell past 100,000 Correct me if I am wrong, can I not put the code of my application on github as GPL 3? and build my

Re: Livecode's CEF Builds

2018-09-10 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
Maybe I need to email Kevin and tell him more about the project, the problem and the lack of options. ... thanks for those links the plot thickens. On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 11:05 PM Brian Milby via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Seems like the GPL issue is in LiveCode’s

Re: Livecode's CEF Builds

2018-09-10 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
Seems like the GPL issue is in LiveCode’s court. They can specifically allow linking to non-free libraries as a provision to the GPL license. http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#FSWithNFLibs http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLIncompatibleLibs Thanks, Brian On Sep 10, 2018, 9:23 PM -

Re: Livecode's CEF Builds

2018-09-10 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
Thats what I am thinking too. I will do my best to find a legal perspective on this. didn't Runrev have to ship the first LC Community with something proprietery in it too? I remember seeing a note about it in the installer. or maybe i was hallucinating. Why do my standalones have to be G

Re: Livecode's CEF Builds

2018-09-10 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
There’s some questions here that need a lawyer to answer. To start with I think you need to ensure that building CEF with proprietary codecs enabled does not include anything that has a license that is incompatible with GPL 3. Otherwise you can’t distribute your standalone with the modified CE

Re: Livecode's CEF Builds

2018-09-10 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
So I got a msg back and they are totally down with me shipping the codec as long as I pay the fees for the # of licenses I sell past 100,000 Correct me if I am wrong, can I not put the code of my application on github as GPL 3? and build my standalones using LC with the modified CEF files ? If s

Re: 4WDevolution question

2018-09-10 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
On Sat, Sep 8, 2018 at 9:08 AM J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Just a tip for those not using devo: cmd-ctrl-shift-right click on any > stack displays a menu with many different options, one of which is to save > the stack regardless of the mode. It also a

Re: Project Browser - refresh button still not available

2018-09-10 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 3:38 PM Mark Wieder via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > Ha! The PB is a maintenance nightmare... you're looking at 12 mainstacks > plus a behavior stack or two, and some seemingly random stuff thrown in > for good measure... still haven't figured out

View manifest in compiled Android app

2018-09-10 Thread Andrew Bell via use-livecode
I just had a mobile app submission rejected from Google Play for "Violation of Device and Network Abuse policy" which is an extremely vague category of issues. Based on some StackOverflow research, it seems that a common fix to this is to ensure that the following line appears in your manif

hard-to-use software

2018-09-10 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
Disclaimer- I hate modal software. And yet... https://qz.com/1378298/forget-easy-to-use-design-choose-something-hard-instead/ ...food for thought. (be sure to click on the link about the 'endless jokes') -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-

Re: Livecode's CEF Builds

2018-09-10 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Lagi Pittas wrote: > I have read a few articles about this - and I think Livecode doesn't > have a problem with building it in - here is my take. Is the licensing compatible with GPLv3? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the W

Re: 3WDevolution question

2018-09-10 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 09/10/2018 08:12 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: All my apps do this, but typically, unless the developer has a bug up his butt about the old fullscreen method, if you hold the option key down while clicking the green maximize control, it should work like the old way. There is an opt

Re: iOS 12 compatibility

2018-09-10 Thread Colin Holgate via use-livecode
You could write that you have tested under iOS 12, maybe that would be ok? Saying that you had to do something proactive in order to support iOS 12 is indirectly reporting that Apple software had issues. > On Sep 10, 2018, at 11:37 AM, Randy Hengst via use-livecode > wrote: > > Hi Andrew, >

Re: iOS 12 compatibility

2018-09-10 Thread Randy Hengst via use-livecode
Hi Andrew, What version of LC and Xcode combination did you use for your build? be well, randy www.classroomFocusedSoftware.com > On Sep 10, 2018, at 10:30 AM, Andrew Bell via use-livecode > wrote: > > Thank you Livecode crew for patching Bug 21396 that required > acceleratedRendering to b

Re: iOS 12 compatibility

2018-09-10 Thread Andrew Bell via use-livecode
Thank you Livecode crew for patching Bug 21396 that required acceleratedRendering to be TRUE in order for an app to launch in iOS 12! Word of advice to developers as they submit their new builds to Apple (because if you don't, and you don't have acceleratedRendering enabled in your stack, y

Re: Being stupid for a change

2018-09-10 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Your wish is granted! IDEs are not people, and therefore have no expectations at all! ;-) Bob S > On Sep 8, 2018, at 11:49 , Tom Glod via use-livecode > wrote: > > perfect case for better error messages .. people get tired.. our > ide's should never expect perfect humans and try to b

Re: Datagrid deleteline vs deletelines issue

2018-09-10 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I've encountered that. I have considered replacing all my singular instances of deleteline with the plural deletelines and then always use the plural version. Problem solved. Bob S > On Sep 9, 2018, at 09:50 , hlowe via use-livecode > wrote: > > The Dictionary states that the command 'dele

Re: 3WDevolution question

2018-09-10 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
All my apps do this, but typically, unless the developer has a bug up his butt about the old fullscreen method, if you hold the option key down while clicking the green maximize control, it should work like the old way. There is an option in preferences too I think to switch back to the old way

Re: Slow LC 9 Performance - Test Stack, Video, QA Report

2018-09-10 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
That's the first thing I thought. Either everything is treated as a string until math is performed on it, or we have had a crude form of variable typing from the beginning and didn't know it. Bob S > On Sep 7, 2018, at 20:56 , Mark Wieder via use-livecode > wrote: > > I'm suspicious enough

Re: Livecode's CEF Builds

2018-09-10 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
I read that pricing info as wellwhich is why i am willing to enter into a contract with them. interesting. On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 4:49 AM Lagi Pittas via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I have read a few articles about this - and I think Livecode doesn't have > a pro

[ANN] This Week in LiveCode 145

2018-09-10 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Hi all, Read about new developments in LiveCode open source and the open source community in today's edition of the "This Week in LiveCode" newsletter! Read issue #145 here: https://goo.gl/WQPYZu This is a weekly newsletter about LiveCode, focussing on what's been going on in and around

Re: Livecode's CEF Builds

2018-09-10 Thread Lagi Pittas via use-livecode
I have read a few articles about this - and I think Livecode doesn't have a problem with building it in - here is my take. Foe under 100,000 uses/sales/installs (whatever) there is no charge. 100,000 to 250,000 is $25000 I assume Livecode has NOT sold more than 100,000 copies of Indy or Busin